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i just upgraded from E4500 to a Q6600. and i cant overlcok my Q6600,when i do,the bios just goes beeeeeeaaaaappppppp until i close it.and when i do it from the nvidia control panel,a blue screen comes up and then i have to run in safe mode.i need help guys!
my previous E4500 OC was 2.7Ghz and now when i try oc'ing the Q6600 even to 2.5ghz my computer crashes. here are my pc specs
Q6600 @ 2.4ghz
MSI NX8800GT
DDR2 2GB @800MHz (1 stick=1GB)
500 watts @ 28 amps
nvidia EVGA 650i ultra
previosuly i got my computer with the E4500 already overclocked.but when i try doing it my self my computer crashes.
i tried both changing the FSB speed and and my QDR (FSB fequency). heres how my CPU runs
CPU core@ 1.212v
CPU FSB@ 1.4v im to afraid to change my cpu core voltage cause im using stock cooling (the fan that came with CPU and im afrad if ill over heat the CPU) i want to at least OC it to 2.8Ghz. but what do i do when i want to OC it to 2.8Ghz? thanks guys for the help!
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/14 16:51:48
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I'm thinking your PSU may be just a little lacking. Get a 650-750 and that should help. Also, what bios version are you running?
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/14 17:10:03
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I'm thinking your PSU may be just a little lacking. Get a 650-750 and that should help. Also, what bios version are you running?
im not sure but the versoin date is 1/22/08
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/15 06:18:27
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Seems you have the P04 BIOS from the date. Latest is P05 It does not seem to offer much in the way of overclocking but has quite a few fixes for various other things. - Added support for new Penryn dual core CPUs
- Added FSB-overclocking support to the new Penryn FSB-1066/1333 CPUs
- Fixed compatibility issues of OS + ACPI
- Fixed restoring disabled device states & fan speeds after suspend/resume
- Fixed PCI and PCIe compatibility issues
- Added device functionality improvements (includes GPUs & Sound cards)
- Fixed SATA / MAC / USB compatibility issues
- Added support for auto-overvoltaging when overclocking
- Improved nTune compatibility
- Improved memory compatibility
As far as the power supply is that one even 8 pin CPU power capable, by that I mean either 2-4 pin CPU power plugs or a 8 pin power plug. Your going to need all 8 CPU power pins plugged in on the MB to do much of anything with that Q6600.
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/15 14:30:22
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Seems you have the P04 BIOS from the date. Latest is P05 It does not seem to offer much in the way of overclocking but has quite a few fixes for various other things.
- Added support for new Penryn dual core CPUs
- Added FSB-overclocking support to the new Penryn FSB-1066/1333 CPUs
- Fixed compatibility issues of OS + ACPI
- Fixed restoring disabled device states & fan speeds after suspend/resume
- Fixed PCI and PCIe compatibility issues
- Added device functionality improvements (includes GPUs & Sound cards)
- Fixed SATA / MAC / USB compatibility issues
- Added support for auto-overvoltaging when overclocking
- Improved nTune compatibility
- Improved memory compatibility
As far as the power supply is that one even 8 pin CPU power capable, by that I mean either 2-4 pin CPU power plugs or a 8 pin power plug.
Your going to need all 8 CPU power pins plugged in on the MB to do much of anything with that Q6600.
i cant find a P05 bios update. i looked every were and i coulnt find one.do you know where i can get it? and how come before my E4500 was @ 2.7ghz
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/16 22:12:08
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You looked everywhere but the stickies I guess.   http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=203 CD or floppy method recommended. The Windows flashing is a last resort thing and twice or more as risky as the other methods. As for the 2.7 on the E4500 that is a dual core and totally different beast then the quad core. That quad needs a lot more power (amperage). I'll ask again about the 8 pin CPU power plug, you do have all 8 pins plugged in correct, if the PSU even has 8 pin capability that is. Which PSU is it?
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/17 18:25:48
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ATX switching power supply @-POWER model-ADW-50063
and i cant flooppy cause i dont have flooppy drive or a emtpy CD.i awnt to do a windows installataion but the link is brokoen
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/17 21:00:28
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I see what you mean by the .bin link not working. It says they are fixing but wonder if they forgot about it. As for your PSU that is looking to be a danapower/Award brand and from what I've seen it only has 20A on a single 12v rail of which most of that is probably used by your 8800GT alone. Does not leave much power for other things. On top of that the PSU only has a 4 pin CPU (P4) power plug, the Q6600 absolutely needs a 8 pin ATX 12v CPU connector. http://www.dynapowerusa.com/product%20htm/05%29a_ADW-50063.htm You're going to need a new more powerful PSU to run and overclock that Q6600 as it needs the 8 pin power connector (8 pin or 4+4) and also more 12v power then you currently have with that power supply. I'd recommend something with about 40A total on the 12v rail or rails. A good quality 500-600w should do. Don't think you're in the U.S. or Canada so if you need help finding a better PSU let us know what you have available or pick some out and give links and we can look them over and see if they'll work for you.
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/18 18:48:59
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I see what you mean by the .bin link not working. It says they are fixing but wonder if they forgot about it.
As for your PSU that is looking to be a danapower/Award brand and from what I've seen it only has 20A on a single 12v rail of which most of that is probably used by your 8800GT alone. Does not leave much power for other things.
On top of that the PSU only has a 4 pin CPU (P4) power plug, the Q6600 absolutely needs a 8 pin ATX 12v CPU connector.
http://www.dynapowerusa.com/product%20htm/05%29a_ADW-50063.htm
You're going to need a new more powerful PSU to run and overclock that Q6600 as it needs the 8 pin power connector (8 pin or 4+4) and also more 12v power then you currently have with that power supply. I'd recommend something with about 40A total on the 12v rail or rails. A good quality 500-600w should do.
Don't think you're in the U.S. or Canada so if you need help finding a better PSU let us know what you have available or pick some out and give links and we can look them over and see if they'll work for you.
weird,on my PSU specs it says 12V@28amps.my MSI NX8800GT needs 26 amps to run.so im confused.
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/18 21:32:28
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Ok seems there are a couple different versions of that PSU with the same model number sold by different company's. I did find another that said two rails, one @ 14A and the other @ 15A looks like you may have that one or a similar one. Still does not take away from the fact that that PSU is only good for dual core CPU's with only the 4 pin CPU power plug. That quad needs all 8 of the CPU power pins plugged in and that is where your overclocking problems are stemming from, just can't supply enough power thru only 4 pins. Look at the link I gave to the PSU, at the bottom in the illustrations, the second one in is the CPU power plug. You need a PSU with either 2 of those 4 pin CPU connectors or one with a 8 pin connector for that Q6600. Thing to remember is that 8800GT can draw 26A at full draw/power when it is fully being used. Plus that PSU you have is only 68% efficient so it really can only deliver 19A of the rated 28A. So say the video card is drawing say 15A when gaming that does not leave much for all the other things in your system. Hard drives usually need .5A each, fans can be .25A or more each plus everything else. Does not leave much for any CPU let alone a quad does it.  Bottom line is you need a new PSU with more power and the needed 4+4 or 8 pin CPU power connector if you want to fully use that quad and overclock it. Never skimp on the PSU as it is probably the most important thing in your system. Always best to get a little more power then you need as well so the power supply will not have to be working so hard all the time. As I said don't know where your located and this site is only U.S., Canada or China but here are some examples of power supplies that would work, some modular and some not. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341001 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022 There are others as well but these are the brands I'm familiar with and are usually pretty good quality and reliable so that's what I listed. One more to throw in the mix. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/22 14:20:21
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Ok seems there are a couple different versions of that PSU with the same model number sold by different company's.
I did find another that said two rails, one @ 14A and the other @ 15A looks like you may have that one or a similar one.
Still does not take away from the fact that that PSU is only good for dual core CPU's with only the 4 pin CPU power plug. That quad needs all 8 of the CPU power pins plugged in and that is where your overclocking problems are stemming from, just can't supply enough power thru only 4 pins.
Look at the link I gave to the PSU, at the bottom in the illustrations, the second one in is the CPU power plug. You need a PSU with either 2 of those 4 pin CPU connectors or one with a 8 pin connector for that Q6600.
Thing to remember is that 8800GT can draw 26A at full draw/power when it is fully being used. Plus that PSU you have is only 68% efficient so it really can only deliver 19A of the rated 28A.
So say the video card is drawing say 15A when gaming that does not leave much for all the other things in your system. Hard drives usually need .5A each, fans can be .25A or more each plus everything else. Does not leave much for any CPU let alone a quad does it.
Bottom line is you need a new PSU with more power and the needed 4+4 or 8 pin CPU power connector if you want to fully use that quad and overclock it.
Never skimp on the PSU as it is probably the most important thing in your system. Always best to get a little more power then you need as well so the power supply will not have to be working so hard all the time.
As I said don't know where your located and this site is only U.S., Canada or China but here are some examples of power supplies that would work, some modular and some not.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341022
There are others as well but these are the brands I'm familiar with and are usually pretty good quality and reliable so that's what I listed.
One more to throw in the mix.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003
so thats my issue thou? PSU? can the 650i ultra support 20+4+4 pins? or is it 20+8 pins?
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Re:650i ultra and Q6600 overclocking
2009/11/22 17:56:16
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The 20+4 pin ATX connection is for the MB power. The CPU power plug is separate from that and is in back of the CPU, inbetween the CPU and the back of the board. It's a totally separate plug just for powering the CPU and you need all 8 filled for a quad, your PSU only has a 4 pin connector so it can only fill half of that. Here's a pic: Edit: Why are attachments not working.  Try this again. 
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