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2021/08/11 21:02:04 (permalink)
Hello everyone I installed my 3080ti FTW3 last night and ran into multiple pc reboots while gaming. All temps are fine on the cpu and gpu. I replaced my evga 1080ti founders edition and never had any issues with it. I'm currently running a Seasonic Prime Titanium 850 PSU purchased in 2016. I'm looking to see if anyone thinks its a PSU issue or a software/driver issue or even a faulty card. It only happens when gaming. I also even tried to under clock the power target in x1. All drivers, BIOS and card firmware up to date. BAR enabled.
 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 21:32:46 (permalink)
Stock or overclocking? 
Also have you tried running a gpu stress program like occt or furmark? to see if you can reproduce the behavior.  
I would use a program like hwinfo64 to read what you motherboard sees your PSU 12v, 5V, and 3.3V rails doing while under load.
 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 21:37:44 (permalink)
Stock right now, waiting for my EK block to come in the mail. 
The only test I have run is the Heaven Benchmark, and it handled it no problem.
I've had Hwinfo64 up while gaming and I can never catch what the 12v, 5v and 3.3 rails are doing.
 
The pc just shuts completely down and reboots.
I've had some sessions where it is fine for hours others where its back to back. 
 
I have read my older seasonic prime can't handle the 3080 ti. I plan on running the 3080 ti on the oc bios once I get the water block.
 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 21:58:52 (permalink)
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Stock right now, waiting for my EK block to come in the mail. 
The only test I have run is the Heaven Benchmark, and it handled it no problem.
I've had Hwinfo64 up while gaming and I can never catch what the 12v, 5v and 3.3 rails are doing.
 
The pc just shuts completely down and reboots.
I've had some sessions where it is fine for hours others where its back to back. 
 
I have read my older seasonic prime can't handle the 3080 ti. I plan on running the 3080 ti on the oc bios once I get the water block.

 
Both the gpu and cpu are stock? If not run the whole system at stock. Try using occt or furmark to test with. What I would personally do is find another PSU say 1000-1200 watts, but only If you can pay msrp for it. Then  if everything turns out fine with the new PSU I would RMA the 850 back to seasonic.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 22:01:40 (permalink)
Yes,
Thanks for the time Safan, Appreciate the help.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 22:32:20 (permalink)
If you're putting the power limit below 100% and the same thing is happening it isn't your PSU. Try putting to to 60-70%, what happens? 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 22:38:46 (permalink)
I will try it at 70% and report back.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 23:20:52 (permalink)
update, I downloaded OCCT. Ran the power test for my PSU and replicated what has been happening to me with power target at 100% Ran it again at 70% and it does not reboot.
post edited by napz0r - 2021/08/11 23:28:00
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 23:30:54 (permalink)
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update, I downloaded OCCT. Ran the power test for my PSU and replicated what has been happening to me with power target at 100% Ran it again at 70% and it does not reboot.




Test ranges between 70% and 100%. See if 95% does and work backwards.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/11 23:39:07 (permalink)
update, set target to 80% and replicated the reboot. Again not at 70%
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 00:01:34 (permalink)
Could be a PSU related issue. You might be tripping the OCP or something.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 00:04:30 (permalink)
That's what I'm trying to figure out. However I came here because people here are far more knowledgeable than I with this stuff. And I would rather not throw money at the problem. You guys think I should get a bigger psu or RMA seasonic.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 00:16:39 (permalink)
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That's what I'm trying to figure out. However I came here because people here are far more knowledgeable than I with this stuff. And I would rather not throw money at the problem. You guys think I should get a bigger psu or RMA seasonic.



First I would like to insure you have at least two separate 12V coming from the power supply plugged into the GPU. I that is so you will be needing to replace the unit either way.  The reason I would suggest you buy a new PSU is so during the seasonic 850 watt RMA you are not stuck waiting for the replacement to come. You can always test the replacement when you get it and sell it on the internet if the replacement checks out.
post edited by safan80 - 2021/08/12 00:18:27
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 00:35:07 (permalink)
I would say it is most likely the psu.
Try a stronger one and the reboots are gone.
post edited by HeinzNeu - 2021/08/12 04:08:33

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 00:40:42 (permalink)
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That's what I'm trying to figure out. However I came here because people here are far more knowledgeable than I with this stuff. And I would rather not throw money at the problem. You guys think I should get a bigger psu or RMA seasonic.



RMA with seasonic. 850W should be enough to handle the card. There were reports of seasonic PSUs having their OCP tripped due to transient spikes from 3xxx series cards around launch time. Seasonic should be able to replace the PSU with a newer revision.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 00:52:38 (permalink)
I bought myself a seasonic prime px 850 and was checking the webs - i've read a week ago through some threads that the old seasonics had some *not up to the task (high power spikes)* transistors in the secondary stage of the PSU. I would contact Seasonic as they replaced it for the other guys.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 06:49:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2021/08/21 11:52:48
Sounds just like everyone elses' issues - where the higher than usual voltage spikes of these 30xx series cards fault out the PSU OCP .
 An 850 W Titanium rating should be fine, but we've been reading for months on here about how the spiking these cards cause is the issue.
 RMA your PSU  or get a 1000W  ... 

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 08:16:40 (permalink)
Yup, my bet is on the PSU as well, I had some similar issues with rebooting while gaming which all stopped when I switched to a new PSU.
 
Funny thing was that it never rebooted when I used Prime95 as stress software for the PSU, only while gaming.
 
Not sure if your power supply is monorail, my faulty one had 4 rails and I assumed that it did not meet the power requirement at critical time on a certain rail, and caused the reboot.
 
Best of luck, and keep us posted.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 08:20:21 (permalink)
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Stock right now, waiting for my EK block to come in the mail. 
The only test I have run is the Heaven Benchmark, and it handled it no problem.
I've had Hwinfo64 up while gaming and I can never catch what the 12v, 5v and 3.3 rails are doing.
 
The pc just shuts completely down and reboots.
I've had some sessions where it is fine for hours others where its back to back. 
 
I have read my older seasonic prime can't handle the 3080 ti. I plan on running the 3080 ti on the oc bios once I get the water block.

 
Both the gpu and cpu are stock? If not run the whole system at stock. Try using occt or furmark to test with. What I would personally do is find another PSU say 1000-1200 watts, but only If you can pay msrp for it. Then  if everything turns out fine with the new PSU I would RMA the 850 back to seasonic.


Good advice, personally I wouldn't run a 3080 Ti with anything less than 1200W, and Platinum and above at that.

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 08:25:13 (permalink)
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Stock right now, waiting for my EK block to come in the mail. 
The only test I have run is the Heaven Benchmark, and it handled it no problem.
I've had Hwinfo64 up while gaming and I can never catch what the 12v, 5v and 3.3 rails are doing.
 
The pc just shuts completely down and reboots.
I've had some sessions where it is fine for hours others where its back to back. 
 
I have read my older seasonic prime can't handle the 3080 ti. I plan on running the 3080 ti on the oc bios once I get the water block.

 
Both the gpu and cpu are stock? If not run the whole system at stock. Try using occt or furmark to test with. What I would personally do is find another PSU say 1000-1200 watts, but only If you can pay msrp for it. Then  if everything turns out fine with the new PSU I would RMA the 850 back to seasonic.


Good advice, personally I wouldn't run a 3080 Ti with anything less than 1200W, and Platinum and above at that.


I'm using a 1000W 80+ titanium PSU for my 3080 Ti. Still have headroom.


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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 08:31:19 (permalink)
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Stock right now, waiting for my EK block to come in the mail. 
The only test I have run is the Heaven Benchmark, and it handled it no problem.
I've had Hwinfo64 up while gaming and I can never catch what the 12v, 5v and 3.3 rails are doing.
 
The pc just shuts completely down and reboots.
I've had some sessions where it is fine for hours others where its back to back. 
 
I have read my older seasonic prime can't handle the 3080 ti. I plan on running the 3080 ti on the oc bios once I get the water block.

 
Both the gpu and cpu are stock? If not run the whole system at stock. Try using occt or furmark to test with. What I would personally do is find another PSU say 1000-1200 watts, but only If you can pay msrp for it. Then  if everything turns out fine with the new PSU I would RMA the 850 back to seasonic.


Good advice, personally I wouldn't run a 3080 Ti with anything less than 1200W, and Platinum and above at that.


I'm using a 1000W 80+ titanium PSU for my 3080 Ti. Still have headroom.
the efficiency is probably towing the line here, nevertheless great info 👍
post edited by Governator - 2021/08/12 08:33:28

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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 10:12:52 (permalink)
Thanks for all the great info guys, I emailed seasonic to start an RMA. And yes I have 3 separate 8 pins powering the card.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 11:15:09 (permalink)
Also just ordered a super flower 1000 Platinum SE from newegg. I'll rma my seasonic and pray the super flower fixes the problem.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 11:18:08 (permalink)
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Also just ordered a super flower 1000 Platinum SE from newegg. I'll rma my seasonic and pray the super flower fixes the problem.

Hopefully it does. It definitely pays to have a spare handy, but I get that it’s not always cost effective to have one. Also, it’s not always easy to obtain a quality high-wattage PSU these days. Anyway, good luck!


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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/12 11:27:19 (permalink)
Thank you, ill update this thread once I get it installed.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/14 17:23:34 (permalink)
Update: I set my nvidia control panel to debug mode and the power to 100% and the card is no longer causing system reboots, The 1000w psu will be here wed. Any ideas why the card no longer causes a system restart? I know debug mode forces nvidia stock clocks and disables any overclocks from the gpu. Is this now an RMA issue or possibly a driver issue? Any ideas guys??
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/14 17:51:45 (permalink)
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Also just ordered a super flower 1000 Platinum SE from newegg. I'll rma my seasonic and pray the super flower fixes the problem.



PSU so nice I bought it twice! OG Leadex at a good price, plenty of cables and ports.  Seems to work on a 3080 Ti FTW3 just fine, fingers crossed.  Had similar shutoff problems to you with a 1300w Prime Gold.
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/14 17:54:08 (permalink)
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Update: I set my nvidia control panel to debug mode and the power to 100% and the card is no longer causing system reboots, The 1000w psu will be here wed. Any ideas why the card no longer causes a system restart? I know debug mode forces nvidia stock clocks and disables any overclocks from the gpu. Is this now an RMA issue or possibly a driver issue? Any ideas guys??




Not sure what the stock clocks and power limit are on the 3080 Ti Ref or FE, but you should be able to easily read how the card is running as far as clocks, power and vcore using anything (GPU-Z, HWiNFO, X1, AB).
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/14 18:01:51 (permalink)
Yeah bud seems a lot of seasonic PSU's cant handle the transient power spikes of this card. It's amazing how far gpu tech has come. 
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Re: 3080 Ti FTW3 PC rebooting while gaming 2021/08/21 08:55:46 (permalink)
update: 1000 watt psu fixed the issue. 
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