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Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model?

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2020/09/01 17:46:21 (permalink)
Is it just the coolers, does one perform better than the other?
 

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/01 17:58:25 (permalink)
    FTW3 = better VRM (usually).

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/01 18:04:24 (permalink)
    Depends on the lineup, the 3090 XC3 looks like it isn’t as wide as the FTW3, so it would have to be a completely different PCB.
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/01 18:15:34 (permalink)
    FTW3 has a bigger cooler, more VRM/power, also has full ARGB LED.
     
    There are some other features on it as well such as fan header, dual BIOS.


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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/01 18:40:35 (permalink)
    The XC models typically are binned chips on founder's boards. FTW models are typically custom PCB's with binned chips and are wider than the XCs. The FTW should also be a tripple slot while the XC is dual and the XC Ultra is tripple.

    The FTW also has better power delivery and will tend to clock a little higher, or be more efficient, which ever is your preference.
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/01 22:33:28 (permalink)
    Were all the 2080ti FTW3 A-chips?

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/01 22:39:43 (permalink)
    Will the FTW be 3x 8 pin while the XC 2x 8 pin?


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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 11:38:35 (permalink)
    EVGA_JacobF
    FTW3 has a bigger cooler
    ...
     
    other features on it as well such as fan header.




    Is that a bigger shroud/fan setup, or a bigger heat sink? Thinking of deshrouding so that's why I ask. Same with the fan header - is that additional or are there no fan headers on XC3?
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 11:55:43 (permalink)
    Bigger heatsink and shroud. Fan header is an additional fan header that you can connect a fan to.


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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 12:07:07 (permalink)
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    Will the FTW be 3x 8 pin while the XC 2x 8 pin?


    It appears so. The FTW3 has 3x8pin from video and a EVGA Rep im the sticky said the XC only had 2.

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 13:45:50 (permalink)
    Will the evga power link fit the XC?
    and/or is a new version in the works for the 3x 8pin?
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 14:17:31 (permalink)
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    Will the evga power link fit the XC?
    and/or is a new version in the works for the 3x 8pin?


    I am pretty sure I seen in the sticky topic that Power Link is 3070 only.

    Edit : Expected to work with XC3
    post edited by Airikay - 2020/09/02 14:22:07

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 16:29:36 (permalink)
    I'm glad they make the XC3, the FTW is too wide for my Lian Li dynamic case

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 18:51:27 (permalink)
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    Will the evga power link fit the XC?
    and/or is a new version in the works for the 3x 8pin?


    I am pretty sure I seen in the sticky topic that Power Link is 3070 only.

    Edit : Expected to work with XC3

    The XC3 3070 only? or the XC3 3080 as well?

    I couldn't find that info in the sticky.
     
    Is the ICX3 technology only in the FTW versions?
    or is the XC3 excluded (it seems to be the previous gen symmetrical design)?
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 19:06:42 (permalink)
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    I'm glad they make the XC3, the FTW is too wide for my Lian Li dynamic case

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 19:10:57 (permalink)
    Do we know power limits on the 3080 XC3 and FTW3 yet? Guessing FTW3 is a bit higher?
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 19:12:15 (permalink)
    EVGA_JacobF
    FTW3 has a bigger cooler, more VRM/power, also has full ARGB LED.
     
    There are some other features on it as well such as fan header, dual BIOS.


    Nothing confirmed spec wise for EVGA's models, jacob noted the above though.
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 19:17:18 (permalink)
    I doubt that the 3x8-pin is needed, but I suppose EVGA had to put it on there otherwise people would believe that some other vendor's version of the card which had 3x8-pin was somehow better.

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 19:18:56 (permalink)
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    I doubt that the 3x8-pin is needed, but I suppose EVGA had to put it on there otherwise people would believe that some other vendor's version of the card which had 3x8-pin was somehow better.

    I wouldn't be so sure. Power was sometimes scarce on 20x0 with only 2 8pin.
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/02 19:30:30 (permalink)
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    Power was sometimes scarce on 20x0 with only 2 8pin.

    I don't think so. From what I see on xdevs, even an overvolted 2080ti KPE would do just fine with 2x8-pins.

    There's a good der8auer video about excessive video card power connectors and marketing.
    https://youtu.be/fRVSGFjKf4E

    Summary:
    He was using a 2x8-pin card for subzero extreme overclocking, and people gave him grief for not using a 3x8-pin card and said he was losing performance because of it. Spoiler: he wasn't losing performance because of it. When back on air cooling, he then cut half the wires to each 2x8-pin (went from 16 wires total to 6 wires total), and the card still worked fine, the voltage at the 2x8-pin plugs stayed in spec, and the wire temperature stayed within its rating. He proposes that the extra connector on 2080 Ti is for marketing.

    I propose that the extra connector on a 3090 non-KPE card is for marketing. But who knows. The good reviews will tell the story. I am just speculating at this point.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/09/02 20:24:23

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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2020/09/03 02:51:51 (permalink)
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    FTW3 has a bigger cooler, more VRM/power, also has full ARGB LED.
     
    There are some other features on it as well such as fan header, dual BIOS.


    Hey Jacob, bit of a dumb question, but would you happen to know if there is any ARGB on the XC3?
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2021/08/11 11:26:51 (permalink)
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    FTW3 has a bigger cooler, more VRM/power, also has full ARGB LED.
     
    There are some other features on it as well such as fan header, dual BIOS.


    Hey Jacob, bit of a dumb question, but would you happen to know if there is any ARGB on the XC3?

    Yes there is RGB on the side of the card
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    Re: Can anyone distinguish the differences between the FTW3 model and XC3 model? 2021/08/13 00:56:08 (permalink)
    I would like to know also
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