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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 10:42:45
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That price on the RX 6900XT is very very tempting for people looking strictly for gaming. Obviously the 24GB of GDDR6x on the 3090 is better for workloads, but for gaming you are not going to need anything close to 24GB for the foreseeable future. For gaming it is just not worth the huge difference in price. We'll see how reviews of the 6900XT vs. 3090 stack up, but at this point if my 3090 came up in the list I would turn it down.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 10:44:28
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Was pricing revealed? I haven't seen anything about pricing yet & I missed the actual presentation while at work...
Oof. Just looked it up $650 for a 6800XT... that's... not cheap.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 10:48:57
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Was pricing revealed? I haven't seen anything about pricing yet & I missed the actual presentation while at work...
Oof. Just looked it up $650 for a 6800XT... that's... not cheap.
LOL, ya I also added to the post... suppose pricing is an important detail 
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 10:51:01
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For me it comes down to the drivers. AMD isn’t worth a small savings in price for drivers that are not as easy to work with. Also who tests a 3080 at 1440p and not 4K? Waiting for independent reviews since also the list of games mostly avoids Ray Tracing.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 10:57:35
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Great year for AMD, I will probably get a 5950 or 5900 CPU but I still thank Nvidia GPUs are a little better with faster ray tracing and DLSS support. I completely counting AMD out when I bought my 3090 so when RDNA 3.0 cards are about to come out, I will not be counting AMD out lol.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 10:57:40
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For me it comes down to the drivers. AMD isn’t worth a small savings in price for drivers that are not as easy to work with. Also who tests a 3080 at 1440p and not 4K? Waiting for independent reviews since also the list of games mostly avoids Ray Tracing.
I added the 4K slide. Ray tracing wasn't really talked about much so one could assume AMD isn't winning on that.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 10:58:31
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Oof. Just looked it up $650 for a 6800XT... that's... not cheap.
...It's $50 less than the 3080 that their benchmarks show the 6800XT beating. lol
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:03:07
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999 for a 6900xt vs 1500 for a 3090. I know the 3090 is probably a better workload card, but AMD just hammered nvidia pretty hard. Combine this with their new CPU's.... the Canadian's have declared war.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:08:06
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$999 for the 6900XT which trades blows with the $1,500 3090
$649 for the 6800XT which beats the $699 3080
$579 for the 6800 which beats out the $499 3070
If the benchmarks turn out to be legit - AMD just put one serious hurting on Nvidia. I don't care how big of a fanboy you are, you can't deny that.
Ray tracing performance will obviously be better on RTX cards - but for most people, ray tracing is the least of their concerns.
If AMD has supply like they claim they do, they're about to put a monster hurting on Nvidia in the GPU sales department. Period.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:09:56
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$999 for the 6900XT which trades blows with the $1,500 3090
$649 for the 6800XT which beats the $699 3080
$579 for the 6800 which beats out the $499 3070
If the benchmarks turn out to be legit - AMD just put one serious hurting on Nvidia. I don't care how big of a fanboy you are, you can't deny that.
Ray tracing performance will obviously be better on RTX cards - but for most people, ray tracing is the least of their concerns.
If AMD has supply like they claim they do, they're about to put a monster hurting on Nvidia in the GPU sales department. Period.
This. It will come down to the bots again. If we can actually buy these cards.... I might ebay my 3090. Especially if my freakin block isn't here yet.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:10:03
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For me it comes down to the drivers. AMD isn’t worth a small savings in price for drivers that are not as easy to work with. Also who tests a 3080 at 1440p and not 4K? Waiting for independent reviews since also the list of games mostly avoids Ray Tracing.
I added the 4K slide. Ray tracing wasn't really talked about much so one could assume AMD isn't winning on that.
The games they picked might favor AMD and the lack of ray tracing really makes me feel it’s probably not going to go that well in reviews. For non ray traced games the 3080 is already a beast for anything not ray traced. The savings also is literally less then cost of a new game so it really depends on if a game is bundled as to which is a better value even if they are equal in all benchmarks. Also the associate rewards program saving the 5% could cut the price difference down by $35-40. We have yet to see what the final price will be for the third party AMD cards when they start to offer better coolers and lighting that will impact prices of these cards.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:13:06
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I suspect given they enable the memory feature and rage mode on the 6900 that it will actually slot in a bit below the 3090. But for $500 less, its certainly something to consider if they have sorted the drivers.
Wonder if the next threadripper will support that memory feature?
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:16:32
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Pricing on the street will swerve all over the place. Next up is the RTX 3070 which hopefully not come off as more fiasco for NVIDIA et al. Auctions on eBay have also toned prices down substantially. I am still waiting for products in NewEgg at surface. Right now it's slim pickings unless you are looking for a new SSD or chassis,
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:21:29
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For me it comes down to the drivers. AMD isn’t worth a small savings in price for drivers that are not as easy to work with. Also who tests a 3080 at 1440p and not 4K? Waiting for independent reviews since also the list of games mostly avoids Ray Tracing.
I added the 4K slide. Ray tracing wasn't really talked about much so one could assume AMD isn't winning on that.
The games they picked might favor AMD and the lack of ray tracing really makes me feel it’s probably not going to go that well in reviews. For non ray traced games the 3080 is already a beast for anything not ray traced. The savings also is literally less then cost of a new game so it really depends on if a game is bundled as to which is a better value even if they are equal in all benchmarks. Also the associate rewards program saving the 5% could cut the price difference down by $35-40. We have yet to see what the final price will be for the third party AMD cards when they start to offer better coolers and lighting that will impact prices of these cards.
Not if you're eyeballing a 3090. There's a massive price difference.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:23:17
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:23:20
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For me it comes down to the drivers. AMD isn’t worth a small savings in price for drivers that are not as easy to work with. Also who tests a 3080 at 1440p and not 4K? Waiting for independent reviews since also the list of games mostly avoids Ray Tracing.
I added the 4K slide. Ray tracing wasn't really talked about much so one could assume AMD isn't winning on that.
The games they picked might favor AMD and the lack of ray tracing really makes me feel it’s probably not going to go that well in reviews. For non ray traced games the 3080 is already a beast for anything not ray traced. The savings also is literally less then cost of a new game so it really depends on if a game is bundled as to which is a better value even if they are equal in all benchmarks. Also the associate rewards program saving the 5% could cut the price difference down by $35-40. We have yet to see what the final price will be for the third party AMD cards when they start to offer better coolers and lighting that will impact prices of these cards.
Not if you're eyeballing a 3090. There's a massive price difference.
The thing is, if Nvidia doesn't get their crap together - AMD can sell these at basically whatever they want. They're going to sell them based on being the only thing available to buy, bottom line.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:33:39
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I think the 6800 should be 499 but thats just me be nicely sloted with the 3070 price point anyways im really interested in the cpu gpu ram fabric thing looks really interesting
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:40:58
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$999 for the 6900XT which trades blows with the $1,500 3090
$649 for the 6800XT which beats the $699 3080
$579 for the 6800 which beats out the $499 3070
If the benchmarks turn out to be legit - AMD just put one serious hurting on Nvidia. I don't care how big of a fanboy you are, you can't deny that.
Ray tracing performance will obviously be better on RTX cards - but for most people, ray tracing is the least of their concerns.
If AMD has supply like they claim they do, they're about to put a monster hurting on Nvidia in the GPU sales department. Period.
Don't be so quick to assume a victory, never believe first party marketing. While those slides do look very good, they are lacking one important thing: They aren't showing RT performance in any of those slides. That's just raster performance and while yeah, still impressive RT performance is going to be very relevant very soon. If they can't deliver those numbers with DXR effects on, then they will still have work to do. There was a leaked slide showing a Port Royal score and the performance dropped off heavily. If that's accurate well then the numbers don't seem that impressive anymore.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:41:35
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I think the 6800 should be 499 but thats just me be nicely sloted with the 3070 price point anyways im really interested in the cpu gpu ram fabric thing looks really interesting
Ya they should have cut the memory from 16GB to 8GB on the 6800 and made it $499
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 11:58:41
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I think the 6800 should be 499 but thats just me be nicely sloted with the 3070 price point anyways im really interested in the cpu gpu ram fabric thing looks really interesting
Ya they should have cut the memory from 16GB to 8GB on the 6800 and made it $499
As someone who is interested in keeping GPUs for a few years, I would not go with the lower amount of VRAM. I would be heading straight for the 16GBs. Might not be needed now, but in a year or two I think 8GB might get tight at 1440p, and it's already too tight at 4k.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 12:10:28
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I think the 6800 should be 499 but thats just me be nicely sloted with the 3070 price point anyways im really interested in the cpu gpu ram fabric thing looks really interesting
Ya they should have cut the memory from 16GB to 8GB on the 6800 and made it $499
As someone who is interested in keeping GPUs for a few years, I would not go with the lower amount of VRAM. I would be heading straight for the 16GBs. Might not be needed now, but in a year or two I think 8GB might get tight at 1440p, and it's already too tight at 4k.
I hear ya but the 3070 is an 8GB card so it would compete evenly instead of costing more. $80 more for twice the Vram and more performace isn't bad though.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 12:11:03
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Nvidia software features are still very nice compared to AMDs, but if you don't really care about raytracing yet, then AMD's strong performance is definitely worth considering.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 13:09:01
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Who is willing to give AMD $999 for a GPU?
I've got a bridge to sell ya.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 13:23:43
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Who is willing to give AMD $999 for a GPU?
I've got a bridge to sell ya.
If it's good, then I will. I have no particular brand loyalty, it depends on what it looks like. If Intel by some exceedingly unlikely miracle made a GPU that was better than either AMD or Nvidia's offerings, I would buy that. 
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 13:33:43
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Who is willing to give AMD $999 for a GPU?
I've got a bridge to sell ya.
....thousands and thousands of people.... What makes Nvidia the only company worthy of commanding those kinds of prices? AMD is charging you $500 less for Nvidia's same performance if the benchmarks are true. They will sell the hell out of them.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 14:11:39
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NVM the cards.
This series of cards is what we saw with Zen in CPUs, an intro into new tech.
Give it 2 years and these GPUs will be in the same place that AMD is with Intel but with NVIDIA.
The infinity Cache and the direct memory access are game changers same way infinity fabric was on Zen.
Xbox and PS5 use this same direct memory cache system, so it safe to say all/most games will program for this feature.
AMD will lock NVIDIA out of this feature on AMD CPUS.
IMO this is all very exciting.
Buy AMD shares while they're below $80 b/c the market took a 3% dive this week.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 15:00:03
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This is good news in many respects.
1. Low production of 3000 series will give you less buyers remorse.
2. Increase in performance by both competitors and competitive pricing.
3. Lets wait for more reviews and any new releases down the pipe. Already hearing about a 3080 Ti. 3090 Ti?
This is a win-win for consumers in the GPU market.
Unfortunately, I hope the bots/scalpers are limited this time around.
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Re: AMD Reveals The Radeon RX 6000 Series: RDNA2 Starts At The High-End, Coming November 1
2020/10/28 16:41:27
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The problem for me when it comes to AMD is EVGA doesn’t make any.
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