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2017/10/05 18:50:36 (permalink)
Any difference in 2017 with these newer boards going 2 dimm (16x2) vs 4 dim (8x4)? is the z370 optimized for 2 dimm setups? I just ordered the 8700k myself
 
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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/06 04:21:30 (permalink)
    I have always heard that 2 dimms put much less stress on the IMC. With 2 dimms, you are already get dual channel, so you don’t really need four dimms if you can afford the two 16gb modules.
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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/06 09:24:07 (permalink)
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    I have always heard that 2 dimms put much less stress on the IMC. With 2 dimms, you are already get dual channel, so you don’t really need four dimms if you can afford the two 16gb modules.

    ^This.
     
    For most 24/7 users, there won't be a terrible strain running 2 or 4 DIMMs on a CPU, especially if you only plan to run on stock settings.  If you plan to overclock, sometimes even a little bit less stress makes a big difference for pushing your clocks a bit higher.
     
    It's really more a matter if you feel you'll need the 64GB of RAM afforded by the 4 DIMMS, compared to 32GB.  Alternatively, it might also just be cheaper to find your favorite kit of 4x8GB rather than 2x16GB.
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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/06 09:47:48 (permalink)
    Right now memory prices are still going higher so 2 DIMMs are also a cheaper solution.

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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/10 13:43:07 (permalink)
    prices going up suggest another illegal price fixing scheme, ram is supposed to get cheaper over time
     


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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/10 13:47:59 (permalink)
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    prices going up suggest another illegal price fixing scheme, ram is supposed to get cheaper over time
     


    Shortage is causing the rise. They have been talking about the shortage for a while now.
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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/10 13:52:00 (permalink)
    i suspect the shortage is due to illegal market manipulation such as restricting supply


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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/10 14:21:59 (permalink)
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    i suspect the shortage is due to illegal market manipulation such as restricting supply


    The RAM I bought when ddr4 was released is significantly cheaper than when it first released, so prices are still lower than 2 years ago.

    https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820231795 for $320

    When I purchased my set, it was $489. So, while the prices may go up a little, I feel it isn’t as bad as people are making it sound.

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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/10 14:31:19 (permalink)
    historically ram has seen a price deflator of 45% over the last 30 years
     
    look it up if you have an F- in economics


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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/10 20:18:19 (permalink)
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    i suspect the shortage is due to illegal market manipulation such as restricting supply


    The RAM I bought when ddr4 was released is significantly cheaper than when it first released, so prices are still lower than 2 years ago.

    https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820231795 for $320

    When I purchased my set, it was $489. So, while the prices may go up a little, I feel it isn’t as bad as people are making it sound.



    happens all the time, just now you have to mix in NVME and SSD drives getting alot more popular so that puts a bigger strain on the chip makers, plus was there not something with a factory or two in china that went off line? 
     
    now back to the topic, Intel IMC have always been know to be weak when running 4 DIMMS, if you stay at stock then they will be fine, but as stated even a slight OC can make it go sideways, i always use 1 DIMM per channel, save me the headache of trying to get something stable that may never be. 

                                   
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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/11 09:57:38 (permalink)
    I usually always instal 4 sticks of memory on my desktop rigs (unless the board has only 2 slots). Laptops usually have 2 slots.
     


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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/11 21:59:24 (permalink)
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    I have always heard that 2 dimms put much less stress on the IMC. With 2 dimms, you are already get dual channel, so you don’t really need four dimms if you can afford the two 16gb modules.



    I agree. Go with two. Then add two more later on.       

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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/12 00:24:39 (permalink)
    Two has a better chance higher overclocks and gives you the option to add more RAM later if in the future you feel more RAM would be better then the fastest clocks possible.
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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/12 04:28:16 (permalink)
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    prices going up suggest another illegal price fixing scheme, ram is supposed to get cheaper over time
     


    The problem is demand. Smartphone memory demands are causing all memory supplies to be weaker and as a result memory is more expensive. 



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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/14 16:21:53 (permalink)
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    prices going up suggest another illegal price fixing scheme, ram is supposed to get cheaper over time
     


    The problem is demand. Smartphone memory demands are causing all memory supplies to be weaker and as a result memory is more expensive. 




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    Re: 2 dimm vs 4 dimm 2017/10/15 21:21:43 (permalink)
    I've never run more than 2 DIMMs. I've never personally seen the need to and I haven't gone over 16 GB total.

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