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2015/08/04 00:43:06 (permalink)
So I was able to order one of the GTX 980 Ti Hybrids that were on sale last Thursday and it arrives sometime today.
I was wondering what the best location and orientation to mount the rad and fan would be?
 
I found 2 pictures from @mjs85 with his 980 hybrid/s
The 1st Picture shows the rad mounted blowing air out the rear exhaust, and it shows the tubes at the bottom of the rad.

 
 
The 2nd Picture shows he placed the rad pulling air from the front of the case this time with the tubes on the side.

 
Also would you guys change the stock fan that comes with the hybrid?
 

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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 05:32:33 (permalink)
    Unless the fan noise bothers you I would not change it. As to the placement of the radiator. I wouldn't place it near a heat source Ala the rear positioning unless the CPU cooler was blowing a different way. Why push hot air into your radiator? If theres a top vent try that or the front setup looks best. The front looks best given the layout of the case.


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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 07:32:53 (permalink)
    As long as you are not venting the hot air into your case or are trying to push lots of hot case air into the rad, you should be ok. Just remember the the radiator will never be cooler than the air put into it. The hotter the air going in the hotter your gpu will run. 
    post edited by yuukichan - 2015/08/04 07:36:01
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 07:59:14 (permalink)
    What about in a Silverstone FT02 or FT05 where the only exhaust vent is on the top of the case above the CPU?

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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 08:02:44 (permalink)
    Are the tubes supposed to be coming out of the top of the rad?  In these pics they are on the bottom or the side.  Does it matter?
     

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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 08:08:30 (permalink)
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    Are the tubes supposed to be coming out of the top of the rad?  In these pics they are on the bottom or the side.  Does it matter?
     




    That's just the angle he installed it at. You can flip the radiator any which way you want assuming the mounting holes still line up.

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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 08:14:47 (permalink)
    Whats your case? And is your Cpu air cooled or has it his own AIO? Ideally what you wanna do is to place the rad as an outtake. But Not at a place where it can only get air from your cpu air cooler then put it in the top of your case. Mounting in the front isnt the best, not so much because you push the hot air from the rad into your case but the rad has to be mounted above the pump otherwise noise!
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 08:19:48 (permalink)
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    That's just the angle he installed it at. You can flip the radiator any which way you want assuming the mounting holes still line up.



    Right, but I thought I read somewhere that the system works better with the tubes at the top. Of course I can't recall where I saw it or if it was from a reputable source.
     

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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 08:55:05 (permalink)
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    That's just the angle he installed it at. You can flip the radiator any which way you want assuming the mounting holes still line up.



    Right, but I thought I read somewhere that the system works better with the tubes at the top. Of course I can't recall where I saw it or if it was from a reputable source.
     



    Eh I don't really recall ever seeing anything of the sort. When you top mount a radiator there is really no ''top'' just either making the tubes be on the left or right side. As long as the tube aren't bent of overly constricted in any sort of way is what you want.

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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 09:07:05 (permalink)
    OP, the thread isn't popping up on Page 1 anymore, but for kicks have a look at the 980 Ti / Titan X Hybrid thread that was started awhile back, might be some useful input there: http://forums.evga.com/Titan-X-and-980-hybrid-cooler-official-thread-m2327117-p21.aspx
     
    As for radiator placement, generally you want it above the graphics card / pump. Also I agree with an exhaust configuration at the top of your case if you can accommodate it. Get that hot air out. I have not replaced the stock fan on the radiator, it has been fine for me.
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 09:38:23 (permalink)
    I'm going to be receiving my hybrid kit today and I might be limited to mounting the rad up front . The fan ideally should be pushing air out correct ? The picture here shows he has fan's pushing air in.
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 10:01:52 (permalink)
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    Whats your case? And is your Cpu air cooled or has it his own AIO? Ideally what you wanna do is to place the rad as an outtake. But Not at a place where it can only get air from your cpu air cooler then put it in the top of your case. Mounting in the front isnt the best, not so much because you push the hot air from the rad into your case but the rad has to be mounted above the pump otherwise noise!



    I have a Cooler Master Storm Stryker. I am cooling my CPU with a Corsair H100i pulling air out of the top of the case.
     
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    That's just the angle he installed it at. You can flip the radiator any which way you want assuming the mounting holes still line up.



    Right, but I thought I read somewhere that the system works better with the tubes at the top. Of course I can't recall where I saw it or if it was from a reputable source.

     
    I herd the same thing, that placing the tubes on top would cause the pump to fight gravity more? Im not 100% sure.
    post edited by SSSJDanny - 2015/08/04 10:04:03
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 17:52:24 (permalink)
    vegnar
    I'm going to be receiving my hybrid kit today and I might be limited to mounting the rad up front . The fan ideally should be pushing air out correct ? The picture here shows he has fan's pushing air in.



    He chose to pull cool air through the raidator and into the case because he wanted his cards to be the coolest they could be and if he pushed air out of the case from the front he wouldn't have any intake fans since every fan would be an exhaust.  That cool air will become warm air once it passes through the radiator though.  It's what I did because I want my cards to be the coolest they can be since they cost more than anything else on my system and the rest of the stuff inside the case can take the added heat and I have good circulation in the case. The air isn't that hot coming out and I imagine it's still a lot cooler than cards that dump their hot air into the case and not out the back.
     
    You just have to decide do you want your cards the coolest or the inside of the case to be a little cooler.  Basically however your fans are now, leave them that way and just stick the radiator there with it's fan whether you decide to pull air in into the case and through the radiator or push air out of the case through the radiator.  Just have to decide which of those you want to put your radiator there and keep the same fan direction, moving air in or out of the case.
     
    Some cases have limited options because of their size though.  And the direction the radiator is placed is also because of the length of the tube and how it fits in the case.  I put mine up front and had to turn the radiator on the side so it would fit....on top the hose was pulled too tight and on bottom it twisted the hose funky.
     
    I'd love to see how someone 4-ways a set of these with all the radiators.
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 18:24:54 (permalink)
    This is going to be my situation , I have a Define R4 because I'm all about silent gaming and installed a Noctua NH-D14 cpu cooler so that doesn't leave me a lot of room between the cpu cooler and the rear fan,  My option it seems is only up front on the upper fan slot. 
     
    Here is what I'm pondering up front I currently have 2 fans (intake) pulling air in , if I place the radiation and push air out (top fan)  does that air comes right back into the case because the bottom fan will pull it in?  or because in theory it will be warm/hot air it will just rise and not going to be pulled by the bottom fan? 
     
    I loaded some pics.  sigh don't know what's going on , all the pics are less than 500kb and the won't load.
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 18:38:27 (permalink)
    Trying again

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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 20:51:20 (permalink)
    You're probably better off just having the front fans blowing in across the radiator. The difference will probably be negligible and the split fan direction approach would just mess up the airflow onside the case.


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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/04 22:40:05 (permalink)
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    This is going to be my situation , I have a Define R4 because I'm all about silent gaming and installed a Noctua NH-D14 cpu cooler so that doesn't leave me a lot of room between the cpu cooler and the rear fan,  My option it seems is only up front on the upper fan slot. 
     
    Here is what I'm pondering up front I currently have 2 fans (intake) pulling air in , if I place the radiation and push air out (top fan)  does that air comes right back into the case because the bottom fan will pull it in?  or because in theory it will be warm/hot air it will just rise and not going to be pulled by the bottom fan? 


    What is at the top of your case currently- any fans on top above the NH-D14 as exhaust? If you don't have any fans on top at the moment, you might be able to sneak in the radiator on top as exhaust. It will be really close with the tubes and likely won't fit, it was just a thought I had looking at your photos. I used to run a NH-D14, man, that thing is just too massive. It is totally awesome, but massive and needed to go. At the very least you should be fine installing the radiator at the top-front, may be your only option.
     
    You shouldn't have the radiator set up as exhaust on the front upper fan slot and then the bottom front fan set as intake, agree with above commenter. Both the radiator fan and case fan on the front of the case should be intake.
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/05 08:29:27 (permalink)
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    This is going to be my situation , I have a Define R4 because I'm all about silent gaming and installed a Noctua NH-D14 cpu cooler so that doesn't leave me a lot of room between the cpu cooler and the rear fan,  My option it seems is only up front on the upper fan slot. 
     
    Here is what I'm pondering up front I currently have 2 fans (intake) pulling air in , if I place the radiation and push air out (top fan)  does that air comes right back into the case because the bottom fan will pull it in?  or because in theory it will be warm/hot air it will just rise and not going to be pulled by the bottom fan? 


    What is at the top of your case currently- any fans on top above the NH-D14 as exhaust? If you don't have any fans on top at the moment, you might be able to sneak in the radiator on top as exhaust. It will be really close with the tubes and likely won't fit, it was just a thought I had looking at your photos. I used to run a NH-D14, man, that thing is just too massive. It is totally awesome, but massive and needed to go. At the very least you should be fine installing the radiator at the top-front, may be your only option.
     
    You shouldn't have the radiator set up as exhaust on the front upper fan slot and then the bottom front fan set as intake, agree with above commenter. Both the radiator fan and case fan on the front of the case should be intake.




    I successfully installed the hybrid kit and was rather easy, I'm happy with my performance so far overclocked my card +202/450  and idle temps are 23c and max load while playing BF4 and Witcher 3 is 48c.  I don't hear any pump noise and fan is quiet, only thing that I noticed is one the tubes vibrates really strong vs the other,  this kind of makes the case rattle emitting a humming or vibrate type of noise, not too annoying but definitely noticeable at 1 am when it's all quiet.
     
     
    The hardest part for me was my stupid case (R4) doesn't have decent mounting options, the only place where the rad would fit for me is in the front, but the R4 has a stupid bracket for the fans so even though you can mount a 120mm fan, the rad would not fit as it's bigger than 120mm (140mm are snap on so no holes for that either).  Luckily I had a Noctua P12 fan and 4 long screws that I had to do a push/pull type of mounting blowing air into the case to be able to mount it but it was not easy. 
     
    So far happy just wondering about the vibration intensity of one of the tubes, is this normal?  mainly because the other tube doesn't vibrate as hard.
     
     
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    Re: Best location and orientation to position Hybrid Rad? 2015/08/05 12:27:15 (permalink)
    Mine are positioned at the front and the front bottom of my case, with the fan pulling air from the outside going to the inside. Its on my ModsRigs images. The front panel rad is using a different fan connected to a fan controller. So I can control how fast they go + the sound it makes.

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