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2020/12/19 14:43:45 (permalink)
After playing Cyberpunk 2077 for about 15 minutes, my computer crashed. When I tried to reboot, I noticed a single red light on my 3080 FTW3 Ultra which I just bought two weeks ago. I replugged everything in with no help. I've read that this may be a common problem and just wanted to make sure that my issue was counted/recorded. My rig is:
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I know my power supply is on the bare minimum but I also have absolutely no overclock on my system. Also, I've seen the problem with much higher PSU's. I tried to contact technical support but have to wait till Monday apparently.

UPDATE: I went to microcenter this morning to get the card tested. It is definitely the card which is broken and nothing else inside my pc. The manager was nice enough to fill out a voucher for me and will give me a call if they get any 3080s in so I can come swap mine out. Seems better than an RMA since it is potentially faster AND I can get a different brand that is hopefully more reliable.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 14:44:25 (permalink)
    Rma time.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 14:45:36 (permalink)
    I think I have to wait till Monday to get help first in order to RMA unfortunately. I have no spare card meaning I can't get any work done till this is fixed. Extremely unfortunate.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 15:16:59 (permalink)
    I've got a similar system with a 3700x and Asrock X570 Taichi and EVGA 3080 FTW3. With power slider up to 105, the card pulls 400 watts and the whole system peak while playing cyberpunk is 590-600 watts.
     
    Your psu is good.
     
    How many hours of gaming did your card go through total?
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 15:19:39 (permalink)
    My card probably went through 15-20 hours max. This was mainly Warzone. I hope yours continues to run great!
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 15:46:26 (permalink)
    You guys using a ups for your rigs?  
     
    I suspect the cards are dying due to the stress of the more demanding games.  EVGA is going to have a ton of replacements.  Unless this is sonehting that they can find the cause of and either do a specific recall/replace or a firmware fix.

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 15:54:25 (permalink)
    Great customer service/rma means nothing if the cards break easily.
     
    This is akin to all the cheap items from amazon selling from china. Yeah, they have great return policy, but that just gives companies more leash to put out lousy products.
     
    I've gone through 3 different hdmi 2.1 cables from Amazon that don't work with hdmi 2.1. Free and easy returns is why companies lie like this. Price it high and those that don't notice won't return it. I don't want this to derail the thread, but you get my gist of why I mention this.
     
    And I don't mean EVGA is doing this because we don't know the cause, but free and easy rma provides a long leash for lackluster products.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 16:04:04 (permalink)
    My FTW3 also died after being playing for a while, received on Friday, been testing during the whole Saturday and it just died on me, this time is 3 red lights instead of one as everyone is reporting.
    In my case there was even a small spark, luckily it didnt affect any of my other components!

    I do have a 1500wts power supply so that was not the case, seems a recurrent issue with these cards.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 16:26:34 (permalink)
    I'm sorry to hear that. I've read on a different thread that somebody sent in their red lipped card that died and received a black lipped card back. Perhaps this newer version is less likely to have issues??
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 16:38:20 (permalink)
    It doesn't make much difference red/black, card that died here has black, so is friend of mine he got days ago (black lip) died day before yesterday.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 16:43:47 (permalink)
    Mune had black lips too, it could be a bad batch? Lets hope we hear from EVGA soon

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 17:02:26 (permalink)
    Where have you been? this has been happening since the launch and nothing has changed
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 17:17:26 (permalink)
    Good to know (about the black vs red lip being no difference). I guess I just have to hope that evga does something about this. What's the point of getting another card if it'll just brick again? Has anybody had a replacement brick?
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 17:19:26 (permalink)
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    Good to know (about the black vs red lip being no difference). I guess I just have to hope that evga does something about this. What's the point of getting another card if it'll just brick again? Has anybody had a replacement brick?

    You mean right from Get-Go or after RMA. My nephew had 3x 3090 RMA'd until he decided to gave up
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 17:21:02 (permalink)
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    Good to know (about the black vs red lip being no difference). I guess I just have to hope that evga does something about this. What's the point of getting another card if it'll just brick again? Has anybody had a replacement brick?

    You mean right from Get-Go or after RMA


    Sorry, I meant after RMA. Or are the RMA's a fixed solution?
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 17:23:47 (permalink)
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    Good to know (about the black vs red lip being no difference). I guess I just have to hope that evga does something about this. What's the point of getting another card if it'll just brick again? Has anybody had a replacement brick?

    You mean right from Get-Go or after RMA


    Sorry, I meant after RMA. Or are the RMA's a fixed solution?

    No it’s not fixed. Mine died after 15min being ON, my nephew had 3x 3090 died within 2-3 weeks, friend of mined died few days ago after over a month and friend from work (black lip) died day before yesterday after week
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 17:28:47 (permalink)
    I DNL Cyberpunk last night but afraid to run it if its a FTW3 KILLER !!!
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 17:29:11 (permalink)
    That really sucks. I should have read up and got a different card. I got mine from microcenter. I'd take it back there but I don't think they'd have a replacement for me.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 19:41:28 (permalink)
    If the purported 'global product management' staff remain resolute in not doing their job, by acknowledging these daily failures in any capacity(including denying an issue exists), the PCB changes in the next series of cards versus this one will serve as a makeshift announcement as to what the issue was.

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 21:16:49 (permalink)
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    If the purported 'global product management' staff remain resolute in not doing their job, by acknowledging these daily failures in any capacity(including denying an issue exists), the PCB changes in the next series of cards versus this one will serve as a makeshift announcement as to what the issue was.


    In the next series of cards? Do you mean the ti's? The 4000's? Or simply the next batch of 3080's?
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 21:43:39 (permalink)
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    If the purported 'global product management' staff remain resolute in not doing their job, by acknowledging these daily failures in any capacity(including denying an issue exists), the PCB changes in the next series of cards versus this one will serve as a makeshift announcement as to what the issue was.


    In the next series of cards? Do you mean the ti's? The 4000's? Or simply the next batch of 3080's?


    It will not be any new production of existing SKUs, as the 'sua culpa' would be too severe. If and when the Ti's come, it would be risky*(edit below), but not surprising. After that, a virtual guarantee.

    Some editorialized history: The EVGA 1080s cooled the GPU, but neglected secondary components that had historically never been a problem. Thermal pad application was demonstrated to be incredibly effective on their overheating/failing SKUs. Then came the 1080TI series, which I consider EVGA's tour de force in design. This was the birth of iCX, the multiple temperature sensors on both sides of the board on various components, and what reviewers could only call overkill thermal pad application.
    EVGA, IMO, has coasted on that laurel and it has finally caught up with them. There was likely a negligible amount of preproduction testing done on their Ampere SKUs, made more likely by the fact that they had to delay their FTW launch in post-production due to realizing that the power filter configuration(CAP-gate) was insufficient.

    As tacit as the response has been publicly, there has been and will continue to be internal communication aiming to avoid this from ever happening again, while avoiding the PR nuke that is anything recall-esque.
    We as EVGA consumers may benefit from the bloodshed, as did those that waited until Pascal II.

    *(EDIT): risky because the Ti would be positioned as an intermediary b/w the vanilla 3080 and 3090. A PCB redesign would disenfranchise 3080 owners, but would enrage 3090 owners, especially if the Red Light of Death ceases.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 23:08:11 (permalink)
    In my opinion, after reading this thread and others, I think the issue is related to: 1. Higher clocks/OC, 2. Power regulation, as in power supply or cables delivering unstable power and the cards not able to deal with that. 3. Poor cooler design, too much heat.

    A combination of these items.

    Those of us not playing cyberpunk or warzone or another hard on your gpu game do not encounter this issue (yet). I fear that any 3000 series card from evga is a ticking rma timebomb. I don’t see how they can fix this. I wonder how long before warranty’s are not honored.

    At 100 bucks a pop on return shipping I am now concerned about what I got myself into.

    My card has been ok for over a month, it’s a 3090 ftw3 ultra 2012 serial number red lipped type. I am still waiting on my 3080 ftw3 on step up for my second rig.

    I play less intense games ffiv and warframe... but my pc is vital to my work...

    Very discouraging

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 23:14:46 (permalink)
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    I fear that any 3000 series card from evga is a ticking rma timebomb. I don’t see how they can fix this.
    /*... */
    Very discouraging


    This is the failure that is most discouraging to me. Being the best company to RMA with does not offset the ample opportunities to do so.

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 23:22:02 (permalink)
    Ok so if this has become such a common issue why isn’t everyone banding together and getting outraged at this company for not saying a word about the gpu issue? Youre telling me is there enough complaints or not enough people having these issues to warrant them to be forced to say a word? I think there’s more to this than just gpus being a ticking time bombs.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 23:28:02 (permalink)
    Some of you guys are definitely leaving out details not to mention everyone now thinks it’s okay to just go ahead and go balls deep into overclocking a gpu without proper knowledge or cooling and continue to ramp these gpus to its limits until of course it breaks. Be honest here let’s count how many gpus that have been working fine compared to those that haven’t no one here is going to own up to their own mistakes.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 23:29:55 (permalink)
    https://egpu.io/forums/pc-gaming/cyberpunk-2077-killed-my-egpu-thoughts-on-what-went-wrong/

    It’s basically an issue with any 3000 series but the 80s and 90s seem to die a lot when plying any game that pushes them above clock in a sustained way. Or stresses them

    Seems like evga cards are especially susceptible

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/19 23:37:50 (permalink)
    The guy in that thread says he overclocked the gpu, to god knows what extent? He doesn’t mention how much he overclocked it see a pattern here? I want to know how many 3000 series died from not being overclocked at all, I doubt we will even know who’s telling the truth. Overclocking over the stock overclock if any gpu is not manufactured fault am I wrong here? When they sell you these gpus it’s whatever the clocks were specified yes or no?
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/20 01:55:14 (permalink)
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    I suspect the cards are dying due to the stress of the more demanding games.  EVGA is going to have a ton of replacements.


    While red light is primarily associated with old psu or 750-850 psu, I would say that there is absolutely no reason for the card to die because of game stress. It’s a ridiculously powerful card even at stock settings and now that my 3080 is RMA and I am using my old trusted 1060, it performs absolutely perfect minus the RTX and some less frames at the same settings and pc.

    I am extremely disappointed by my purchase at this point and also shocked at how much I had to pay to port a totally busted and defected piece of metal and plastic back to EVGA for God knows what replacement.

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/20 02:02:08 (permalink)
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    In my opinion, after reading this thread and others, I think the issue is related to: 1. Higher clocks/OC, 2. Power regulation, as in power supply or cables delivering unstable power and the cards not able to deal with that. 3. Poor cooler design


    My card was failing between 55-68 degrees celcious at stock settings and in games like world of Warcraft (any settings), forza horizon 4 (at any loading screen).

    Cyberpunk was running perfect I only black screened once there and only at a loading screen.

    Also in EU, UPS is around 200€ a pop if you don’t want to send the card in 10-15 days and receive it God knows when. A complete disaster at this point. “The RMA is good” doesn’t mean anything, card should be working perfect out of the box with less than 50 hours gaming logged.

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Ultra Single Red Light 2020/12/20 05:47:20 (permalink)
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    Some of you guys are definitely leaving out details not to mention everyone now thinks it’s okay to just go ahead and go balls deep into overclocking a gpu without proper knowledge or cooling and continue to ramp these gpus to its limits until of course it breaks. Be honest here let’s count how many gpus that have been working fine compared to those that haven’t no one here is going to own up to their own mistakes.


    I was 100% honest in my original post. I know with a 750 psu that I am at the RECOMMENDED minimum. Hence, I have not overclock Ed anything on my system in order to avoid any issues. My psu is also only 6 months old because I built my first rig this year. I should not have to deal with a dying card just for playing an intense game.
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