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2020/09/02 12:58:21 (permalink)
I know I am crazy for asking, but are there any blower designs for any of these models 3070, 3080, 3090?  
Just asking for the SFF crowd.     = ) 
 
 
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/02 13:45:33 (permalink)
    Think the XC3 will be good for SFF crowd. It is only 285.37mm x 111.15mm x 45.1mm (40.9mm with backplate removed). I guess it depends on what your card is exactly, but that should fit in a lot of different SFF cases like Ncase.
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/02 18:53:55 (permalink)
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    Think the XC3 will be good for SFF crowd. It is only 285.37mm x 111.15mm x 45.1mm (40.9mm with backplate removed). I guess it depends on what your card is exactly, but that should fit in a lot of different SFF cases like Ncase.



     
    Should work in the NCASE, Dan A4SFX, but not the Cerberus X with a front mount radiator (I have all three of them). That's limited to roughly 265mm or the same length as a founders edition 2080. NCASE benefits quite a bit from a blower style card due to it's limited exhaust and traditional layout. Same with Cerberus. I would happily buy a 3 slot blower card for either the Cerberus or NCASE.
     
    The bigger issue is that at 220 watts, the 3070 is probably not going to make it to true SFF ITX form like the MSI Aero ITX cards.
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/02 18:57:17 (permalink)
    nobuo780
    I know I am crazy for asking, but are there any blower designs for any of these models 3070, 3080, 3090?  
    Just asking for the SFF crowd.     = ) 
     
     




     
    You're not crazy for asking... Blower cards are often under rated because on open test benches they can't perform as well as axiel models. Put them where they are at home, in a tight case with limited airflow, and they excel. I had a 980ti blower and a 2080 FE axiel in an NCASE M1. With all the panels off, the 2080 FE was quiet and worked great. Put the panels on, and it sounded like a jet engine and quickly overheated. The blower 980ti was actually substantially quieter and happily overclocked to 1.4GHZ in the same case.
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/02 20:51:29 (permalink)
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    Think the XC3 will be good for SFF crowd. It is only 285.37mm x 111.15mm x 45.1mm (40.9mm with backplate removed). I guess it depends on what your card is exactly, but that should fit in a lot of different SFF cases like Ncase.



     
    Should work in the NCASE, Dan A4SFX, but not the Cerberus X with a front mount radiator (I have all three of them). That's limited to roughly 265mm or the same length as a founders edition 2080. NCASE benefits quite a bit from a blower style card due to it's limited exhaust and traditional layout. Same with Cerberus. I would happily buy a 3 slot blower card for either the Cerberus or NCASE.
     
    The bigger issue is that at 220 watts, the 3070 is probably not going to make it to true SFF ITX form like the MSI Aero ITX cards.


    Not sure if you've ever seen this but M1AF over from reddit made this and found the best is a deshrouded GPU with fans exhausting out the bottom for Ncase. If you search him on reddit he has a lot of good info relating to Ncase.

    https://docs.google.com/s...14/edit#gid=1019066897
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/02 21:03:40 (permalink)
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    Airikay
    Think the XC3 will be good for SFF crowd. It is only 285.37mm x 111.15mm x 45.1mm (40.9mm with backplate removed). I guess it depends on what your card is exactly, but that should fit in a lot of different SFF cases like Ncase.



     
    Should work in the NCASE, Dan A4SFX, but not the Cerberus X with a front mount radiator (I have all three of them). That's limited to roughly 265mm or the same length as a founders edition 2080. NCASE benefits quite a bit from a blower style card due to it's limited exhaust and traditional layout. Same with Cerberus. I would happily buy a 3 slot blower card for either the Cerberus or NCASE.
     
    The bigger issue is that at 220 watts, the 3070 is probably not going to make it to true SFF ITX form like the MSI Aero ITX cards.


    Not sure if you've ever seen this but M1AF over from reddit made this and found the best is a deshrouded GPU with fans exhausting out the bottom for Ncase. If you search him on reddit he has a lot of good info relating to Ncase.





    I actually replicated this but couldn't replicate his results. My CPU AIO was starved for air and would overheat, killing my overclock. I didn't want to delid, so I swapped to a blower. But it's good info.Thank you for posting it.
    post edited by Revenant_Knight - 2020/09/02 21:06:59
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/14 19:50:41 (permalink)
     
    Same question. I've been looking for a blower style to upgrade my Mrs' mini-ITX build, ideally a 3070. Having hot air emptying into that Corsair 250D mini-ITX case would turn it into an oven, particularly with an AiO 120mm rad sitting on the front intake. Currently still using a 980Ti in there and it works well (no overheating), but it's due for an upgrade. The 20xx series had a few blower cards, so I'm hoping the same for the 30XX series - most likely the 3070 cards. Ironically a new 2070 Super is currently more expensive than a new 3070 (assuming the suggested retail price of $499), I'm hoping that disparity will change once the 30XX cards come out officially...
     
     

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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/14 21:59:58 (permalink)
    Hey evga, any blowers for 30 series like you did for 20 series?
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/14 22:05:49 (permalink)
    nobuo780
    Hey evga, any blowers for 30 series like you did for 20 series?
     
    Not according to this page (unless you count an AiO as a blower style, lol).
     

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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/14 23:13:59 (permalink)
    NVIDIA completely redesigned their Founder's Edition card with two fans. The blower style of card is loud and inefficient. Personally I'm glad this type of design is going away. 

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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/15 12:51:11 (permalink)
    Just saying the SFF builders sometimes need/want blower GPU cards.     Hey, DIY, could i make my own blower?    That would be an epic build! 
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/15 13:46:32 (permalink)
    nobuo780
    Just saying the SFF builders sometimes need/want blower GPU cards.     Hey, DIY, could i make my own blower?    That would be an epic build! 


    DIY blower :)  Years ago I started planning a build inside a mini-fridge with flexible ducting hose for blower exhaust etc., never came to fruition though.
     

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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/15 13:49:52 (permalink)
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    NVIDIA completely redesigned their Founder's Edition card with two fans. The blower style of card is loud and inefficient. Personally I'm glad this type of design is going away. 

    I'd be quite happy with 2 fans on the mini-ITX build GPU if the air was still exhausted out the back of the case only, but they aren't designed that way. I guess some duct tape could solve that, but it would screw up the air flow in the GPU for the intended cooling, so nope.
     
     

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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/15 13:50:13 (permalink)
    No plans to offer blower models at this time.  It's possible that may change in the future, but as of today, no plans.
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/15 13:53:03 (permalink)
    Maybe EVGA won't do it, but I have heard rumors of other brands working on a blower design. A surprising amount of AIBs made good quality blowers for the 2080ti, and while loud, do serve their purpose in the right scenario. Obviously it might just be one variant at stock clockspeeds and the OC is up to the end user to attempt.
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/15 13:53:39 (permalink)
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    No plans to offer blower models at this time.  It's possible that may change in the future, but as of today, no plans.

    Yup kinda figured as much with the high TDP on the 30XX cards - a blower fan probably wouldn't cut it... maybe on a stock clock 3070 or a 3060 if one comes out...
     

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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/15 20:58:27 (permalink)
    Yeah cross your fingers for a 3080/70 blower!
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/15 21:15:13 (permalink)
    the FE/Nvidia design has a semi-blower cooler, where one fan acts as a blower, and the other doesn't. I do wonder how big it would be needed for a pure blower cooler, if you enlarged it to the size of the 3090 cooler, I could see it working, though I can't say how well/loud it would be. SO I think the semi-blower would be the best option for a case with semi-limited airflow (barring more advanced options like hybrid/water cooling.
     
    Given the power draw on the 3070, it should be doable on that card at least.


     
     
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/16 14:55:02 (permalink)
     
    Just ordered the RTX-2070 Super Gaming 08G-P4-3070-RX (with blower) for my Mrs' mini-ITX build. EVGA dropped the price on the B-Stock one down to $399 so I decided that was worth it for an upgrade from a 980Ti - about 50% performance upgrade, and as a bonus it's compatible with the features in NVidia Broadcast when that comes out some time this month. No need to buy a green screen now (which she was about to do).
     
    I was going to rebuild her entire rig, but the i7-7700k in there is still a pretty solid CPU, not that much of a gain going to an i7-10700k other than more cores, and she doesn't really need it.. plus the 10700 runs significantly hotter - 91W vs 125W, and more heat is definitely not welcome in a mini-ITX build. Might be a small hit on the GPU performance with the 7700 vs 10700 CPU, but certainly nowhere near the gain moving from 980Ti to 2070Super.
     
    I'll take a look at the Zen 3 Ryzen 4000 chips when they come out in October and maybe consider rebuilding then.
     
     
     
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/16 15:39:44 (permalink)
    I think if they say no plans today it probably would take months before we would see one if they decided to do one.

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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/19 07:48:10 (permalink)
    A 3090 blower is planned! Wow! Perhaps a 3080 as well maybe. Sweet

    https://www.gigabyte.com/.../GV-N3090TURBO-24GD#kf
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/19 09:17:01 (permalink)
    Here I was thinking nobody will miss blowers, because most of the time... they blow :D
    Aren't SFF cases becoming more cooling friendly with airflow, water-cooling support, and GPU compatibility? Level1Techs have done good overviews of them.
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/20 14:35:17 (permalink)
    Asus announced turbo blower 30s as well. They had some for 20 series. Evga had 20 blowers. There is a market for them evga!
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/21 00:43:38 (permalink)
    Blowers are also good for workstation users who need to densely pack cards together. A lot of pro-level workstation motherboards are two-slot spaced for the GPU slots. 
     
    I think it will be interesting to see the Ampere cards for the Quadro line. 
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/26 10:06:31 (permalink)
    I think i saw one get hinted at, but the closest is the fe
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/26 18:28:47 (permalink)
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    A 3090 blower is planned! Wow! Perhaps a 3080 as well maybe. Sweet

    https://www.gigabyte.com/.../GV-N3090TURBO-24GD#kf

    That is the hotness.
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/30 13:33:47 (permalink)
    one can just downlock or lower the TDP on these blowers and they would perform pretty decent!      You have 1 buyer EVGA if you release a cool looking model; blower for 3080 makes more sense than 3090. 
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    Re: 3070, 3080, 3090 BLOWER designs? 2020/09/30 13:55:53 (permalink)
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    A 3090 blower is planned! Wow! Perhaps a 3080 as well maybe. Sweet

    https://www.gigabyte.com/.../GV-N3090TURBO-24GD#kf

    That is the hotness.


    Yes, hot for sure.  And loud.
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