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Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ?

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2012/07/28 15:04:05 (permalink)
Anybody knows if the GTX690 can drive a 4K monitor, I mean supporting 4096x2160 resolution. Not that I will run out and buy one now, it cost as much as a car but when the price come down to the price of a motor bike I may try to get one.
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 15:05:29 (permalink)
    probably be limited by the 2gb vram
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 15:07:10 (permalink)
    Be better with three GTX680 4GB cards.

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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 15:15:33 (permalink)
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    probably be limited by the 2gb vram

    You are wrongly.
     
    Compare: 1280x800 (super low res!) vs 4096x2160
     
    1280 pixels * 800 pixels * 32 bits-per-pixel * 2 (double buffer standard for Direct3D) * 4 (anti-aliasing samples) = ~31 mb
    4096 pixels * 2160 pixels * 32 bits-per-pixel * 2 (double buffer standard for Direct3D) * 4 (anti-aliasing samples) = ~270 mb
     
    31mb to 270mb?  Sure, it's a big jump, but a card with 2gb of vram has nearly ten times as much memory as is needed for that.

    Let's not be silly, here.  Resolution is pretty close to irrelevant until you run *multiple* very-high-resolution monitors.
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    Be better with three GTX680 4GB cards.

     
    Well, sure, but what isn't


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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 15:44:42 (permalink)
    with a single display at that resolution i would go with a 4gb card tbh 1080p on many new dx11 games now use up about all of the 2gb of vram. So going with a 4gb card you cannot go wrong.
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 15:47:50 (permalink)
    Thanks for the informations, it is good to know what my card is capable of. Now I better start saving money for the 4K monitor. I am getting tired of staring at my Dell 2K monitor the whole day long.
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 16:07:21 (permalink)
    yeuong

    Thanks for the informations, it is good to know what my card is capable of. Now I better start saving money for the 4K monitor. I am getting tired of staring at my Dell 2K monitor the whole day long.

    someone correct me if im wrong but the 690 or any gtx cards cant support anything higher than 2560 x 1600 resolution, 7970 supports 4k resolution and i still think vram will bite you in the butt, thats more pixels that 3x 1920x1080 monitors.
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 16:47:01 (permalink)
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    yeuong

    Thanks for the informations, it is good to know what my card is capable of. Now I better start saving money for the 4K monitor. I am getting tired of staring at my Dell 2K monitor the whole day long.

    someone correct me if im wrong but the 690 or any gtx cards cant support anything higher than 2560 x 1600 resolution, 7970 supports 4k resolution and i still think vram will bite you in the butt, thats more pixels that 3x 1920x1080 monitors.

    That is true - before the OP gets too excited, keep in mind that the challenge, here, is not ram, which a few of the posters incorrectly argued.
     
    The problem is the interface.  Via the HDMI or DVI standards available on these cards, you are limited to 2560x1600 output.
     
    Again, nothing to do with the ram - that's just the highest any video card from nVidia can go right now.  (A small handful of AMD Radeon cards can output 4K via the DisplayPort, but that's it - DVI and HDMI do not support that resolution)


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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 17:00:46 (permalink)
    I don't believe the 690 (or SLi in general) can do 4k at 60hz, because the SLi link has a 400MHz pixel clock limit. Maybe 4k @ 24hz or 30hz. Single card keplers can max up to like 600Mhz-700Mhz pixel clock (although the beta drivers seem to have accidentally enforced a 400MHz pixel clock limit again). Nvidia has acknowledged this limit, so we're likely to see SLi 2.0 probably around geforce 8xx. (I doubt as soon as 7xx, since it takes a lot of research, development, and certification testing)
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 17:20:18 (permalink)
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    That is true - before the OP gets too excited, keep in mind that the challenge, here, is not ram, which a few of the posters incorrectly argued.

    The problem is the interface.  Via the HDMI or DVI standards available on these cards, you are limited to 2560x1600 output.



    +1. It wouldn't be an EVGA thread without someone saying the high frame buffer cards are the solution to the problem. Back here in reality, a single monitor set up is fine with 2GB. Most of the time, it's fine with the 1.5GB of the last gen 500 flagships. The examples where it exceeds are situational, and designed to be VRAM intensive eg 16XMSAA, AO, DOF etc, texture mods etc. With a monitor of the resolution you've indicated, I venture to say that its DPI doesn't necessitate any AA outside of epeen enhancing applications.  

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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 17:27:11 (permalink)
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    The problem is the interface.  Via the HDMI or DVI standards available on these cards, you are limited to 2560x1600 output.

     
    690 has DisplayPort, so it should be able to handle 4K resolution. But like I said a couple posts above, there's a SLi pixel clock limitation so it probably only partially supports 4K at 24hz or 30hz

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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 17:35:25 (permalink)
    Keep in mind the sheer power needed to drive games at 4K resolution - I downsized from 7680X1600 surround with 4 GTX 580 Classifieds because new games kept on needing more and more power to play at decent FPS.
     
    4K resolution won't be any different, and new games may not fully support that resolution for quite some time.
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 17:38:35 (permalink)
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    Anybody knows if the GTX690 can drive a 4K monitor, I mean supporting 4096x2160 resolution. Not that I will run out and buy one now, it cost as much as a car but when the price come down to the price of a motor bike I may try to get one.

     

    When I first read a review about Kepler a few months ago, the specs outlined for this card are:
     
    DVI: 2560x1600
    DisplayPort 1.2: 3840x2160
    HDMI 1.4a: 4096x2160 @ 24 Hz or 3840x2160 @ 24/25/30 Hz
     
    However, I am not sure if the higher resolutions (> 2560x1600) are implemented in existing NVIDIA drivers.
     
    I plan to do the upgrade as well down the road when the price comes down but I figure by the time the price is similar to existing 30" displays, we will be one or two generations down the road with NVIDIA.


     
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 19:20:18 (permalink)
    Hi Guys, thank you for your responses. I did some more digging on the Web and found out that indeed both the GTX 680-2GB version and the AMD HD 7970 can drive the EIZO FDH3601 4K monitor even though there are some driver support issues. They test them in video files, Photoshop files and game(Battlefield 3). HD 7970 is slightly better but the difference is small. They also think that 2GB of RAM is not quite enough and suggest 2 cards in crossfire would be better. Since the GTX690 is 2 GTX680 in SLI so it should be more than ok. If you are interest in reading it you can find it in brightsideofnews.com(4K Graphics Card Shootout), sorry, no link allowed in this forum.
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 19:21:50 (permalink)

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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 20:15:01 (permalink)
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    Hi Guys, thank you for your responses. I did some more digging on the Web and found out that indeed both the GTX 680-2GB version and the AMD HD 7970 can drive the EIZO FDH3601 4K monitor even though there are some driver support issues. They test them in video files, Photoshop files and game(Battlefield 3). HD 7970 is slightly better but the difference is small. They also think that 2GB of RAM is not quite enough and suggest 2 cards in crossfire would be better. Since the GTX690 is 2 GTX680 in SLI so it should be more than ok. If you are interest in reading it you can find it in brightsideofnews.com(4K Graphics Card Shootout), sorry, no link allowed in this forum.
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    Hate to break it to you, but if 2gb of vram was dubbed "not enough," SLI'd cards won't be doubling your vram...
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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2012/07/28 21:07:21 (permalink)
    That review in regards to VRAM fails to account for the fact that GPU's will cache more memory than they actually need to render a scene, if it's available. But all things considered, I'd agree 2GB is cutting it close.

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    Re:Can a single GTX690 drive a 4k monitor ? 2013/07/11 21:00:48 (permalink)
    pc perspective says the gtx 690 is the single best card for 4k
    http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-High-End-GPUs-Benchmarked-4K-Resolutions 


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