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2016/07/02 17:17:10 (permalink)
I noticed that when I run the Uniengine Heaven 4.0 Benchmark, my temperatures flatten out at around 82 C. This is with the default clockspeed settings and fan profile. 
 
Is this within the normal operating range for the 1080 FTW? It seems around 8-10 C higher than the temperature reported in the reviews and what other users reported. 
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 17:36:34 (permalink)
    It shouldn't hit that high at all, do you have good air flowing in your case?

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 17:48:58 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
    that does seem a tad high for the FTW cooler however it could come down to poor air flow and high ambient temperatures in your case.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 18:20:57 (permalink)
    I think I have pretty good air flow. I am using a Fractal Design Nano S case. I have two 140mm intake fans in the front and a 120mm outtake fan in the rear. 
     
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 18:31:00 (permalink)
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    I think I have pretty good air flow. I am using a Fractal Design Nano S case. I have two 140mm intake fans in the front and a 120mm outtake fan in the rear. 
     
    Here is an image of my setup:
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    Yeah that airflow looks fine. Some chips just run hotter than others. 82C is nothing to be concerned about in terms of stability and performance however you may want to remove the cooler and clean / re-apply thermal paste to see if the temperatures drop. I noticed a 6C drop in temperatures by doing this on several cards.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 19:11:22 (permalink)
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    I noticed that when I run the Uniengine Heaven 4.0 Benchmark, my temperatures flatten out at around 82 C. This is with the default clockspeed settings and fan profile. 
     
    Is this within the normal operating range for the 1080 FTW? It seems around 8-10 C higher than the temperature reported in the reviews and what other users reported. 




    The couple reviews I've looked at put the FTW @ 82c or close. Seems to run hotter than the other brands at default fan profile.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 19:21:11 (permalink)
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    I think I have pretty good air flow. I am using a Fractal Design Nano S case. I have two 140mm intake fans in the front and a 120mm outtake fan in the rear. 
     
    Here is an image of my setup:
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    Yeah that airflow looks fine. Some chips just run hotter than others. 82C is nothing to be concerned about in terms of stability and performance however you may want to remove the cooler and clean / re-apply thermal paste to see if the temperatures drop. I noticed a 6C drop in temperatures by doing this on several cards.




    I just tried replacing the thermal paste on the GPU with some spare mx-4 I have lying around. The temperatures are now around 81 C when running the Uniengine benchmark. I was kind of hoping for more of a drop. 
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 19:28:17 (permalink)
    What are your temps at when gaming regularly though?
    Your air flow looks good but does the temps drop if you take the side of your case off?
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 19:29:38 (permalink)
    Something like ICDiamond, or even better Grizzly Kryonaut, would be a little better than MX-4.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 19:37:37 (permalink)
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    What are your temps at when gaming regularly though?
    Your air flow looks good but does the temps drop if you take the side of your case off?




    Nope, temperatures remain the same even when I take off the side panel. 
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 22:06:45 (permalink)
    Try the new precision and set to aggressive fan profile. Temps should drop by 10c or more. 

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/02 22:21:18 (permalink)
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    I noticed that when I run the Uniengine Heaven 4.0 Benchmark, my temperatures flatten out at around 82 C. This is with the default clockspeed settings and fan profile. 
     
    Is this within the normal operating range for the 1080 FTW? It seems around 8-10 C higher than the temperature reported in the reviews and what other users reported. 


    The default fan profile is set to keep the GPU ~80C under load. It's been that way for the last several generations of GPU's. Your case is fairly small and a single 120mm fan is pretty anemic for the exhaust. You have the equivalent of around 300 watts or more being dissipated as heat inside your case.  It would be interesting to know the speed of your GPU fans while under load. If you're only running a 50% or so, you have a lot of headroom left.

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 00:27:22 (permalink)
    Take note that your case is not overly large and you've got the PSU in close proximity to the cooler.

    Yes your temps are a little higher than most but not out of the norm for that type of cooler in that size case. The ACX cooler won't exhaust 100% of the heat generated, especially with that blockage.

    If you really want cooler temps, try setting a more aggressive fan profile.

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 00:57:32 (permalink)
    ...if the case doesn't have adequate air flow .. adding a aggressive fan curve may actually make gpu temps worse. Your just pulling more hot air onto the gpu. what I would be looking at is adding higher CFM fans or buying a new "bigger"case altogether. those temps are wayy too high for me. A an enthusiast card like the FTW should be getting much lower temps
    .. Honestly , I'd just pull the side panel off your case and be done with it.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 01:12:25 (permalink)
    The best solution in my personal opinion is simply to save some cash and buy a much larger PC chassis. This will allow more airflow.

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 02:54:14 (permalink)
    the positive air pressure in a that small case doesn't really allow a fast heat dissipation, imo.
    I would turn the bottom front fan to an exhaust and see if anything changes under load. 

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 03:51:15 (permalink)
    I reconfigured my PSU fan so that it now faces the gpu and pushes air upwards. Also, I swapped out my air cooler for a H100i with exhaust on top. Temperatures in Heaven 4.0 benchmark are now around 73-74 C. 

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 03:54:21 (permalink)
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    I reconfigured my PSU fan so that it now faces the gpu and pushes air upwards. Also, I swapped out my air cooler for a H100i with exhaust on top. Temperatures in Heaven 4.0 benchmark are now around 73-74 C. 



    Excellent work. As was stated earlier airflow was the problem. Glad this is resolved.

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 04:12:29 (permalink)
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    I reconfigured my PSU fan so that it now faces the gpu and pushes air upwards. Also, I swapped out my air cooler for a H100i with exhaust on top. Temperatures in Heaven 4.0 benchmark are now around 73-74 C. 
     



    The large fan on your PSU pulls air, it does not push. It pulls air into the PSU and exhausts it out the back. While that may help your GPU temps because you are in fact pulling the hot air it generates away, you are just pulling that hot air into the PSU. And that is never a good thing. All PSUs should be pulling in fresh air from the outside, it's why a bottom mount case has a hole in the bottom for the PSU fan, with all it's exhaust going out the back. With that config, the PSU won't be adding much to the overall temp inside the case.

    Switching to the H100i was a good move, as the majority of it's heat will go right out of the case, and pull the hot air from the GPU with it. I would strongly suggest fixing your PSU so the fan faces the bottom, your temps should still be better than the 82c you had before due to that H100i increasing the exhaust airflow. I would also mount the fans for that H100i on top of the radiator in a pull configuration. That will prevent dust from building up between the fans and the radiator. With the radiator fans on top in a pull config, any dust that collects on the bottom of the radiator will be easy to clean off.

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 05:42:28 (permalink)
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    I reconfigured my PSU fan so that it now faces the gpu and pushes air upwards. Also, I swapped out my air cooler for a H100i with exhaust on top. Temperatures in Heaven 4.0 benchmark are now around 73-74 C. 
     



    The large fan on your PSU pulls air, it does not push. It pulls air into the PSU and exhausts it out the back. While that may help your GPU temps because you are in fact pulling the hot air it generates away, you are just pulling that hot air into the PSU. And that is never a good thing. All PSUs should be pulling in fresh air from the outside, it's why a bottom mount case has a hole in the bottom for the PSU fan, with all it's exhaust going out the back. With that config, the PSU won't be adding much to the overall temp inside the case.

    Switching to the H100i was a good move, as the majority of it's heat will go right out of the case, and pull the hot air from the GPU with it. I would strongly suggest fixing your PSU so the fan faces the bottom, your temps should still be better than the 82c you had before due to that H100i increasing the exhaust airflow. I would also mount the fans for that H100i on top of the radiator in a pull configuration. That will prevent dust from building up between the fans and the radiator. With the radiator fans on top in a pull config, any dust that collects on the bottom of the radiator will be easy to clean off.




    No worries, I dissembled the psu and flipped the fan around as well. As for the H100i, I am too lazy to remount it so I just placed the top panel cover that came with my case back into its original position (with about 10mm gap to vent air out). 
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 20:40:33 (permalink)
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 22:43:40 (permalink)
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    Something like ICDiamond, or even better Grizzly Kryonaut, would be a little better than MX-4.



     
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/03 22:47:43 (permalink)
    If you google it and get into threads from Tom's Hardware, Corsair Forums, Anandtech, etc. you'll learn that it really doesn't matter much.  There are always factors to consider in which orientation to go with (location of the case - will it sit right on the floor/carpet, how diligently will you be cleaning out the filter, etc).  Personally I've tried both and haven't noticed a temperature difference either way.  I currently have mine with the fan up because I installed it with fan down first to record temps then flipped it to compare, since it didn't matter which way I just left it as is.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/05 07:45:56 (permalink)
    What is the thermal throttle on the GTX 1080 anyway? It's not listed on Nvidia's domain like it is with the 9 series.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/05 13:24:30 (permalink)
    I don't own the FTW version, but my 1080GTX F.E. doesn't break 64C ever. I originally looked at the 1080 GTX FTW, due to extra power and phase design, and supposed better cooling, but then what good is the extra +35 watts of power, if the chip itself isn't capable of achieving higher than promised clocks?
    My F.E. does 1989mhz core stable(+136 offset) and +5500mhz memory(+500 offset),@ stock voltage, that is more than enough of a OC for me! 

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/05 14:27:11 (permalink)
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    I don't own the FTW version, but my 1080GTX F.E. doesn't break 64C ever. I originally looked at the 1080 GTX FTW, due to extra power and phase design, and supposed better cooling, but then what good is the extra +35 watts of power, if the chip itself isn't capable of achieving higher than promised clocks?
    My F.E. does 1989mhz core stable(+136 offset) and +5500mhz memory(+500 offset),@ stock voltage, that is more than enough of a OC for me! 

     




     
    When you say stock voltage. Is that including not touching the power target and raising it to 120%? 

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/05 14:53:11 (permalink)
    My card was set at 120% pwr/ target 92C out of the box. At least thats what the tuner showed upon opening PrecisionX 15.0.13.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/05 14:57:43 (permalink)
    Great work on the case rework. I learned much from this post. I've heard that at 80% these gpu fans are quieter than the 980 ti fans at 50%. You set the fan speed to 70% and you are looking at cooler temps still.
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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/05 15:04:14 (permalink)
    I run a Antec eleven hundred v2 carbon fiber with 9x 120mm 2k rpm case fans.
    Its been my experience that axial cooled cards only dissipate the heat into the case. My 670 Gtx FTW's had radial coolers and ran much cooler than my 770 SC ACX axial cooled cards.
    This past result influenced me greatly on purchasing another radial cooled 1080 F.E.

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    Re: Are my 1080 FTW temperatures a bit high? 2016/07/05 15:24:36 (permalink)
    Sean1976
    My card was set at 120% pwr/ target 92C out of the box. At least thats what the tuner showed upon opening PrecisionX 15.0.13.

     
    That is for the previous cards. The new software is here for Pasqal. http://www.evga.com/precisionxoc/ might want to grab that. Uninstall the other first and reboot. 

    HP Omen 880-160se custom ordered
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    RAM: 32GB DDR4 2400
    GPU: PNY XLR8 RTX 3080
    PSU: Delta 750w 80 Plus Platinum 
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