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2020/09/25 21:56:41 (permalink)
Just got my EVGA 3080 XC3 in today.  Full DDU uninstall when replacing the card.  I updated the latest firmware that was released in X1.  Went to 3DMark to run some Time Spy and Port Royal.  My temps are going all the way up to 82C and fans to 2200rpm according to X1.  All settings including fan curve etc. are set to default.  I decided to try a game instead of the benchmarks to see if there was any difference.  Warzone is also hitting 82C and fans running at 2200rpm which is extremely loud.  It's also idling on the desktop at 56c.  Running a 8700k, 1440p resolution, in a Meshify C case.  No thermal issues with previous GPU.  Thanks!
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/25 22:05:12 (permalink)
    That don't sound good. :(


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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/25 22:13:08 (permalink)
    What happens if you uncheck the box for Fan Curve Control?
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/25 22:27:06 (permalink)
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    What happens if you uncheck the box for Fan Curve Control?




    Fan curve control is off by default.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/25 22:31:29 (permalink)
    Mine has similar idle temps in a Corsair Obsidian Airflow ATX Full case, but then again I don't have fans at the top and bottom of my case (never had temp problems before, so I didn't need extra fans, but I am rectifying by getting three 140mm Corsair fans this weekend). For now, I am going to use the Fan Curve with Precision X1 until I get my new fans put in and try to keep my idles below 45.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/25 22:50:10 (permalink)
    Only thing I can say is that it depends on many factors, including your case (fans, airflow, if it's corned in a shelf with no airflow, etc) and ambiant temp. When removing front panel of my pure base 500 and opening window to get ambiant around 20 / 22 (I was around 25 +/- 1°C before) my 1080 FTW went from 80/85 to 70/75°C, with 1750rpm. As for idle temps I removed the 0rpm fan thing and set a custom curve where it spins around 800rpm (slow enough it doesn't bother me) and keeps the card around or below 40°C. From the reviews testing I saw, near 80°C (just below or over) should be normal in a case. Fan RPM seems fast / loud at 2200RPM though. Jayztwocents had 72°C on 22°C ambiant, on a test bench, with around 1500 rpm with default fan curves, IIRC. In a case well ventilated and thought, you can add a couple degrees so many just shy to 77 / 78°C. You said your previous card had no issues, that obviously would depend on the model, the brand (the cooler used for example), power consumption / tdp, etc. 
     
    XC3 has a less beefier cooler than FTW3 that means less radiator cooling and therefore more fan speed to keep up, that's why I canceled my XC3 order and will go for the FTW3 as I was concerned with temps too hot / fan speed too high :/ 
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 04:52:04 (permalink)
    ShrpTln
    Just got my EVGA 3080 XC3 in today.  Full DDU uninstall when replacing the card.  I updated the latest firmware that was released in X1.  Went to 3DMark to run some Time Spy and Port Royal.  My temps are going all the way up to 82C and fans to 2200rpm according to X1.  All settings including fan curve etc. are set to default.  I decided to try a game instead of the benchmarks to see if there was any difference.  Warzone is also hitting 82C and fans running at 2200rpm which is extremely loud.  It's also idling on the desktop at 56c.  Running a 8700k, 1440p resolution, in a Meshify C case.  No thermal issues with previous GPU.  Thanks!


    I'm curious, as I will be installing my new [to be acquired] EVGA video card into my Meshify C case.  Can you tell me what the front of your case has for a "case fan" configuration?  As for me, I'm running two Corsair Magnetic Levitation 140mm case fans mounted at the front and low positions, which will be blowers into the case from outside fresh air.  These two 140mm fans will be directly supplying the "intake" side of the EVGA video card with fresh external air.  Is your two front fan configuration similar to mine?

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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 07:34:16 (permalink)
    I would try @ing jacob on twitter, Ive seen him responding to these types of problems quite frequently
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 08:28:02 (permalink)
    Is there anyone here with this card to share what thermals they are experiencing?
     
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    Just got my EVGA 3080 XC3 in today.  Full DDU uninstall when replacing the card.  I updated the latest firmware that was released in X1.  Went to 3DMark to run some Time Spy and Port Royal.  My temps are going all the way up to 82C and fans to 2200rpm according to X1.  All settings including fan curve etc. are set to default.  I decided to try a game instead of the benchmarks to see if there was any difference.  Warzone is also hitting 82C and fans running at 2200rpm which is extremely loud.  It's also idling on the desktop at 56c.  Running a 8700k, 1440p resolution, in a Meshify C case.  No thermal issues with previous GPU.  Thanks!


    I'm curious, as I will be installing my new [to be acquired] EVGA video card into my Meshify C case.  Can you tell me what the front of your case has for a "case fan" configuration?  As for me, I'm running two Corsair Magnetic Levitation 140mm case fans mounted at the front and low positions, which will be blowers into the case from outside fresh air.  These two 140mm fans will be directly supplying the "intake" side of the EVGA video card with fresh external air.  Is your two front fan configuration similar to mine?




    Two Fractal fans at the front of the case for intake, one exhaust.
     
    jmehalik
    I would try @ing jacob on twitter, Ive seen him responding to these types of problems quite frequently




    I've spoke with Jacob and waiting for a follow up email.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 08:34:55 (permalink)
    A simple test to see if case airflow is your issue:
     
    Take the side of the case off. If temps drop significantly, your case airflow isn't good enough for the GPU temperatures that you are looking for (these 3080/3090s use a lot more watts than the last gen - and that means more heat). A different fan setup may help, more / better fans, or a new case with a fan on the side of the case pulling cool air in (it really helps, and I notice when my two case side fans are turned off, even with my GPU under an AiO water cooler).
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 08:39:18 (permalink)
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    A simple test to see if case airflow is your issue:
     
    Take the side of the case off. If temps drop significantly, your case airflow isn't good enough for the GPU temperatures that you are looking for (these 3080/3090s use a lot more watts than the last gen - and that means more heat). A different fan setup may help, more / better fans, or a new case with a fan on the side of the case pulling cool air in (it really helps, and I notice when my two case side fans are turned off, even with my GPU under an AiO water cooler).




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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 10:21:55 (permalink)
    arestavo
    A simple test to see if case airflow is your issue:
     
    Take the side of the case off. If temps drop significantly, your case airflow isn't good enough for the GPU temperatures that you are looking for (these 3080/3090s use a lot more watts than the last gen - and that means more heat). A different fan setup may help, more / better fans, or a new case with a fan on the side of the case pulling cool air in (it really helps, and I notice when my two case side fans are turned off, even with my GPU under an AiO water cooler).




    I took the side panel off and increased both intake fans to full speed in the BIOS.  Still hitting 80c and 2000rpm on GPU fans.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 10:41:57 (permalink)
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    arestavo
    A simple test to see if case airflow is your issue:
     
    Take the side of the case off. If temps drop significantly, your case airflow isn't good enough for the GPU temperatures that you are looking for (these 3080/3090s use a lot more watts than the last gen - and that means more heat). A different fan setup may help, more / better fans, or a new case with a fan on the side of the case pulling cool air in (it really helps, and I notice when my two case side fans are turned off, even with my GPU under an AiO water cooler).




    I took the side panel off and increased both intake fans to full speed in the BIOS.  Still hitting 80c and 2000rpm on GPU fans.


    Yikes I haven't see anyone else say they are hitting those temps.  Maybe you have a bad thermal paste application under the heatsink?
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 10:54:08 (permalink)
    I'm hitting 78 under 99% load sustained but at 2000 rpm, which is audible, but not loud. I have an s100 Thermaltake with 3 intake fans and a top mounted exhaust rad. It's not great, but acceptable, although if I could have gotten a TUF I would have gotten that instead.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 10:55:43 (permalink)
    That's about what my xc3 ultra did out of the box in my case. I adjusted the fan curve to be much more aggressive now it tops out at 72c under load. The high idle temp you're seeing is the fans shouldn't even spin until it hits a certain temperature, so if it's not under load it'll be completely silent. My fan curve changed that so now it's sitting about 40% fan speed at idle and 36c right now. Maybe try increasing the temperature target or something. So long as it's not throttling it should be fine. 
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 11:14:59 (permalink)
    Crank the fans to 100% during gaming or benches and see what the temps are.

    Let the fans do what they are designed to do.

    Use a more aggressive fan profile. Have the fans ramp up way early. Dont let the temps get high and then expect the fans to kick on then and be able to do something about the heat. Give the card some help and have them hit atleast 75% right under load.. and then climb to more around 60c.

    Wear headphones when gaming.

    I had my fans set at like 40/50% at idle and crank to like 75-80% at 40c as it would hit with a load. Then 100% at 50c.

    Temp on air I believe would end up at like 53-54c I believe on a 2080ti ftw3.

    Ya want quiet ya need water cooling.

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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 11:19:40 (permalink)
    70c-80c+ range is fine for air cooled GPU temps.  It's quite normal actually.  There's some confusion and high expectations because there are some with better air flow, cooler ambient air and sometimes on Hybrids that some believe they should be getting similar temps.  
     
    If you're looking to get cooler temps, you need better cooling.  It could be a variety of things like a internal air flow, cable management, case configuration or environment, room ambient, etc and of course, a higher powered GPU.
     
    I would keep an eye out in the coming months for a Hybrid cooler once they release those if you're looking for thermal improvements, presuming you have room for a 240mm rad.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 11:20:30 (permalink)
    One thing to remember is that you dont want to chock the GPU fans. They want to eat alot of air but your intake may not be supplying enough air for it.

    Have your case fans cranking.

    So crank them all at 100% and see what happens.

    More in then out!

    Heat will be pushed out the exhaust fans and small openings.


    If you have a rad on the cpu.. make it a intake fan. But make sure it's running hard all the time so it can supply air to your gpu. Have good quiet fans for it that run like 100%.

    Most of the time the CPU wont be running that hard during gaming or benches. So those fans may be running too slow if you got a fan profile set to them from cpu temp.

    Guess best to have a profile for all fans set to kill when gaming.

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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 12:31:03 (permalink)
    my xc3 gaming ran from 68-74c max when gaming on COD (1440p, max/RTX on, AMD 3600). 
     
    idle was always a little iffy since fans stop running most the time. it varies between like 45c-60c
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 12:56:24 (permalink)
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    That's about what my xc3 ultra did out of the box in my case. I adjusted the fan curve to be much more aggressive now it tops out at 72c under load. The high idle temp you're seeing is the fans shouldn't even spin until it hits a certain temperature, so if it's not under load it'll be completely silent. My fan curve changed that so now it's sitting about 40% fan speed at idle and 36c right now. Maybe try increasing the temperature target or something. So long as it's not throttling it should be fine. 



    What fan speed are you running to stay at 72c under load?  Case and fan setup?
     
    AHowes
    One thing to remember is that you dont want to chock the GPU fans. They want to eat alot of air but your intake may not be supplying enough air for it.

    Have your case fans cranking.

    So crank them all at 100% and see what happens.

    More in then out!

    Heat will be pushed out the exhaust fans and small openings.


    If you have a rad on the cpu.. make it a intake fan. But make sure it's running hard all the time so it can supply air to your gpu. Have good quiet fans for it that run like 100%.

    Most of the time the CPU wont be running that hard during gaming or benches. So those fans may be running too slow if you got a fan profile set to them from cpu temp.

    Guess best to have a profile for all fans set to kill when gaming.



    I have two 140mm intake fans and my case is the Meshify C so it should be getting adequate airflow...I've not ran into a problem with my previous GPU's.  My cable management is also very good, there is nothing obstructing the airflow.  CPU cooler is a Be Quiet Dark Rock 4 so no RAD.
     
    I went ahead and cranked the case fans AND the GPU fans to 100% speed.  Ran Time Spy for about 10 minutes and I'm still getting to 76c at stock clocks.  Having to run all these fans at 100% to get this is not alright.
     
     
     
    post edited by ShrpTln - 2020/09/26 13:00:34
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 13:00:04 (permalink)
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    That's about what my xc3 ultra did out of the box in my case. I adjusted the fan curve to be much more aggressive now it tops out at 72c under load. The high idle temp you're seeing is the fans shouldn't even spin until it hits a certain temperature, so if it's not under load it'll be completely silent. My fan curve changed that so now it's sitting about 40% fan speed at idle and 36c right now. Maybe try increasing the temperature target or something. So long as it's not throttling it should be fine. 



    What fan speed are you running to stay at 72c under load?  Case and fan setup?
     
    AHowes
    One thing to remember is that you dont want to chock the GPU fans. They want to eat alot of air but your intake may not be supplying enough air for it.

    Have your case fans cranking.

    So crank them all at 100% and see what happens.

    More in then out!

    Heat will be pushed out the exhaust fans and small openings.


    If you have a rad on the cpu.. make it a intake fan. But make sure it's running hard all the time so it can supply air to your gpu. Have good quiet fans for it that run like 100%.

    Most of the time the CPU wont be running that hard during gaming or benches. So those fans may be running too slow if you got a fan profile set to them from cpu temp.

    Guess best to have a profile for all fans set to kill when gaming.



    I have two 140mm intake fans and my case is the Meshify C so it should be getting adequate airflow...I've not ran into a problem with my previous GPU's.  My cable management is also very good, there is nothing obstructing the airflow.  CPU cooler is a Be Quiet Dark Rock 4 so no RAD.
     
    I went ahead and cranked the case fans AND the GPU fans to 100% speed.  Ran Time Spy for about 10 minutes and I'm still getting to 76c at stock clocks.
     
     
     


    At that load fans are about 100%, sitting in an nzxt h500 with a few noctua nf f12's 2 in 2 out
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 15:42:09 (permalink)
    ShrpTln
    Just got my EVGA 3080 XC3 in today.  Full DDU uninstall when replacing the card.  I updated the latest firmware that was released in X1.  Went to 3DMark to run some Time Spy and Port Royal.  My temps are going all the way up to 82C and fans to 2200rpm according to X1.  All settings including fan curve etc. are set to default.  I decided to try a game instead of the benchmarks to see if there was any difference.  Warzone is also hitting 82C and fans running at 2200rpm which is extremely loud.  It's also idling on the desktop at 56c.  Running a 8700k, 1440p resolution, in a Meshify C case.  No thermal issues with previous GPU.  Thanks!


    That seems a good bit higher than what the reviewers have been finding.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 16:42:08 (permalink)
    My tweaked curve, getting fans to ramp to around 80% is also getting me around 72. It's audible not not terribly loud. 100% is very loud though. But your card might have an issue with contact maybe?
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 16:54:09 (permalink)
    Reviewers are showing like, low 60's. That's significantly higher.

     
     
     

     


     

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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 17:20:05 (permalink)
    I also believe there is an issue with contact or something with my unit specifically.  I have experienced a few crashes as well.  Not sure if related to the cap issues going around, bad drivers, or what.  It sucks, but I'm pretty over it at this point.  Guess I'll just return it while I can and wait until all of this gets sorted out.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/09/26 17:38:00 (permalink)
    Low 60's for this card? Where?
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/10/16 10:57:45 (permalink)
    Wrong thread.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/10/16 12:11:01 (permalink)
    I have the same card.  My temps were not great with default settings.... 75c give or take a few degrees at load.  But I changes to a custom fan curve in Precision X-1 and now my temps are very good.   30c Idle, 70c max load.  Fan stays pretty quiet.
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/10/16 12:16:03 (permalink)
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    I have the same card.  My temps were not great with default settings.... 75c give or take a few degrees at load.  But I changes to a custom fan curve in Precision X-1 and now my temps are very good.   30c Idle, 70c max load.  Fan stays pretty quiet.




    I could live with 70C max. What kind of case are you running? Picks of setup?
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    Re: 3080 XC3 Thermals 2020/10/16 12:24:57 (permalink)
    Lian Li Lancool II Case.  Push Pull airflow.  Two intake fans front, one intake bottom.  One outflow back, and two outflow top.  Pull on front of CPU, push out toward back fan on back of CPU.

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