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2016/06/11 10:02:57 (permalink)
This is geared towards the ACX 3.0 owners, any coil whine while playing high fps games?

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 13:14:55 (permalink)
    The FTW and up have upgraded power phases. The SC and below are reference cards with a different cooler. There have been coil whine reports on some reference cards including EVGA ones.
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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 13:35:56 (permalink)
    I thought EVGA was producing their own boards.  I don't see the NVIDIA tag on anything but the FE.

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 14:22:08 (permalink)
    I haven't heard it in-game, but on the 1080 SC you do hear it while stress testing in FurMark.
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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 14:26:32 (permalink)
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    I thought EVGA was producing their own boards.  I don't see the NVIDIA tag on anything but the FE.


    It's the same board, it has the NVIDIA logo. Even if EVGA produces it, it's produced to NVIDIA's reference specs.
     
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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 14:41:13 (permalink)
    If it has the logo, you are correct.  If EVGA produced it, it is a very similar board.  We've had that discussion in a few other threads already.  I was just going by the pictures on the EVGA website.  I wonder if they just slapped a cooler on a board for the reviews or if they are all actually NVIDIA?

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 14:44:08 (permalink)
    Read the only newegg review for the SC card. Owner has cool whine and is returning it. I'm seriously bummed I ordered the SC card now. I've gone from pumped to now total buyers remorse.

    Edit: a user on Hardforums also is reporting coil whine and is very upset.
    post edited by pbmpharmacist - 2016/06/11 14:57:01

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 14:45:54 (permalink)
    The Regular Acx 3.0 and SC cards use the same exact board as the FE.  The FE has a different cooler heatsink attached

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 14:48:00 (permalink)
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    The Regular Acx 3.0 and SC cards use the same exact board as the FE.  The FE has a different cooler heatsink attached




    That's actually what I am looking at now.  I don't think they are the 'exact same board'.  In the JayzTwoCents video it has the the NVIDIA logo.  Does yours?  Or is it a board made by EVGA?
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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 14:55:17 (permalink)
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    This is geared towards the ACX 3.0 owners, any coil whine while playing high fps games?



    Coil whine is more likely when the card is new. It is a good idea to try to settle the inductors by running an extended test of a benchmark like Unigine Heaven.
    It also helps to not have the card run much faster than the 144Hz of your high refresh rate monitor by enabling V-Sync or Adaptive V-Sync or, if supported, G-Sync

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 14:58:03 (permalink)
    My Acx 3.0 card is pretty much whisper silent.  I love it!  I think the highest the fan has ever gotten is like 40%! =)

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 15:08:06 (permalink)
    I do hear the buzz from coil whine when I take off my headphones and try to listen. Is that bad or doesn't matter... because I don't hear it with headphones on.
     
    EDIT: Also whats a coil whine, does it mean the card is defective and I should get a replacement? or its no problem because it doesn't really bother me. (kinda does because I know its there)
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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 18:02:28 (permalink)
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    I haven't heard it in-game, but on the 1080 SC you do hear it while stress testing in FurMark.



    I am having the same issue, I am hearing a loud buzzing noise with my card when running 3DMark.
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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 18:10:47 (permalink)
    CoercionShaman
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    The Regular Acx 3.0 and SC cards use the same exact board as the FE.  The FE has a different cooler heatsink attached




    That's actually what I am looking at now.  I don't think they are the 'exact same board'.  In the JayzTwoCents video it has the the NVIDIA logo.  Does yours?  Or is it a board made by EVGA?


    EVGA puts a S/N sticker right on top of where the board says Nvidia.  
     
    I had to take off the side of my case and stick my ear right up to the card and even then it was only a very faint coil whine under full load. I can not hear it all when I move just a few inches away or put the side of my case on. 
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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 18:17:11 (permalink)
    I actually just reviewed several photos from someone and saw that the card is from NVIDIA.  It's made in China vs. the Taiwan cards, but it uses the same components and has a very clean format in the PCB layering.

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 18:27:27 (permalink)
    Hitha
    I do hear the buzz from coil whine when I take off my headphones and try to listen. Is that bad or doesn't matter... because I don't hear it with headphones on.
     
    EDIT: Also whats a coil whine, does it mean the card is defective and I should get a replacement? or its no problem because it doesn't really bother me. (kinda does because I know its there)




     
    In simple terms, coil whine is the vibration of a coil as current passes through it.  It's been happening more lately on cards as the requirements have put it into an audible range with current loading.  They started adding chokes to help with it, but sometimes it doesn't help as much as they would like.  They added damping as well but it can 'break loose' and continue to make noise.    Your card isn't 'defective' really, but you could get one that is much better as far as noise.  The hard part of that is that the entire power circuit can affect it.  It might now have made any noise in a different system.  Sometimes it will lessen as the circuit adapts to the load.  You might literally even be able to remove it by changing the overclock on your CPU and thus changing the load or by using a different power supply.
     
    That's the gist of it.  We actually taught this as part of basic electronics.  We could talk about it for hours.  Just take this much and leave it be. 

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/11 23:41:33 (permalink)
    Coil whine will always be present in anything with a transducer, the real question is if/when you can actually hear it.
     
    I would say my SC edition is a bit more whiny than my old 780SLI setup that it replaced. Some things I have noticed are:
    • The same whine frequency was present in the same conditions on multiple PSUs (Corsair RM1000 and a 750W Seasonic).
    • The whine is more noticeable in benchmarks when FPS is not limited (this is normal for most cards), but it can also occur when the FPS is locked @60.
    • The main trigger seems not to be directly tied to load as some games like Witcher 3 runs with very little whine even when near 100% load, while FFXIV can whine if HBAO is enabled (even though load doesn't go above 60%).
    • The whine was more noticeable out of the box, but after spending a couple of days loading it up with benchmarks and gameplay it has gotten a bit quieter (or I've just gotten more accustomed to it).
    All that being said, the whine is only audible to me since my build runs very quiet (the AC vent across the room is actually louder than the case right next to me). If my fans weren't set as low as they can go without stalling I would likely not be able to hear the whine over the fans. It's usually not loud enough to hear over my speakers. I don't really feel it's loud enough to warrant an RMA.
     
    The only noise that's actually bothered me so far turned out to be the fans. I thought it was whine at first, but it was more of a buzz so I took a closer look. Turns out the tap holding the logo LED wire down was a bit loose and too close to the fan blade. It was vibrating when the fan was on and making the buzz. I pushed the tape back into place and no more buzz.
     
    Overall I'm very pleased with my GPU. It runs very cool and quiet (74C @35% fan).

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    Re: Any coil whine during high fps games? 2016/06/12 02:16:14 (permalink)
    You should not be able to hear coil whine when gaming with decent audio levels, however a slight buzz coming from the card is too be expected. It really often depends on which case you use, or if your fans by some luck can deafen the buzz when gaming. Also in some games during game menus coil whine can often be heard, this is quite normal since your fps sometimes can reach 700+ in game menus. And last 3D Mark will always make your card coil whine in certain parts of its test, this is normal. If your card can reach above 200 fps in some games, consider using adaptive sync/g-sync/freesync or whatever is available to you, as at that amount of FPS is when all graphics cards starts coil whining no matter how many VRM modules you toss on the PCB.
     
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