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2020/11/02 04:44:17 (permalink)
I've seen some people with failures have used aftermarket cables. Can an EVGA person chime in on their take on this and if aftermarket cables should be fine as long as they match the psu pinout?
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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 04:50:40 (permalink)
    The use of aftermarket cables should be avoided would be the official response as I believe that it voids the warranty regardless of brand. Of course EVGA does offer individually sleeved cables on the website that would be allowed under the warranty. 

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 04:55:04 (permalink)
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    The use of aftermarket cables should be avoided would be the official response as I believe that it voids the warranty regardless of brand. Of course EVGA does offer individually sleeved cables on the website that would be allowed under the warranty. 


    Right, but I'm not asking about warranty just their thoughts unofficially if the cables are up to spec and pinned right if they can cause problems still. I can test the cables to make sure they match my psu official cables.
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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 05:24:26 (permalink)
    I really hope Cable Mod cables aren't a problem. They are expensive and I'd like to keep using them. I've used mine with the 2080Ti without an issue. I doubt EVGA will give a response though since they aren't "official" from them. In my opinion they are better cables then the EVGA ones and that's why I bought them.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 05:46:31 (permalink)
    Just my 2 cents but back when I installed my EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra in my system with a Seasonic Prime Titanium 750 watt SSR-750TD using CableMod cables including PCI-E cables I experienced numerous system shut downs until I decided to change out the 2 PCI-E cables with the original Seasonic cables. This may have been an isolated instance but I won't take a chance again. I also had an issue with the CableMod SATA cable that was included in the set. It never did work.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 05:54:27 (permalink)
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    Just my 2 cents but back when I installed my EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra in my system with a Seasonic Prime Titanium 750 watt SSR-750TD using CableMod cables including PCI-E cables I experienced numerous system shut downs until I decided to change out the 2 PCI-E cables with the original Seasonic cables. This may have been an isolated instance but I won't take a chance again. I also had an issue with the CableMod SATA cable that was included in the set. It never did work.


    Hmm thanks for the info. I'll probably buy the corsair cable kit for my psu then. At least those are official. I have a rm1000x btw.
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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 06:22:25 (permalink)
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    Just my 2 cents but back when I installed my EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra in my system with a Seasonic Prime Titanium 750 watt SSR-750TD using CableMod cables including PCI-E cables I experienced numerous system shut downs until I decided to change out the 2 PCI-E cables with the original Seasonic cables. This may have been an isolated instance but I won't take a chance again. I also had an issue with the CableMod SATA cable that was included in the set. It never did work.


    Hmm thanks for the info. I'll probably buy the corsair cable kit for my psu then. At least those are official. I have a rm1000x btw.



     
    That's what I have been using with mine, the Corsair Pro kit. They are the same as the OEM cables and are Official Corsair cables with the exact same specs, made by the same company as the cables that come in the box with the PSU.
     
     
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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 09:37:04 (permalink)
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    Just my 2 cents but back when I installed my EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra in my system with a Seasonic Prime Titanium 750 watt SSR-750TD using CableMod cables including PCI-E cables I experienced numerous system shut downs until I decided to change out the 2 PCI-E cables with the original Seasonic cables. This may have been an isolated instance but I won't take a chance again. I also had an issue with the CableMod SATA cable that was included in the set. It never did work.


    Hmm thanks for the info. I'll probably buy the corsair cable kit for my psu then. At least those are official. I have a rm1000x btw.



     
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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 09:59:50 (permalink)
    Where are these reports of custom cables causing failures? I haven't seen many or any on reddit. 
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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 10:02:36 (permalink)
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    Where are these reports of custom cables causing failures? I haven't seen many or any on reddit. 




     
    I have seen issues over time when people buy cheap cables or extensions.
     
    Also a few with the Cable Mod cables failing too.
     
     

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 10:05:06 (permalink)
     
     
    So what sleeves cables are recommended?  What will work from the EVGA store or from EVGA in general?  I might be interested in replacing all my cable extensions for PCIE and MB.. but I want the same color for all.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 10:07:08 (permalink)
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    So what sleeves cables are recommended?  What will work from the EVGA store or from EVGA in general?  I might be interested in replacing all my cable extensions for PCIE and MB.. but I want the same color for all.




     
    What was said was if you have a EVGA PSU and get the EVGA branded Custom cables they should be fine.
     
    They do sell them on the site.
     
    Extensions are not a good idea however, doubles the points of failure.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 10:20:28 (permalink)
     
     
    So say.. I have a 1200 watt PSU from phanteks ... should I buy these:
     
    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-CU-1300-B9
     
    or go to the Phantek site?
     
    Do we need to replace our PSU with an EVGA PSU?

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 10:21:51 (permalink)
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    So say.. I have a 1200 watt PSU from phanteks ... should I buy these:
     
    https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-CU-1300-B9
     
    or go to the Phantek site?
     
    Do we need to replace our PSU with an EVGA PSU?




     
    The cables have to match and be made for the PSU.
     
    They are not interchangeable. 

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 10:41:12 (permalink)
     
     
    Ok.. So let me get this right.  
     
    1.  We can't use Cable Extensions with the EVGA 3080 or 90.  They might damage the GPU and void the warranty.
    2.  You need to use PCI cables matched for your PSU, that means the crap that was packed with the PSU.
     
    Well, this is disappointing.  Its going to be a major rebuild now, re-wiring, hoping I don't destroy something accidently.  Also.. sort of annoyed I need to spend like $600 on a PSU again.  My current PSU is doing fine.. and I am using cable extensions from Asiahorse.  They work fine with my 2080 Super..
     
    Honestly I am at the point where maybe I just wait for AMD's GPUs.. I bet they won't be as problematic with cables and PSUs.. 
     
    Sorry.. This was the straw that broke the camels back for me..

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 10:44:45 (permalink)
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    Ok.. So let me get this right.  
     
    1.  We can't use Cable Extensions with the EVGA 3080 or 90.  They might damage the GPU and void the warranty.
    2.  You need to use PCI cables matched for your PSU, that means the crap that was packed with the PSU.
     
    Well, this is disappointing.  Its going to be a major rebuild now, re-wiring, hoping I don't destroy something accidently.  Also.. sort of annoyed I need to spend like $600 on a PSU again.  My current PSU is doing fine.. and I am using cable extensions from Asiahorse.  They work fine with my 2080 Super..
     
    Honestly I am at the point where maybe I just wait for AMD's GPUs.. I bet they won't be as problematic with cables and PSUs.. 
     
    Sorry.. This was the straw that broke the camels back for me..




     
    The cables that come with the PSU are not crap.
     
    Unless the PSU is cheap garbage in the 1st place so then it's all crap.
     
    The reason I am using the sleeved cables I am, using as they are from Corsair and they are Type 4 Cables that exactly match the cables that came with my AXI 1600. They are the exact same specs made by the same company that makes the ones that come in the box. Same pins, same connectors etc, exactly the same. And I confirmed it with Corsair.
     
     
    post edited by jankerson - 2020/11/02 10:56:15

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 10:59:47 (permalink)
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    Ok.. So let me get this right.  
     
    1.  We can't use Cable Extensions with the EVGA 3080 or 90.  They might damage the GPU and void the warranty.
    2.  You need to use PCI cables matched for your PSU, that means the crap that was packed with the PSU.
     
    Well, this is disappointing.  Its going to be a major rebuild now, re-wiring, hoping I don't destroy something accidently.  Also.. sort of annoyed I need to spend like $600 on a PSU again.  My current PSU is doing fine.. and I am using cable extensions from Asiahorse.  They work fine with my 2080 Super..
     
    Honestly I am at the point where maybe I just wait for AMD's GPUs.. I bet they won't be as problematic with cables and PSUs.. 
     
    Sorry.. This was the straw that broke the camels back for me..


    1) You can't use cable extensions for ANY PSU without potentially voiding the warranty if damage does occur.  
    2) I agree with jankerson.  If the cables that comes with the PSU is crap, then the entire PSU is crap.  Every PSU has a certain pinout from the PSU itself, so you definitely can't mix and match.  
     
    You can definitely keep using extensions, but you just never know if/when they'll go bad.  Obviously if the PSU/GPU goes bad and it's the extensions causing it, no PSU manufacturer will cover it under warranty as they aren't Original (this is of course if the manufacturer doesn't make their own; not entirely sure if any does beyond a full sleeved cable set). 
    Getting an AMD GPU won't change the fact the PSU nuances are universal.  

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:02:52 (permalink)
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    Ok.. So let me get this right.  
     
    1.  We can't use Cable Extensions with the EVGA 3080 or 90.  They might damage the GPU and void the warranty.
    2.  You need to use PCI cables matched for your PSU, that means the crap that was packed with the PSU.
     
    Well, this is disappointing.  Its going to be a major rebuild now, re-wiring, hoping I don't destroy something accidently.  Also.. sort of annoyed I need to spend like $600 on a PSU again.  My current PSU is doing fine.. and I am using cable extensions from Asiahorse.  They work fine with my 2080 Super..
     
    Honestly I am at the point where maybe I just wait for AMD's GPUs.. I bet they won't be as problematic with cables and PSUs.. 
     
    Sorry.. This was the straw that broke the camels back for me..




    To your point 1, there is no repeatable proof this is happening. I have been a part of the nvidia sub-reddit and this is honestly the first time I'm hearing about this. 
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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:04:18 (permalink)
     
     
    I use a 1200 watt Phanteks Revolt Plat PSU and ASIAhourse extensions. The case I use is massive.. tons of airflow.. however longer cables are a must.
     
    So I have a choice to make:  
     
    1.  Spend like $600 bucks on an EVGA PSU with new cables and rewire and pray I don't end up damaging something..
    2.  I found recommended cable replacements that are compatible with my PSU from Cablemod, no extensions.. I would replace my cables and still need to rewire but no need to swap out the PSU.. cost $99.
     
    Recommendations??

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:12:26 (permalink)
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    I use a 1200 watt Phanteks Revolt Plat PSU and ASIAhourse extensions. The case I use is massive.. tons of airflow.. however longer cables are a must.
     
    So I have a choice to make:  
     
    1.  Spend like $600 bucks on an EVGA PSU with new cables and rewire and pray I don't end up damaging something..
    2.  I found recommended cable replacements that are compatible with my PSU from Cablemod, no extensions.. I would replace my cables and still need to rewire but no need to swap out the PSU.. cost $99.
     
    Recommendations??




     
    The choice is yours in the end.
     
    However if something goes wrong be aware of what has been said by EVGA.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:13:33 (permalink)
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    I use a 1200 watt Phanteks Revolt Plat PSU and ASIAhourse extensions. The case I use is massive.. tons of airflow.. however longer cables are a must.
     
    So I have a choice to make:  
     
    1.  Spend like $600 bucks on an EVGA PSU with new cables and rewire and pray I don't end up damaging something..
    2.  I found recommended cable replacements that are compatible with my PSU from Cablemod, no extensions.. I would replace my cables and still need to rewire but no need to swap out the PSU.. cost $99.
     
    Recommendations??


    I just looked at Phantek's website.  They sell extensions themselves.  If you don't care how they look, how about that route?  

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:17:05 (permalink)
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    I use a 1200 watt Phanteks Revolt Plat PSU and ASIAhourse extensions. The case I use is massive.. tons of airflow.. however longer cables are a must.
     
    So I have a choice to make:  
     
    1.  Spend like $600 bucks on an EVGA PSU with new cables and rewire and pray I don't end up damaging something..
    2.  I found recommended cable replacements that are compatible with my PSU from Cablemod, no extensions.. I would replace my cables and still need to rewire but no need to swap out the PSU.. cost $99.
     
    Recommendations??


    I just looked at Phantek's website.  They sell extensions themselves.  If you don't care how they look, how about that route?  




     
    I think the big question would be are they going to warranty them of something goes wrong?
     
    May want to double check that.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:18:17 (permalink)
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    flg2010
     
     
    I use a 1200 watt Phanteks Revolt Plat PSU and ASIAhourse extensions. The case I use is massive.. tons of airflow.. however longer cables are a must.
     
    So I have a choice to make:  
     
    1.  Spend like $600 bucks on an EVGA PSU with new cables and rewire and pray I don't end up damaging something..
    2.  I found recommended cable replacements that are compatible with my PSU from Cablemod, no extensions.. I would replace my cables and still need to rewire but no need to swap out the PSU.. cost $99.
     
    Recommendations??


    I just looked at Phantek's website.  They sell extensions themselves.  If you don't care how they look, how about that route?  




     
    Honestly.. I saw those.. would love to use them.. however I thought extensions were not supported.. especially on these new cards.  if its "as long as its from the manufacturer of your PSU" then great.. I can understand that and off to buy those extensions I go.  If this is a case where I have just two choices:
     
    1.  Use the cables, no extensions, that came with your PSU thats in the rig now.
    2.  Buy a new PSU with long enough cables alliable from the PSU maker
     
    then I guess its going to be option 2.. .. I might even try to get an EVGA PSU.. however at that point its a rebuild IMO.. so I might as well just tear down the fans.. and everything and spend the time doing it better.
     
     

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:20:40 (permalink)
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    I've seen some people with failures have used aftermarket cables. Can an EVGA person chime in on their take on this and if aftermarket cables should be fine as long as they match the psu pinout?





    And this is the question ... so are we saying extension s from a manufacturer are ok?  example:  PSU Manufacturer extension to the PSU manufacturers cables
     
    Many of us don't care bout color.. just need them to reach lol...

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:23:14 (permalink)
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    I've seen some people with failures have used aftermarket cables. Can an EVGA person chime in on their take on this and if aftermarket cables should be fine as long as they match the psu pinout?





    And this is the question ... so are we saying extension s from a manufacturer are ok?  example:  PSU Manufacturer extension to the PSU manufacturers cables
     
    Many of us don't care bout color.. just need them to reach lol...




     
    Have to ask EVGA about that one.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:42:39 (permalink)
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    I've seen some people with failures have used aftermarket cables. Can an EVGA person chime in on their take on this and if aftermarket cables should be fine as long as they match the psu pinout?



    I actually had a set cause pure havoc on my system. 
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    This cause my GPU to dump or not even power up. also Caused the system to become unstable as well.
     
     
    I went back to my original Sliverstone braided cable extensions and all went back to working nominal again.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 11:47:11 (permalink)
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    riku98523
    I've seen some people with failures have used aftermarket cables. Can an EVGA person chime in on their take on this and if aftermarket cables should be fine as long as they match the psu pinout?



    I actually had a set cause pure havoc on my system. 
    mod/smart Kobra Cable MAX 8pin 12Volt EPS Power Extension – Black – 16in. KMX-MB8-16X-BK-D  and mod/smart Kobra Cable MAX 24pin MB Extension – Black – 16in. KMX-MB24-16X-BK-D 
     
    This cause my GPU to dump or not even power up. also Caused the system to become unstable as well.
     
     
    I went back to my original Sliverstone braided cable extensions and all went back to working nominal again.




     
    I am using extensions from AsiaHorse .. no issues for like 7 months since I built my system.  However after reading this thread I reached out to my PSU maker.. they have extensions but the reviews on theirs are horrible.  I need extensions for wire management.

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 13:05:22 (permalink)
    jankerson
    flg2010
     
     
    I use a 1200 watt Phanteks Revolt Plat PSU and ASIAhourse extensions. The case I use is massive.. tons of airflow.. however longer cables are a must.
     
    So I have a choice to make:  
     
    1.  Spend like $600 bucks on an EVGA PSU with new cables and rewire and pray I don't end up damaging something..
    2.  I found recommended cable replacements that are compatible with my PSU from Cablemod, no extensions.. I would replace my cables and still need to rewire but no need to swap out the PSU.. cost $99.
     
    Recommendations??




     
    The choice is yours in the end.
     
    However if something goes wrong be aware of what has been said by EVGA.




    Jebus Christ, okay you guys have freaked me out enough to just buy the corsair sleeved cables and return these Linkup cables I just go. 
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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 13:05:43 (permalink)
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    dustingg
    riku98523
    I've seen some people with failures have used aftermarket cables. Can an EVGA person chime in on their take on this and if aftermarket cables should be fine as long as they match the psu pinout?



    I actually had a set cause pure havoc on my system. 
    mod/smart Kobra Cable MAX 8pin 12Volt EPS Power Extension – Black – 16in. KMX-MB8-16X-BK-D  and mod/smart Kobra Cable MAX 24pin MB Extension – Black – 16in. KMX-MB24-16X-BK-D 
     
    This cause my GPU to dump or not even power up. also Caused the system to become unstable as well.
     
     
    I went back to my original Sliverstone braided cable extensions and all went back to working nominal again.




     
    I am using extensions from AsiaHorse .. no issues for like 7 months since I built my system.  However after reading this thread I reached out to my PSU maker.. they have extensions but the reviews on theirs are horrible.  I need extensions for wire management.


    You have a valid concern for sure.  I remember building full-tower cases and needing to daisy chain power cables and needing to order longer SCSI, IDE, and Floppy cables just so they could reach.   Maybe tweet something to Jacob as well as have a support ticket in to see if someone will give you something you can work with if Phantek doesn't respond.  

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    Re: Cable Mod pcie cables safe EVGA 2020/11/02 13:39:25 (permalink)
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    flg2010
    dustingg
    riku98523
    I've seen some people with failures have used aftermarket cables. Can an EVGA person chime in on their take on this and if aftermarket cables should be fine as long as they match the psu pinout?



    I actually had a set cause pure havoc on my system. 
    mod/smart Kobra Cable MAX 8pin 12Volt EPS Power Extension – Black – 16in. KMX-MB8-16X-BK-D  and mod/smart Kobra Cable MAX 24pin MB Extension – Black – 16in. KMX-MB24-16X-BK-D 
     
    This cause my GPU to dump or not even power up. also Caused the system to become unstable as well.
     
     
    I went back to my original Sliverstone braided cable extensions and all went back to working nominal again.




     
    I am using extensions from AsiaHorse .. no issues for like 7 months since I built my system.  However after reading this thread I reached out to my PSU maker.. they have extensions but the reviews on theirs are horrible.  I need extensions for wire management.


    You have a valid concern for sure.  I remember building full-tower cases and needing to daisy chain power cables and needing to order longer SCSI, IDE, and Floppy cables just so they could reach.   Maybe tweet something to Jacob as well as have a support ticket in to see if someone will give you something you can work with if Phantek doesn't respond.  




     
    I just might do that.  Thanks!  
     
    I found a complete set of Phanteks extensions on amazon.. and from their website.. sadly I am hesitant since:  1.  its cheaper by like half of what I spent for the ASIAhorse cables.  2.  I have no clue if extensions are even a smart idea.
     
    If I hear nothing from my PSU maKER i GUESS i WILL JUST BUY AN evga psu AND CABLES...   honestly its worth it if I plan to put a 809 or 1800 gpu in my rig..

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