Scribe_X58
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Hi all, I have been searching the forums for this obscure detail that I remember seeing. First, a little background on why I ask: 5 months ago I was having problems with running Corsair Dominator memory at 1600mhz. After learning the X58 and i7, and many many posts here including the overclocking guide; I "fixed" my blue screens with adjustments in Vcore and VTT. Well, it wasn't totally fixed, I still had occasional blue screens every other week or so, always on going into standby though. About 3 weeks back, the blue screens became much more regular, almost every 3-4th day. It's almost like my particular CPU is just ridiculously sensitive to voltage. I finally gave up and clocked the memory down to 1066, I am done with trying to wring extra performance out of hardware. I generally buy highest quality stuff for efficiency and stability, I care little for benchmarks. My machine has been running absolutely flawlessly for 3 weeks now, and as a human behind the keyboard-it doesn't feel any "slower", so I'm happy with it for the first time in 5 months. Now, I am looking at a 3d graphics package (Carrera) and the box recommends "8GB of RAM for the intended experience." I saw a thread on this forum somewhere where people were having issues with 6 sticks of ram vs 3. Obviously, this makes me *very* hesitant to go backwards and have to deal with voltage adjustments etc. My question is simple: will my board require any tweaking if I add 3 more sticks of RAM? If it will require such tweaking, then where/how? My hat is off to the incredible talent and professionalism of the people on this forum. My machine specs should come up in the sig. I will upgrade to a 650W modular PSU along with the 3 more sticks, I think 550W that I currently have is probably just a bit light.
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KMoore4318
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Re:6GB vs 12GB RAM?
Friday, March 19, 2010 3:01 PM
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You could need a slight bump in Vtt, but that would depend on how strong you IMC ( intagrated memory controller) is in your CPU. For 12G and my OC I needed +250, for 6G I ran fine with +200. using 1866 Dominator GT Ram.
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EnochRoot
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Re:6GB vs 12GB RAM?
Friday, March 19, 2010 3:09 PM
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If you are at default or lower clock speeds, you won't have an issue with 6 sticks. It puts extra load on your motherboard memory controller, and requires a little more VTT and DIMM voltage, but not much. For example. I'm running at stock on 1600 ram from mushkin. I put in the stock memory timings, set the DIMM voltage to 1.65 which becomes 1.71 actual. And I put the VTT at 3.75 or +125 VTT in the bios. That's the upper threshold of VTT for my ram from the manufacturer spec's. If you are overclocking, 12GB is hell. 6GB is much better for overclocking than 12GB. With 12GB you take two steps forwards and one step back with each adjustment. Stability constantly suffers. But since you are stock, I wouldn't worry about it. In your case though, I would be concerned that you can't reach 1600 without tanking. If I were in your situation, I would get another 3 sticks of the same model ram, and RMA the ram you have. I'm assuming you want to continue working on your pc. That way you might get a pleasant 1600 mhz surprise when you get your ram back. Good luck sir.
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Re:6GB vs 12GB RAM?
Friday, March 19, 2010 6:34 PM
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If you gona go with 12gb my advise to you, get a set at 1600-1866mhz but with looser timings CL9 ore CL8. So much memory is a lot of stress for the system so higher timings may give you less trouble while overclocking. Stay away from CL7, too tight. Keep in mind 12gb mignt keep you away from 4+ ghz, But if you going for functionality That wouldn't stop you. For Graphic Design It would make not much of a difference 3.8ghz or 4ghz. As far as I understand You are looking at stability rather than extreme performance. One more thing an extra RAM means quite a bit of an increase in power consumption. If you gona add another GPU and overclock that Baby you might start thinking yourself another PSU. 550w is kinda tight. Good luck with any choice.
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Re:6GB vs 12GB RAM?
Friday, March 19, 2010 6:58 PM
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I am kinda hooked on Crucial after a decade of using theirs, I'd also keep voltage as low as possible (low voltage DDR3 seems to be the next step) and look at 4GB x 3 instead. 12GB kit (4GBx3), 240-pin DIMM, DDR3 PC3-10600 memory http://www.crucial.com/st...bpoid=E84C4E70A5CA7304
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Re:6GB vs 12GB RAM?
Friday, March 19, 2010 7:15 PM
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I had a problem with my Corsair Dominator 1600mhz running at rated speeds. Was running 3x2gig sticks and couldn't get them to pass prime blend at stock speeds with my i7 at 4.0, but if I put my 3x1gig Dominator sticks in I could pass blend for 6 hours, so I decided to RMA my 3x2gig Dominator sticks. Sure enough, one(or more) of the sticks were bad and they sent me 3 new ones and now I pass Blend no problem with the 3x2gig sticks @ 1600mhz and my cpu at 4.0. I do have to bump my vtt up +150, which is fairly normal, so make sure you're upping the proper voltages that are needed when running high performance ram.
post edited by Liderc - Friday, March 19, 2010 7:17 PM
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Re:6GB vs 12GB RAM?
Friday, March 19, 2010 7:34 PM
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i7 980X 6-core Gulftowns - from TechReport One other modification in Gulftown will please folks trying to achieve higher memory clocks. With Bloomfield, the maximum memory speed is half the uncore frequency. As a result, Bloomfield's uncore must run at 4GHz in order to accommodate 2GHz DIMMs. Like Lynnfield, Gulftown's uncore only needs to run at 1.5X the max memory speed, so 2GHz memory frequencies are possible with the uncore at 3GHz. The 980X's very low memory access latencies are even more impressive given the fact that its L3 cache is 50% bigger than Bloomfield's. Xeon 5600 series brings six-core chips the chip's memory controller enables support for the low-voltage DDR3 memory now becoming available from major memory makers such as Samsung. The memory controller supports dual DIMMs per channel at 1333MHz clock speeds, too, where Nehalem-EP supported only one per channel. The addition of more buffers should allow for higher memory bandwidth at the same memory frequency,
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