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2021/05/04 18:02:36 (permalink)
All fans went to full send and locked my main PC up.  Rebooted and Bios Beeps on my Dark Hero VIII as well as the LED on the boards itself pointing to the GPU (VGA).  Far back LED above the last PCiE power cable is solid red. This banger dead?  
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/04 18:09:28 (permalink)
    Specs. Full specs...PSU, RAM, everything.
     

    AMD Ryzen 7900x3d
    Deepcool LT720
    Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX X670 (Might change..don't like this board)
    eVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming (Hybrid kit on it)
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    32GB Kingston 6000 DDR5 (2x16GB) Fury
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    Phanteks P500A Case
     
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/04 18:38:12 (permalink)
    5950X
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    3090 FTW 3 Ultra (latest Precision bios as of a month or so ago)
    ROG Swift 1000w PSU
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    Endgame Xm1, Superlight Pro, Orochi V2, Viper 8k depending on mood
    Steelseries APex TKL Pro (Gmmk Pro on order).
     
    That's not even close to everything but for the sake of my dead GPU its pretty close.  Jokes aside its dead. I threw it in my streaming PC and sadly I get the solid red light.  I threw another GPU into my main rig and it spun right up.
     
    How long do RMA's typically take? 
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/04 20:38:46 (permalink)
    RMA time, no doubt, it is dead
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/04 21:01:08 (permalink)
    I did a cross ship and took 4 days but I had to put down 1800 in collateral until they get my 3090 back

    Will have my new 3090 Friday, water block killed it
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 08:11:32 (permalink)
    Jynxed16
    I did a cross ship and took 4 days but I had to put down 1800 in collateral until they get my 3090 back

    Will have my new 3090 Friday, water block killed it

    How did the water block do it?

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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 08:21:24 (permalink)
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    Jynxed16
    I did a cross ship and took 4 days but I had to put down 1800 in collateral until they get my 3090 back

    Will have my new 3090 Friday, water block killed it

    How did the water block do it?


    Bad installation ? :)
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 08:26:16 (permalink)
    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available


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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 08:36:50 (permalink)
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    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available

    These cards aren't designed for mining (max. load 24hours per day) but it isnt problem for miners. They bought card with warranty and manufacturer replace it with working one when die. Its BIG problem.
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 08:37:45 (permalink)
    Andrew7xX
    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available



    Exactly. Huge issues going on with this right now. I am in line for a EKWB Asus card or Hydro Copper as well. I have been doing this for 10 years and it's my job. No bad installation. It's a real issue.
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 08:56:40 (permalink)
    Jynxed16
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    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available



    Exactly. Huge issues going on with this right now. I am in line for a EKWB Asus card or Hydro Copper as well. I have been doing this for 10 years and it's my job. No bad installation. It's a real issue.



    Graphic card have too much temperature sensitive components (generating heat) vrms, power management ics, coils, capacitors, rams, GPU. Probably cooling system is bad designed (no pads > overheating components)
     
    I think that very good idea to stop miners is implement in nvidia driver miner detector and void warranty for card if detected.
    post edited by explorer232 - 2021/05/05 09:00:46
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 09:57:27 (permalink)
    I have never mined crypto in my life. Not sure why you keep alluding to that.
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 10:32:31 (permalink)
    explorer232
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    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available



    Exactly. Huge issues going on with this right now. I am in line for a EKWB Asus card or Hydro Copper as well. I have been doing this for 10 years and it's my job. No bad installation. It's a real issue.



    Graphic card have too much temperature sensitive components (generating heat) vrms, power management ics, coils, capacitors, rams, GPU. Probably cooling system is bad designed (no pads > overheating components)
     
    I think that very good idea to stop miners is implement in nvidia driver miner detector and void warranty for card if detected.


    Naw you are off base. Why shouldn't we mine when not gaming? It is money for the taking. I waterblocked my card the day I got it. It stays nice and cool while hashing. 74c max VRAM junction temps. Now to the OP, try to RMA via the 3090oc@evga.com email address so you can get a card with the power issues fixed.

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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 11:26:35 (permalink)
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    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available



    Exactly. Huge issues going on with this right now. I am in line for a EKWB Asus card or Hydro Copper as well. I have been doing this for 10 years and it's my job. No bad installation. It's a real issue.



    Graphic card have too much temperature sensitive components (generating heat) vrms, power management ics, coils, capacitors, rams, GPU. Probably cooling system is bad designed (no pads > overheating components)
     
    I think that very good idea to stop miners is implement in nvidia driver miner detector and void warranty for card if detected.


    Naw you are off base. Why shouldn't we mine when not gaming? It is money for the taking. I waterblocked my card the day I got it. It stays nice and cool while hashing. 74c max VRAM junction temps. Now to the OP, try to RMA via the email address so you can get a card with the power issues fixed.




    Ok, so for understandig.
    This is gaming class of graphic cards. So lifetime for electrolitic capacitors is about 2000 hours at 105°C. If you have termal pads on capacitors probably temerature is lower so lifetime is > 2000 hour. But for worse scenario 2000/24 = ~ 83 Days
    Then there is no temperature probe on mosfets , vrm controllers sometimes have it but generally you can see only temp on GPU and it is insufficient.
     
    For mining you need card with industrial standards (military class of components with higher lifetime) for good card lifetime. But if manufacturer is tolering that each miner's card goes to RMA min. one time in warranty period his problem.
     
    post edited by explorer232 - 2021/05/05 11:35:25
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 11:42:29 (permalink)
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    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available



    Exactly. Huge issues going on with this right now. I am in line for a EKWB Asus card or Hydro Copper as well. I have been doing this for 10 years and it's my job. No bad installation. It's a real issue.



    Graphic card have too much temperature sensitive components (generating heat) vrms, power management ics, coils, capacitors, rams, GPU. Probably cooling system is bad designed (no pads > overheating components)
     
    I think that very good idea to stop miners is implement in nvidia driver miner detector and void warranty for card if detected.


    Naw you are off base. Why shouldn't we mine when not gaming? It is money for the taking. I waterblocked my card the day I got it. It stays nice and cool while hashing. 74c max VRAM junction temps. Now to the OP, try to RMA via the email address so you can get a card with the power issues fixed.




    Ok, so for understandig.
    This is gaming class of graphic cards. So lifetime for electrolitic capacitors is about 2000 hours at 105°C. If you have termal pads on capacitors probably temerature is lower so lifetime is > 2000 hour. But for worse scenario 2000/24 = ~ 83 Days
    Then there is no temperature probe on mosfets , vrm controllers sometimes have it but generally you can see only temp on GPU and it is insufficient.
     
    For mining you need card with industrial standards (military class of components with higher lifetime) for good card lifetime. But if manufacturer is tolering that each miner card goes to RMA idealy only one time in warranty period his problem.
     


    While gaming the caps get hotter than they do while mining because of the reduced power offset that we use while mining. Given your math, if you were to game on your card for 4 hours per day, it would be dead in less than 6 months. Remember the only caps that are electrolytic on these boards are filtering caps. They are likely in the mid 30c temp range. 

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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 12:04:59 (permalink)
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    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available



    Exactly. Huge issues going on with this right now. I am in line for a EKWB Asus card or Hydro Copper as well. I have been doing this for 10 years and it's my job. No bad installation. It's a real issue.



    Graphic card have too much temperature sensitive components (generating heat) vrms, power management ics, coils, capacitors, rams, GPU. Probably cooling system is bad designed (no pads > overheating components)
     
    I think that very good idea to stop miners is implement in nvidia driver miner detector and void warranty for card if detected.


    Naw you are off base. Why shouldn't we mine when not gaming? It is money for the taking. I waterblocked my card the day I got it. It stays nice and cool while hashing. 74c max VRAM junction temps. Now to the OP, try to RMA via the email address so you can get a card with the power issues fixed.




    Ok, so for understandig.
    This is gaming class of graphic cards. So lifetime for electrolitic capacitors is about 2000 hours at 105°C. If you have termal pads on capacitors probably temerature is lower so lifetime is > 2000 hour. But for worse scenario 2000/24 = ~ 83 Days
    Then there is no temperature probe on mosfets , vrm controllers sometimes have it but generally you can see only temp on GPU and it is insufficient.
     
    For mining you need card with industrial standards (military class of components with higher lifetime) for good card lifetime. But if manufacturer is tolering that each miner card goes to RMA idealy only one time in warranty period his problem.
     


    While gaming the caps get hotter than they do while mining because of the reduced power offset that we use while mining. Given your math, if you were to game on your card for 4 hours per day, it would be dead in less than 6 months. Remember the only caps that are electrolytic on these boards are filtering caps. They are likely in the mid 30c temp range. 


    Yes, function of the electrolitic capacitor on the board is dc voltage filtering because its part of the DC-DC converters :)  These capacitors have low ESR. Over time ESR rises.
    Then there are ceramic capacitors for noise filtering.
     
    When you will check pcb with thermal camera you can see that "main temperature generators" are GPU and VRMs due to high current.  VRM ICs have termal pad soldered to PCB ground so if VRM is hot then is hot complete PCB and each component on the PCB!
     
     
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/05 12:06:57 (permalink)
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    Quite a few reports of blocks killing 3090s, enough to make me want to leave mine air cooled until the hydro copper is available



    Exactly. Huge issues going on with this right now. I am in line for a EKWB Asus card or Hydro Copper as well. I have been doing this for 10 years and it's my job. No bad installation. It's a real issue.



    Graphic card have too much temperature sensitive components (generating heat) vrms, power management ics, coils, capacitors, rams, GPU. Probably cooling system is bad designed (no pads > overheating components)
     
    I think that very good idea to stop miners is implement in nvidia driver miner detector and void warranty for card if detected.


    Naw you are off base. Why shouldn't we mine when not gaming? It is money for the taking. I waterblocked my card the day I got it. It stays nice and cool while hashing. 74c max VRAM junction temps. Now to the OP, try to RMA via the email address so you can get a card with the power issues fixed.




    Ok, so for understandig.
    This is gaming class of graphic cards. So lifetime for electrolitic capacitors is about 2000 hours at 105°C. If you have termal pads on capacitors probably temerature is lower so lifetime is > 2000 hour. But for worse scenario 2000/24 = ~ 83 Days
    Then there is no temperature probe on mosfets , vrm controllers sometimes have it but generally you can see only temp on GPU and it is insufficient.
     
    For mining you need card with industrial standards (military class of components with higher lifetime) for good card lifetime. But if manufacturer is tolering that each miner card goes to RMA idealy only one time in warranty period his problem.
     


    While gaming the caps get hotter than they do while mining because of the reduced power offset that we use while mining. Given your math, if you were to game on your card for 4 hours per day, it would be dead in less than 6 months. Remember the only caps that are electrolytic on these boards are filtering caps. They are likely in the mid 30c temp range. 


    Yes, function of the electrolitic capacitor on the board is dc voltage filtering because its part of the DC-DC converters :)  These capacitors have low ESR. Over time ESR rises.
    Then there are ceramic capacitors for noise filtering.
     
    When you will check pcb with thermal camera you can see that "main temperature generators" are GPU and VRMs due to high current.  VRM ICs have termal pad soldered to PCB ground so if VRM is hot then is hot complete PCB and each component on the PCB!
     
     


    But mining is a much smaller load on the card than gaming. So go make some money and stop being afraid!

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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/06 08:01:09 (permalink)
    NEVER EVER WILL I BUY EVGA AGAIN!!! THIS COMPANY IS A COMPLETE MESS!!!
    - Not only they deliver HIGH END (and VERY EXPENSIVE) 3090 FTW3 ULTRA boards out of power consumption standard specs due to a very poor and low cost HW design moreover not properly tested...
    but !
    - Their European Consumer support is a COMPLETE MESS !!! They are even not able to handle the RMA properly and my parcel is sucked at the German entry customs for many days waiting for EVGA Europe paperwork acceptance !!!!
    NEVER EVER WILL I BUY EVGA AGAIN!!! 
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/06 08:03:32 (permalink)
    lucasfrance
    NEVER EVER WILL I BUY EVGA AGAIN!!! THIS COMPANY IS A COMPLETE MESS!!!
    - Not only they deliver HIGH END (and VERY EXPENSIVE) 3090 FTW3 ULTRA boards out of power consumption standard specs due to a very poor and low cost HW design moreover not properly tested...
    but !
    - Their European Consumer support is a COMPLETE MESS !!! They are even not able to handle the RMA properly and my parcel is sucked at the German entry customs for many days waiting for EVGA Europe paperwork acceptance !!!!
    NEVER EVER WILL I BUY EVGA AGAIN!!! 


    Yikes! That is understandable. I heard they are very expensive over there too so that is another reason I would choose a different brand in Europe. In the USA, they have kind of become the budget friendly brand during the tariff debacle.

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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/05/09 08:34:50 (permalink)
    rip, hope u get rma
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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/06/07 23:12:25 (permalink)


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    Re: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Dead Dead 2021/06/08 01:29:22 (permalink)
    That's no good
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