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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Monday, April 23, 2012 8:02 PM (permalink)
So I finally tidied up the house.  For some reason the wife was unhappy with every available surface being covered with stuff.  This means I can start processing some photos.

So I started off by putting together the workstation upgrade.  My gaming rig can be down, but I still have to work, so that's the first priority.  The workstation consists of two loops:

1. i7-3930K - Mora3 140x9 - Dual PMP450S (D5 Strong)

2. EK R4E full cover block - 2 EK ram blocks - EK 8800GT block - D5 Vario - EK 250 cylinder res

As most of loop 2 was done, I started work on loop 1.  So I started off mounting the fans to the mora3.  Here it is with the CaseLabs "Super Mount".  There are four dedicated mounting points independent of the fans which is nice:



This means you can just mount the fans to the supermount and not the radiator:


 
This is useful for cleaning because you can just undo the four mounting screws between the supermount and the rad.  I.E. You don't have to remove every single fan for cleaning.  FYI the fans are low speed 140mm yates (700rpm).  I chose these because I wanted something cheap and quiet, and yates are both of those when at 700rpm.  
 
Here's the super mount with fans mounted placed on top of the rad:
 

 
Then I attached the rad to the super mount:
 

 
The only downside to this is a tiny gap between the fan and the rad.  However it's small enough that I don't think it will cause a problem:
 

 
Here it is mounted in the top of the case:
 

 
I then attached the quick disconnects to the CPU block for loop 1.  Originally they were going to attach to the case and then have compression fittings on the cpu block.  However there wasn't enough room to make the 90 degree turn, so i think this works better:
 
 

 
In the final setup I'll have some bitspower pass throughs that go to the top chamber.  For now the tubing curves around to the drive bay area where the temporary reservoir and pumps are:
 

 
Again you can see the pink vs red tube.  Primochill have shipped me some replacement tube - so props to them for taking care of it.


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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:05 PM (permalink)
So to build the workstation loop I also needed a rx360 rad from my gaming rig.  So this meant that it was time to take the gaming rig apart.  Here you can see it minus one fan that was clicking and had been removed.  Yes you can cool 3 480's, a 920 and motherboard block with 5xAP15s but yes your water gets pretty warm lol.
 

 
So once the radiators were removed, I could take some side by side pics with the new case:
 

 
Yes the TX10 is huge!
 

 

 
So enough posing, it's time to take the guts apart:
 

 
You can see how the window was hiding some messy wiring.  I hadn't bothered to tidy and sleeve much after putting in the Koolance res and STX because the TX10 was already on the way.
 
Lots of dust to be cleaned, here you can see the "saddlebag" setup of the external rads
 

 
About to take the fans and reservoir out:
 

 
Top fan and PSU removed:
 

 
Parts on the ground, parts on the ground looking like a fool with my parts on the ground!
 

 
The STX is a sexy card:
 

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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:03 PM (permalink)
Alright so more photos taking the old rig apart - we left off by removing the pci cards and the power supply:



So now let's remove the cpu block and check the tim spread:



Not the best but not awful.  Now time to take the motherboard out:



Out it comes:



Which leaves a sad empty and dusty case!



Now it's time to take apart the rad setup:



Remove the steel bars:



Then the fans:



I noticed one side of the rads now had white stains on them, these were the sides on the top:



Compared side by side to the underside (bottom rad):
 


Anyone know what that is?

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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:12 PM (permalink)
DUST. LOL But hey Ill take your old case off of your hands, I need another case for my second system.
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Friday, April 27, 2012 6:36 PM (permalink)
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DUST. LOL But hey Ill take your old case off of your hands, I need another case for my second system.

 
Looks more like some kind of corrosion, here's a close up:
 

 
 
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Friday, April 27, 2012 6:37 PM (permalink)
So we left off with the antec 300 emptied out, here's another shot of it next to the TX10 now that it's empty:
 

 
I was also now left with a big stack of fans.  This is without the 15 fans that have already been used in the TX10:
 

 
Now I could start rebuilding the gaming rig into the TX10:
 

 
Adding the 120 rad for the motherboard loop:
 

 
Testing that it still fits in the case:
 

 
Soon it must be time to start tidying up before I get slapped!
 

 
However first I need to get my work computer up.  The free 360 is being used for the workstation motherboard/ram/gpu loop and will sit approximately here:
 

 
So now to take apart the loop that was leak testing in order to add the rad:
 

 
I changed out the 45 degree bitspower compression on the GPU as it felt like it had a slight leak in in that position, so it has a temporary barb, I also removed the pump sticker.  It's much cleaner now, and who needs an overpriced dress kit ;)
 

 
That's all for now!
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Saturday, April 28, 2012 5:11 PM (permalink)
Alright I have a question about sleeving, I'm getting grey, titanium grey, black and red from mdpc and wondering the best pattern to do, what do you think?


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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:55 AM (permalink)
There is members on the forums that do custom sleving and op f looks awesome.
There is an issue with that radiator it looks like it has a small leak put water in it with blue die (Hot water) to see if it leeks out of there.
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Sunday, April 29, 2012 5:06 PM (permalink)
Thanks dude - I'll check that.
 
Here's a quick update - time to start drilling!


 
Adding some fill ports:
 

 
2 done:
 

 
All done:
 

 
 
Not as messy now:
 

 
Time to get the workstation up and running so I can get back to work (once I've cleaned up of course).  I'll be using the Koolance dual bay dual D5 reservoir for now.  It's a real pain to use because it doesn't bleed well, however if you add on some tube from the fill ports on the res up to the fill ports on the case you can keep the water level above the reservoir and it really helps.
 

 
Now we've freed up a 360 rad for the workstation gpu/motherboard/ram loop, we can put the loop together:
 

 
I'm using AP15's temporarily until I'm done painting the low speed yates.  Also that one barb is temporary too:
 

 
The wiring is temporary too.  So for loop testing, I disconnected the QDC's pulled the motherboard tray out of the case and the 360 out seperately, then I reconnected and filled the loop and left it to bleed/leak test on the counter for a few hours.
 

 
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:33 PM (permalink)
Do you have a link to those pumps you used on the Koolance reservior? Or at least to the shiny bits covering them? Thanks.
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:55 PM (permalink)
The shiny covers  come with the reservoir.  You can buy a bitspower shining silver dress top though which will have mcuh the same effect.
 
The pumps are Koolance PMP450s's which are the more powerful version of the regular D5 (when using 24V)
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Monday, April 30, 2012 1:09 AM (permalink)
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The shiny covers  come with the reservoir.  You can buy a bitspower shining silver dress top though which will have mcuh the same effect.

The pumps are Koolance PMP450s's which are the more powerful version of the regular D5 (when using 24V)

 
Is it possible for you to send me your old case? I am in a real need for a different case
 
You could also pressurize the radiator to see if it will squirt out.
 
post edited by killerjas - Monday, April 30, 2012 1:13 AM
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:16 AM (permalink)
Alright time for another update.  Here's the loop testing for the workstation.  Bear in mind this is not the final loop - it will be tidier with nicer fittings, for now I need to get my workstation up and running, I can pretty it up later.
 

 
Some of the tube is the pink tube that I had mentioned before, that will be replaced.  Bleeding of the annoying koolance reservoir was made easier by the dedicated fill ports and by the QDC's.  The D5's struggle to push that much air out of the system, so it was much easier to bleed the cpu section and the radiator seperately and then connect them up as a whole:
 

 
Now that it had passed leak testing it was time to take it to the office:
 

 
It was now heavy (and bulky) and I didn't trust the BP crystal links not to loosen up if I didn't take it down the step smoothly, so I found a piece of plywood in the shed to help:
 

 
First boot! Yay!  It wasn't just the kitchen that was covered in parts, so was the office, it's a real mess as I still had my old workstation running while I tweaked the clocks on this one.  
 

 
I temporarily put the power supply in the top chamber while I did the overclocking tweaking:
 

 
Did a quick bench to see the limit of the chip, I couldn't get past 5.22GHz on water.  I tried up to 1.66V, but nothing past 1.56 really helped.  5.22 means it's a pretty average 3930K, certainly no golden chip :(  I tried to settle for a 24/7 clock of 4.95, but I didn't like the volts, so settled down for 4.9 instead, I'll see if I can tweak the memory faster than 2133 CL9 later, here's a SS of the 5.22:
 

 
Next I installed the power supplies properly, here you can see the optional PSU support bracket for long power supplies.  It's probably not necessary, but why not?  It comes with some rubber tape to damp any vibrations:
 

 
Here's the first PSU installed:
 




post edited by stren - Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:00 AM
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:26 AM (permalink)
Nice.
 
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Wednesday, May 02, 2012 2:28 AM (permalink)
Looking good stren, looking good indeed. So close to completion too. How is the noise with all the fans running?

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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:30 AM (permalink)
Holy cow that's big. I just ordered the case labs sth10 magnum. I'm worried it's going to be too big now. I guess you do have that lower area attached, so it's taller than usual

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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:05 PM (permalink)
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Holy cow that's big. I just ordered the case labs sth10 magnum. I'm worried it's going to be too big now. I guess you do have that lower area attached, so it's taller than usual

Nice cases they make. Soooo many options.

 
Grats - I love the STH10, I really think it's the best case they make.  Don't worry it is a good bit smaller than mine, even once you get rid of the pedestal :)
 
killerjas

Nice.


 
Thanks again :)
 

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Looking good stren, looking good indeed. So close to completion too. How is the noise with all the fans running?

 
For the workstation it's not bad, I was hoping for silent, but you can definitely still here the 700rpm fans.  However I had to turn down the D5 strongs, running at 24V makes them dominate the noise.  At 12V they fade back into the background.  I expect the gaming rig will make some noise, but that's ok cause I wear headphones then :)
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:33 PM (permalink)
Took a break to put together an ivy rig for a co-worker:
 
A board!
 

 
blah blah blah marketing - where's the window that the extreme boards have?
 

 
Now there's a board
 

 
I liked the door hanger - unfortunately this is for an overclocked workstation so not too useful here:
 

 
A large box for some memory (32giggles):
 

 
Matching:
 

 
Oh and a cpu:
 

 
Best put that in the socket then:
 

 
We should remove that plastic cover too:
 

 
Putting in that H100:
 

 
Yeah I know no custom water loop, but this is going to someone who can't be trusted with such things ;) miniThief is getting there:
 

 
 
miniThief- now with 100% more PSU:
 

 
Don't forget a GPU (9800GT ftw!)
 

 
Close up:
 

 
ISO:
 

 
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:38 PM (permalink)
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Took a break to put together an ivy rig for a co-worker:

A board!



blah blah blah marketing - where's the window that the extreme boards have?



Now there's a board



I liked the door hanger - unfortunately this is for an overclocked workstation so not too useful here:



A large box for some memory (32giggles):



Matching:



Oh and a cpu:



Best put that in the socket then:



We should remove that plastic cover too:



Putting in that H100:



Yeah I know no custom water loop, but this is going to someone who can't be trusted with such things ;) miniThief is getting there:




miniThief- now with 100% more PSU:



Don't forget a GPU (9800GT ftw!)



Close up:



ISO:




 
Can you send that my WAY? 
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Thursday, May 03, 2012 6:25 AM (permalink)
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Can you send that my WAY?  

Glad you like it - I made an unboxing video of the the mobo/cpu/ram
 
http://youtu.be/89UngExlDHQ
 
Not sure how to embed a movie here though
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:24 AM (permalink)


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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Saturday, May 05, 2012 1:35 AM (permalink)
Thanks dude - what's the secret?
 
So back to the *real* project.  Now that my workstation was up and running, I could take the old one down:
 

 
OMG dust!  This is three months worth:
 

 
Still yucky:
 

 

 
Got out the duster and started taking it apart:
 

 
Nearly done
 

 
Now I've gone and made the kitchen messy again:
 

 
 
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:20 AM (permalink)
is there any particular reason you use older gpu's for workstations? Do you just need them to drive monitors?


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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:19 AM (permalink)
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is there any particular reason you use older gpu's for workstations? Do you just need them to drive monitors?

 
Yeah they don't do any 3d work, I favor nvidia for linux because of the official drivers, and then get the cheapest card that can drive 2 monitors :)
 
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:25 AM (permalink)
In there day 8800's were the bomb
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:13 PM (permalink)
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In there day 8800's were the bomb

Too true - still useful for some 3d work too.  I played SC2 on my 8800gt at 2560x1600 just yesterday, ok not ultra settings, but "high" was just fine.
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:16 PM (permalink)
So as it's the weekend you get bonus updates :)
 
This is how I initially wanted the PSU's to give maximum air intake:
 

 
However the left PSU once it had cables would conflict with the 360 rad mounted in front of it, so I decided to move it:
 

 
Done, you can see there's still a good amount of space in between:
 

 
Now to mount them - they're going in the second to bottom compartment:
 

 
and mounted:
 

 
Now time to mount all the hard drives - here are the gaming rig drives:
 

 
Now let's add in the workstation drives:
 

 
old skool x25e:
 

 
All done:
 

 
Now to cable it - I hate how asus only give you sata cables with right angles at one end and straights at the other.  For this build I really need straight to straights, so I had to order some more from the egg, this is the temporary rats nest:
 

 
Yikes!
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:05 AM (permalink)
Alright a quick update as I got some more time to process photos (on a side note the first mdpc package came woot!)
 
I got the workstation back up and running:
 

 
 
But I had to use the gaming side for location of the power supply as the cables were not long enough to reach the real location.  As you can see it makes a good storage room also:
 

 
 
Workstation in action - no 2nd 8800gt yet because I'm only driving two screens, the card is being used as a test card for now for some other rigs I'm building.
 

 
 
Again a lot of fittings are temporary.  So now back to the gaming rig.  I transferred the sweet trident ram from my worksation to the gaming rig (I think it maybe hypers), it can do 2130 CL 8 and probably more but that's the limit of my 990x IMC.  Should have tried two sticks in the 3770K rig I slapped together to see what it could really do!  The ugly p6t board that was being used for the workstation is now going into a generic network maintenance use and will be put in a rack.
 

 
 
A shot of that sexy ram:
 

 
 
And the motherboard tray:
 

 
 
Here you can see I had soldered on an extra molex connector to the board (just to the bottom of the STX).  My old case didn't have room to connect a power cable to the real connector, so this helped me give the gpus enough power.
 

 
 
And now time to swap the 920 for that sweet 990x:
 

 
 
 
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:53 PM (permalink)
Nice Can you send me some of your old stuff like that case? I am in real need of some stuff.
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Re:[Build Log] Project Thief - a TX10 dual workstation/gaming build with 18 bay waterfall Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:47 AM (permalink)
Wow, that case is a beast. Really nice work, good job so far.


 
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