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Thursday, June 17, 2021 4:32 AM (permalink)
My 3070 ti ftw3 is running quite a bit hotter than expected. When gaming it will be between 85-90c on gpu1 sensor and 70 on gpu2. I can put the back of my hand on the heatsink and its barely warm. The fans are running pretty fast so I'm not sure whats going on. Heres what precision is showing. I have no panels on the tower so it essentially has open air. I even put a fan in front of the card...still no dice. Thanks in advance for any help!
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    KingEngineRevUp
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 4:36 AM (permalink)
    Sounds like a really bad thermal paste job.
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 4:56 AM (permalink)
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    Sounds like a really bad thermal paste job.

    I'm starting to lean that way. I lowered the core clock speed to under 1ghz just to see, and the temps are still in the high 70's.
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:00 AM (permalink)
    Well taking apart the card is really easy and doesn't void the warranty. I recommend repasting it. Every FTW3 I have taken apart has had very dried up thermal paste, when you remove it, it'll crack apart I bet. 
     
    Post pics, I forgot to post pics of the 3080 Ti I took apart recently. 
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:19 AM (permalink)
    KingEngineRevUp
    Well taking apart the card is really easy and doesn't void the warranty. I recommend repasting it. Every FTW3 I have taken apart has had very dried up thermal paste, when you remove it, it'll crack apart I bet. 
     
    Post pics, I forgot to post pics of the 3080 Ti I took apart recently. 


    I'll try that, thanks. Did your card have Putty or pads on the surrounding components? Looks like the 3070 and 3080 ftw cards both have putty. That's gonna be a pain to replace.
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:24 AM (permalink)
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    Well taking apart the card is really easy and doesn't void the warranty. I recommend repasting it. Every FTW3 I have taken apart has had very dried up thermal paste, when you remove it, it'll crack apart I bet. 
     
    Post pics, I forgot to post pics of the 3080 Ti I took apart recently. 


    I'll try that, thanks. Did your card have Putty or pads on the surrounding components? Looks like the 3070 and 3080 ftw cards both have putty. That's gonna be a pain to replace.


    Putty, you can roll the putty up actually and flatten it to your liking with a credit card or something. It can be reformed to your liking. The retention spring bracket in the back of the card applies A LOT of mounting pressure, to expect it to smooth the card back into place and the putty will spread again. 
     
    If you want, run your card for a few minutes and warm it up, it'll be easier to manipulate the putty again. It's not bad at all. 
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:41 AM (permalink)
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    Well taking apart the card is really easy and doesn't void the warranty. I recommend repasting it. Every FTW3 I have taken apart has had very dried up thermal paste, when you remove it, it'll crack apart I bet. 
     
    Post pics, I forgot to post pics of the 3080 Ti I took apart recently. 


    I'll try that, thanks. Did your card have Putty or pads on the surrounding components? Looks like the 3070 and 3080 ftw cards both have putty. That's gonna be a pain to replace.


    Putty, you can roll the putty up actually and flatten it to your liking with a credit card or something. It can be reformed to your liking. The retention spring bracket in the back of the card applies A LOT of mounting pressure, to expect it to smooth the card back into place and the putty will spread again. 
     
    If you want, run your card for a few minutes and warm it up, it'll be easier to manipulate the putty again. It's not bad at all. 

    Make a video or pics about this. It should be very helpful.
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:52 AM (permalink)
    There are a few videos of those taking apart the 308/3090 which should be very similar to your 3070FTW3.  The tips I would share would be when you are removing the 4 tension screws around the GPU die, loosen them a little at a time and work your way around the die.  Also, when you pry apart the pcb from the cooler, I would strongly recommend not prying it away from the corners,  stay toward the middle where the thermal putty is.  Be careful of the wire that are color coded for the fans.  There might be another wire at the end of the color that has to be disconnected as well.  You tube is your friend on this if you haven't done it before.  Also, watch as many different videos as possible so that you can see different aspects as to what to expect.  

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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 6:30 AM (permalink)
    Apply some good thermal paste (Arctic MX4/MX5 is more than enough) and change the termal pads and you should be good to go
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 6:39 AM (permalink)
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    There are a few videos of those taking apart the 308/3090 which should be very similar to your 3070FTW3.  The tips I would share would be when you are removing the 4 tension screws around the GPU die, loosen them a little at a time and work your way around the die.  Also, when you pry apart the pcb from the cooler, I would strongly recommend not prying it away from the corners,  stay toward the middle where the thermal putty is.  Be careful of the wire that are color coded for the fans.  There might be another wire at the end of the color that has to be disconnected as well.  You tube is your friend on this if you haven't done it before.  Also, watch as many different videos as possible so that you can see different aspects as to what to expect.  


    I'll keep all that in mind, thanks :)
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:45 AM (permalink)
    Yes, pictures please. I'm planning on getting the XC3 version of the same card and I'm 90% sure I'm gonna need to do the same thing since it sure not gonna perform any better than the FTW3. Good luck BTW.

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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:47 AM (permalink)
    Really bad thermals?
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:38 AM (permalink)
    Could anyone recommend a brand for thermal putty replacement please? Is it better to be silicon based or silicon free? And if you can give a brand that can be easily found in EU because whenever I type "thermal putty" I get different results (something like a sludge for molding). Many thanks.

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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 1:07 PM (permalink)
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    Could anyone recommend a brand for thermal putty replacement please? Is it better to be silicon based or silicon free? And if you can give a brand that can be easily found in EU because whenever I type "thermal putty" I get different results (something like a sludge for molding). Many thanks.


    In case whoever is able to answer your question knows the answer to mine: Is there any merit to thermal putty over thermal pads? And can they be used interchangeably? (like if the card uses putty can I use pads instead and the other way around)

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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, June 17, 2021 9:34 PM (permalink)
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    Could anyone recommend a brand for thermal putty replacement please? Is it better to be silicon based or silicon free? And if you can give a brand that can be easily found in EU because whenever I type "thermal putty" I get different results (something like a sludge for molding). Many thanks.


    In case whoever is able to answer your question knows the answer to mine: Is there any merit to thermal putty over thermal pads? And can they be used interchangeably? (like if the card uses putty can I use pads instead and the other way around)

    I will get the better thermal pads or putty and thermal paste the market can offer.

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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Friday, June 18, 2021 10:58 AM (permalink)
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    I will get the better thermal pads or putty and thermal paste the market can offer.



    Obviously that is the case for all of us but what brands should we look out for? In my country (Greece) you can't even find thermal "putty" as this description you can find "thermal pads", "thermal paste", "thermal grease".
     
    Not sure if thermal grease = thermal putty and not sure what EU store to contact so I won't have to pay crazy sums for customs duties.
     
    Again many thanks for any suggestion.
     

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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Friday, June 25, 2021 8:56 PM (permalink)
    So I think I found my temperature culprit. Part of the die had no paste on it at all.
    post edited by rickof06 - Friday, June 25, 2021 8:57 PM
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Friday, June 25, 2021 8:58 PM (permalink)
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    So I think I found my temperature culprit. Part of the die had no paste on it at all.

    That's what I've been telling you since day 1!
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Friday, June 25, 2021 9:35 PM (permalink)
    I know, but didnt get a chance to take it apart til today. Some nt-h1 and new thermal pads fixed it up :) Thank you for the help!
    post edited by rickof06 - Friday, June 25, 2021 9:53 PM
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Monday, August 30, 2021 7:54 AM (permalink)
    What are you temps now?
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Monday, August 30, 2021 8:10 AM (permalink)
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    What are you temps now?

    The forum member didn't post back so I assume he has solved the issue.

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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Monday, August 30, 2021 12:47 AM (permalink)
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    What are you temps now?


    The 3070 Ti has the same cooler as the higher end cards but maxes out at 325w, it should have no problem staying at 60C or under with a good airflow case and fans, with 20C ambient.
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Monday, August 30, 2021 1:31 PM (permalink)
    Could someone please post a thermal putty brand (preferably one that can be found in Europe) most people understand I am looking for thermal paste when I ask for it. Thanks!!
     
    P.S. My temperatures on 3080 ftw3 easily go to 77c on factory settings and benchmarks but thats it. Normal gaming temperatures between 62-72c max. Full ultra 1440p.

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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Wednesday, September 01, 2021 5:45 AM (permalink)
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    What are you temps now?

    Sorry for taking so long to reply. repasting it dropped the temps to about 80c. I actually ended up putting a waterblock on it meant for the 3070 ftw3 and now my temps are around 40-45c. The EK vector block works on this card for anyone interested.
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, September 02, 2021 7:38 AM (permalink)
    Is it necessary to replace EVGA 3070ti ftw3 with the thermal pad? How much does it actually help after replacement?
    What is the final GPU temperature and VRAM temperature?
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    Re: 3070 ti ftw3 hitting 90c, card not hot to touch Thursday, September 02, 2021 7:43 AM (permalink)
    Will it break the warranty if disassembling and replacing the thermal pad by myself ?
    The air coming out of the fan will not be very hot, and the heat sink is not hot too, but the back panel is quite hot. Why?
     
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