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2020/12/03 07:47:15 (permalink)
I got a brand new 3080 FTW3 Ultra yesterday and everything worked fine in the beginning. I installed Precision X1 software and it prompted that I should update the firmware. It completed successfully and worked fine. This morning I powered up my PC and all PCIe LEDs started blinking periodically. System boots and functions fine btw. Please see the video. The RGB stutters between the blinks.
 
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This is the screen from Precision X1 software during the problem (Image 1). Notice the missing LED option and 3rd fan status.
 
I then fire up anything to stress the GPU, as soon as 3rd fan starts spinning it starts functioning alright. Please see the screen from Precision X1 again (Image 2, I must restart the app though). Everything in place.
 
BUT as soon as I start getting under 35C, the problem starts happening again.
Update: It certainly is related to FAN 3 speed NOT temp. I watched it go back to 0 RPM. As soon it hits 0 RPM, blinking and RGB stuttering starts.
 Third update: It is also temperature related. Below 35 C fan 3 stops no matter the curve and blinking starts...
At first the frequency of blinking is lower, it gets worse as temps decrease. This clearly seems to be an issue with MCU firmware. I tried uninstalling rebooting and installing the software again. I don't want to go through an RMA... Could this be fixed? Is this a common problem or my card has a defect?
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/03 07:57:35 (permalink)
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/03 08:07:12 (permalink)
    I can't see my attached pictures but let me give you a link (images in order): imgur.com/a/Aow72hO
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/03 08:12:08 (permalink)
    Welcome to the EVGA Forums
     
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     FAQ:  How Do I Troubleshoot Precision X1 Issues?
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          3 - Now hold "start button" in for 20 sec to discharge capacitors ....
     
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/03 08:35:49 (permalink)
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    I can't see my attached pictures but let me give you a link (images in order): imgur.com/a/Aow72hO




     


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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/03 08:44:37 (permalink)
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    Welcome to the EVGA Forums
     
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    Tried the steps it' all the same. I always use DDU when installing a new GPU.
     
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    EVGA 3080 FTW3
    Firmware: 2.01.14 Just noticed that when I have blinking issue the firmware version does not display. I can only see BIOS version in Precision X1. I had to warm the GPU in order to see FW version.
    BIOS: 94.02.26.80.70
    Driver: 457.51
     
    40C is the threshold. Below that blinking and RGB stutters start.
     
    Second update: It certainly is related to FAN 3 speed NOT temp. I watched it go back to 0 RPM. As soon it hits 0 RPM, blinking and stuttering starts.
    Third update: It is also temperature related. Below 35 C fan 3 stops no matter the curve and blinking starts...
    This has started AFTER the FW update. FAN3 doesn't respond to manual control, it starts spinning only in auto mode, AFTER about 20 seconds the other two ramps up.
    post edited by AlperN - 2020/12/04 01:28:11
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/04 09:13:11 (permalink)
    Is there any way I can manually flash previous firmware? Is that the FW for FTW3 3080? FTW_E227_3Fans_AP_R113
     
    I just don't like seeing this while paying a premium... I'm not the only one experiencing this.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/05 03:57:50 (permalink)
    So any ideas? No response to my ticket yet. If GPU temp goes below 40C firmware crashes, if not no issues, I watched it enough to say it's a predictable pattern. Cooler (low 30s) it gets more frequent leds blinks. This seems to be a firmware issue rather than a hardware.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 06:38:32 (permalink)
    Thanks for posting on the thread I started. I just wish I could post videos so I can show people what the card's behavior is! I even did a screen capture of the PX1 software.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 06:53:08 (permalink)
    You can check my 
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    Thanks for posting on the thread I started. I just wish I could post videos so I can show people what the card's behavior is! I even did a screen capture of the PX1 software.




    Is it similar to this?
     
    streamable.com/2j20vj
     
    I also have a reddit post: reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/k64br2/3080_ftw3_firmware_crash_issue_after_mcu_update/
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 06:58:53 (permalink)
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    You can check my 
    Chimuel
    Thanks for posting on the thread I started. I just wish I could post videos so I can show people what the card's behavior is! I even did a screen capture of the PX1 software.




    Is it similar to this?
     
    streamable.com/2j20vj
     
    I also have a reddit post: reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/k64br2/3080_ftw3_firmware_crash_issue_after_mcu_update/


    It sure is. I posted on your reddit thread.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 07:03:24 (permalink)
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    You can check my 
    Chimuel
    Thanks for posting on the thread I started. I just wish I could post videos so I can show people what the card's behavior is! I even did a screen capture of the PX1 software.




    Is it similar to this?
     
    streamable.com/2j20vj
     
    I also have a reddit post: reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/k64br2/3080_ftw3_firmware_crash_issue_after_mcu_update/


    It sure is. I posted on your reddit thread.




    Does your card have black lips as well? There has to be a pattern here. My logic is if our MCU was defective it would show erradic behaviour contrary to predictable and repeating patterns we see. So it's leading to me believe it's a FW. Hope someone notices this. I found 4-5 posts in the whole web having similar issues with limited attention. It could be that latest batch cards have a conflict with latest FW version.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 07:08:33 (permalink)
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    You can check my 
    Chimuel
    Thanks for posting on the thread I started. I just wish I could post videos so I can show people what the card's behavior is! I even did a screen capture of the PX1 software.




    Is it similar to this?
     
    streamable.com/2j20vj
     
    I also have a reddit post: reddit.com/r/TEAMEVGA/comments/k64br2/3080_ftw3_firmware_crash_issue_after_mcu_update/


    It sure is. I posted on your reddit thread.




    Does your card have black lips as well? There has to be a pattern here. My logic is if our MCU was defective it would show erradic behaviour contrary to predictable and repeating patterns we see. So it's leading to me believe it's a FW. Hope someone notices this. I found 4-5 posts in the whole web having similar issues with limited attention. It could be that latest batch cards have a conflict with latest FW version.




    The defective card I received was a 2012***** serial number and it had red trim. The LEDs and fans were working fine (at least I didn't notice it wasn't working fine) until after I opened up Precision X1 and installed a firmware update. After that I was trying to sync my LEDs and it wouldn't let me do it. On PX1 version 1.1.1 if I clicked the (i) button in the bottom right it wouldn't even show my firmware version (I have two systems and was comparing my two cards)
     



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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 07:11:52 (permalink)
    OH! My 3080 has also 2012**** serial number but with black trim.
     
    Hope it's not a HW issue but then again if it was I would certainly notice those blinking reds during FIRST boot up which means card was at room temp. I'm 100% sure before FW update everything was FINE, ruling out HW problem.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 07:16:21 (permalink)
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    OH! My 3080 has also 2012**** serial number but with black trim.
     
    Hope it's not a HW issue but then again if it was I would certainly notice those blinking reds during FIRST boot up which means card was at room temp. I'm 100% sure before FW update everything was FINE, ruling out HW problem.




    I would just RMA it at this point. I noticed between my two cards that the faulty one would be reaching higher temps because fan 3 just wasn't kicking on and maintaining RPM (it would cycle on off as you may see in my reddit post).
     
    EDIT: I mean I could still play games and run benchmarks just fine. My ambient temps are very low and my build is in a Meshify C so I can maintain decent temperatures even with that faulty card.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 07:24:04 (permalink)
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    OH! My 3080 has also 2012**** serial number but with black trim.
     
    Hope it's not a HW issue but then again if it was I would certainly notice those blinking reds during FIRST boot up which means card was at room temp. I'm 100% sure before FW update everything was FINE, ruling out HW problem.




    I would just RMA it at this point. I noticed between my two cards that the faulty one would be reaching higher temps because fan 3 just wasn't kicking on and maintaining RPM (it would cycle on off as you may see in my reddit post).
     
    EDIT: I mean I could still play games and run benchmarks just fine. My ambient temps are very low and my build is in a Meshify C so I can maintain decent temperatures even with that faulty card.




    My third fan spins after a certain threshold but later than 1 and 2. Once it kicks in it works fine. My temps are around 64 to 74C depending on the application. I'm holding back on RMA until I hear from EVGA regarding a possible FW fix because I'm located outside USA and RMA would incur customs tax on the new card which I would need to clarify with EVGA (maybe they also pay that?). If I return it to local store they would send it back to importer for servicing and in pandemic it would mean I'll be without a card for a while with no guarantee of outcome. I could just bring it back to store for replacement, in this case stocks are non-existant... So it's a bit of dilemma.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 07:47:07 (permalink)
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    My third fan spins after a certain threshold but later than 1 and 2. Once it kicks in it works fine. My temps are around 64 to 74C depending on the application. I'm holding back on RMA until I hear from EVGA regarding a possible FW fix because I'm located outside USA and RMA would incur customs tax on the new card which I would need to clarify with EVGA (maybe they also pay that?). If I return it to local store they would send it back to importer for servicing and in pandemic it would mean I'll be without a card for a while with no guarantee of outcome. I could just bring it back to store for replacement, in this case stocks are non-existant... So it's a bit of dilemma.




    Oh man that is unfortunate... Would the store be able to swap it out for you? It's a faulty product, hopefully you can work something out with them.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 10:41:37 (permalink)
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    My third fan spins after a certain threshold but later than 1 and 2. Once it kicks in it works fine. My temps are around 64 to 74C depending on the application. I'm holding back on RMA until I hear from EVGA regarding a possible FW fix because I'm located outside USA and RMA would incur customs tax on the new card which I would need to clarify with EVGA (maybe they also pay that?). If I return it to local store they would send it back to importer for servicing and in pandemic it would mean I'll be without a card for a while with no guarantee of outcome. I could just bring it back to store for replacement, in this case stocks are non-existant... So it's a bit of dilemma.




    Oh man that is unfortunate... Would the store be able to swap it out for you? It's a faulty product, hopefully you can work something out with them.



    They don't have enough stock so swapping would be problematic. The closest store with stock is on the other side of the city. I might go RMA with EVGA if it's non fixable but I really like to hear feedback from someone in EVGA team. I also had a ticket so let's see how they respond.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 13:34:16 (permalink)
    Same boat.  Just picked up my 3080 from Microcenter as an open box.  Must have been returned having this problem.  
     
    I'm not getting a firmware update prompt from X1 so guessing the previous owner attempted the firmware update and returned card after the issues.  Wonder why they would return it instead of RMA...can't get these things at all.  
     
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 13:40:52 (permalink)
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    Same boat.  Just picked up my 3080 from Microcenter as an open box.  Must have been returned having this problem.  
     
    I'm not getting a firmware update prompt from X1 so guessing the previous owner attempted the firmware update and returned card after the issues.  Wonder why they would return it instead of RMA...can't get these things at all.  
     
    edit: wow my signature...I need to update lol




    Welcome to the boat :). Does your card also have black lips or serial starting with 2012*** ? Let's see if EVGA guys pays attention here. Fortunately card works otherwise.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 15:08:03 (permalink)
    Mine has serial starting 2014.  Sorry not sure about the black lips.  

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 15:20:39 (permalink)
    I can chime in with a 2012 serial with red lips, no issues.


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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/06 22:34:56 (permalink)
    I literally had this problem with 2 cards (RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra), my original and my RMA. It is definitely something weird with the firmware. I ultimately initiated a return and decided to stick with my 1080ti FTW3 that has been flawless since the day I bought it. I wasn't willing to pay a premium ($800+) for a product that isn't working properly. I think some of the issues that are being seen with this generation is a bit inexcusable. It seems there are enough instances that is more than an outlier. Hopefully as the 30 series matures some of these issues will be ironed out. But it is concerning that EVGA has yet to officially investigate or at least acknowledge there is a more widespread issue. EVGA products for me have been outstanding for the last decade or so I've used them, so it is a disappoint that this generation (at least at this time) appears to be having issues.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/07 05:01:41 (permalink)
    Here's mine. Fans are stuck now at 100%

    I can't help but wonder if there's some conflict with other RGB drivers or software since it seems some folks have multiple failures or none at all

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/07 05:03:57 (permalink)
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    Here's mine. Fans are stuck now at 100%

    I can't help but wonder if there's some conflict with other RGB drivers or software since it seems some folks have multiple failures or none at all

    photos.app.goo.gl/BkFrWCoaM8wrJpADA



    What is your system specs? I mean if it was a driver issue it wouldn't start happening until after Windows boot.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/07 06:36:46 (permalink)
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    Here's mine. Fans are stuck now at 100%

    I can't help but wonder if there's some conflict with other RGB drivers or software since it seems some folks have multiple failures or none at all

    photos.app.goo.gl/BkFrWCoaM8wrJpADA



    What is your system specs? I mean if it was a driver issue it wouldn't start happening until after Windows boot.




    This one was an open box return from Microcenter so it was messed up when I got it...I don't think it's my rig that is the problem specifically...I didn't even have any RGB software loaded because I had problems with it previously.  However, the commands for RGB do get loaded at the hardware level which is why it retains LED colors when you shut down and restart so if there was some corruption that happened in that firmware/code I would assume it would be a problem until it was reset or forced reset.  
     
    Just a theory.  Anyhow...I'm super disappointed...will try and RMA and cross fingers that an RMA card doesn't have this same problem for me.  Otherwise I'll try trading this card for an ASUS TUF.  That was the card I wanted anyways.  EVGA has fallen, IMO.  

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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/07 06:52:11 (permalink)
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    Here's mine. Fans are stuck now at 100%

    I can't help but wonder if there's some conflict with other RGB drivers or software since it seems some folks have multiple failures or none at all

    photos.app.goo.gl/BkFrWCoaM8wrJpADA



    What is your system specs? I mean if it was a driver issue it wouldn't start happening until after Windows boot.




    This one was an open box return from Microcenter so it was messed up when I got it...I don't think it's my rig that is the problem specifically...I didn't even have any RGB software loaded because I had problems with it previously.  However, the commands for RGB do get loaded at the hardware level which is why it retains LED colors when you shut down and restart so if there was some corruption that happened in that firmware/code I would assume it would be a problem until it was reset or forced reset.  
     
    Just a theory.  Anyhow...I'm super disappointed...will try and RMA and cross fingers that an RMA card doesn't have this same problem for me.  Otherwise I'll try trading this card for an ASUS TUF.  That was the card I wanted anyways.  EVGA has fallen, IMO.  


    Good luck with that. This must be a corruption on FW level I agree. My card (for now at least) functions fine without any issue except the rgb below 40C. I think I'll wait for EVGA to get back and see if they address this issue.
     
    People are welcome to post here if they have the same issue.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/09 01:00:38 (permalink)
    Can confirm I have the same (or very similar) issue after flashing firmware (which, I feel obligated to point out, is MANDATORY if you want to use X1; if you say "No," the program just closes).
     
    Just installed card yesterday. Fan 3 does not spin but does appear in X1. If set to AUTO or fan curve applied, nothing ever happens with Fan 3 (it does not show a fan speed percentage at all). If I manually set fan speed, it will show percentage but no RPM, and fan does not spin. This is at any temperature.
     

     
    Fan 3 does not appear anywhere else, including HWiNFO.

     
    This seems to have happened when applying the firmware update from X1 (v1.1.2.0), because the fan was spinning before that.
     
    Steps taken to resolve:
    • Noticed third fan wasn't spinning. Removed all possible conflicting software (MSI Afterburner) and X1.
    • Booted to safe mode. Ran DDU, restarted. Installed latest NVIDIA drivers (457.51). Rebooted to safe mode again. Re-installed X1. Restarted to normal mode.
    • Observed third fan continues to not spin or respond to requests from X1, nor does it appear in HWiNFO.
    I assume it is appear in X1 just because X1 loads an expected profile, and doesn't actually reflect what fans are detected.
     
    After I got no love from the above, I did flash the experimental bios just in case it might do something, but no change.
     
    GPU is connected to PSU via 1x 6+2 GPU cable and one daisy-chained 6+2 (x2) connector. No luck re-seating or using different cable configurations or PSU ports.
     
    I do not have the flashing red lights, but my light bar is also non-functional.
    Some other threads related to this issue:



    There are more on Reddit, for sure.
     
    I'm really, really hoping this can be resolved via firmware, because I'm in Canada and not looking forward to paying the shipping costs, etc. for an RMA...
     
    Even an acknowledgement of the issue from EVGA would make me feel better, but it seems like all the service techs are just saying to RMA it.
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/09 01:40:36 (permalink)
    Well I tried my luck with the store I bought it from and they were nice enough to replace it with the only stock they had. I was lucky because normal procedure is to sent it to importer and they service it. I got a new one with black lips and serial with 2014**, it's working fine. I will not dare to update firmware or even touch precision x1 for now but it's the only way we can control rgb.

    Please keep posting here until an acknowledgement comes from evga. It should be fixable via update. I will keep following this topic! There's no telling it won't happen again. And at this price point, I'm disappointed. It should be tested more thoroughly before releasing a firmware...
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    Re: 3080 FTW3 Blinking power leds and stuttering RGB 2020/12/09 02:57:48 (permalink)
    Well after all my spit and venom: update.
     
    n my case, this was resolved by connecting 3x 8-pin connectors to the GPU instead of 1x 8-pin and 1 pigtail/daisy-chain. (Technically I'm running 3x 6x2 until I can get some cables in, but you get the idea.)
     
    Not sure if the firmware update is responsible in some way, but leaving it here in hopes it can help someone.
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