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2010/03/31 00:38:06 (permalink)
I noticed this board appears to be almost a clone of my supermicro board I am currently using in my system:

http://www.supermicro.com.../QPI/5500/X8DTH-iF.cfm

With RDIMM memory my board supports up to 192 GB of ram so I didn't see any reason why this wouldn't be the same as the board layout and chipset seems to be the same as the board I use now?

Also I was kind of curious if this is just a rebranded supermicro board as it seemed so similar to my board (minus onboard video/IPMI and plus onboard audio).. Are all the PCI-E slots x8 as well (in x16 slots) or does this actually have full x16 slots?



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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/03/31 05:55:37 (permalink)
Does your supermicro board allow overclocking?


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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/03/31 06:09:21 (permalink)
Punchy

Does your supermicro board allow overclocking?


Of course it doesn't. I know of no server boards that do even if the chipset is actually able to. I just though the layout of the boards seemed too similar to be a coincidence but maybe it was. I am still curious about the answer to my actual question on memory support.



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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/03/31 06:09:45 (permalink)

With larger ram amounts per chip there should be no reason why it should not support this. ITs up to bios tuning to enable this. at lower ram speed I am thinking this should work by default. I have done the exact same thing in the past to many a mobo, stuck more ram in it than it said "on the sticker" as certified and things happily run. Sometimes it takes a bios tweak or 5, but this the manufacturers are mostly happy to give you if you need it. thing is, not many need this ram level. But if you do, and you know what to buy from who and a existing official part number... 

The target market customer for the board at first hand does not need it. But document what ram you want to use, what speed, and let EVGA work on certifying it at your OC levels. The last bit is important, at least in my "old age" and experience, as you are stressing several components here. I cant promise thou as I don't have the card in hand yet. but yes, by logic it should be able to work straight of, or made to work, with a clear yes.

Please correct me here if I am wrong EVGA. 

The Intel chips themselves can certainly address the ram no worry.  

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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/03/31 06:34:49 (permalink)
I figured this was probably the case but I was curious. I currently have dual E5530's and 48 GB of ram in my system now but was curious if this board could take more like my current one could if I used higher density DIMMs:

If the board has full x16 slots that would be nice. I would like to possibly do SLI some day but it seems like I just run out of expansion slot space with my other cards and stuff before I could do it:



If I didn't already pay $480 for the supermicro board I would definitely think about the EVGA as being able to overclock is nice and the IPMI isn't really needed for my home usage box.



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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/03/31 20:35:19 (permalink)
i believe EVGA only coded the BIOS and such for 48gb max, so if you can settle for that then its perfect.  good chassis BTW, i love the norco 4020
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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/01 05:25:13 (permalink)
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i believe EVGA only coded the BIOS and such for 48gb max, so if you can settle for that then its perfect.  good chassis BTW, i love the norco 4020


yeah, tho i stuck more ram than listed in several 5520 based boards than they "certified and listed" but at any kind of hi OC this probably wont work well.... you can then do a 5680 for example to solve that problem as the power is there on the mobo to handle it. Video and post production suites need as much as you can throw at them. 

Those editing suites cost from 100 to 500 USD per hr when rented out, a few seconds here and there and you have a tactical advantage to offer versus your other competitors. The typical editing files are always counted in hundred of gigabytes for HD 2k. 

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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/01 05:59:45 (permalink)
It would be nice to find out that it does support more RAM, and that currently it is mostly a certification issue. That being said I have seen anyone pairing overclocking and 8GB+ RAM modules.
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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/01 08:32:55 (permalink)

Yeah my post on OC of this is pure speculation if this board will handle it. Its a first, and its a SR-2 or Super Record for sure, one far more usable than some OC number on some ranking list. That in my view/book, we all have our needs and what we want to do with the tools at hand and different options of what is cool usable and what ever else you can think of good usage for this mobo. 

By default logic it should work unless the bios invalidates the ram somehow. If it ends up doing that I will ask EVGA for a  new bios revision. Once I get my hands on some ram chips. I will try once I get to it. That in combination with Avid DS as the software tool that need it. The OC is then another level of problems all together. We could solve this with Intel's help, if Intel got round to make another version of the Xeon 5680 with a unlocked multiplier. Then this would be "really easy" for the ram part to enable and get to work in bios and loads on ram buss of this solution for the workstation market for this mobo.   

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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/01 09:03:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1139

here is a interesting read worthy of the time to glance at it, for those interested in this topic

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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/01 21:36:06 (permalink)
I also might have missed it but are all the EVGA board's PCI-E slots x8 or what is the layout?



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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/02 15:42:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
houkouonchi

I also might have missed it but are all the EVGA board's PCI-E slots x8 or what is the layout?


It's covered in a small amount of detail in the spec sheet: http://www.evga.com/produ.s/pdf/270-WS-W555-A1.pdf

Only four of the slots at a time can do x16. Basically you have 64 lanes to divide up among the sluts (if I read the pdf correctly).
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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/02 17:07:06 (permalink)



It's covered in a small amount of detail in the spec sheet: http://www.evga.com/produ.s/pdf/270-WS-W555-A1.pdf

Only four of the slots at a time can do x16. Basically you have 64 lanes to divide up among the sluts (if I read the pdf correctly).


i couldn't help but laugh at his typo. "64 lanes to divide up among the sluts" please excuse my 13 year old immaturity.


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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/03 05:18:22 (permalink)
Yeah I LOL'd at that as well.



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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/05 10:11:04 (permalink)
You won't be seeing anything larger than a 4Gb unbuffered module any time soon anyway so 48GB makes perfect sense. When 8GB modules hit, they can update the BIOS.

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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/05 12:04:53 (permalink)
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http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1139

here is a interesting read worthy of the time to glance at it, for those interested in this topic



orsair_Mike


You won't be seeing anything larger than a 4Gb unbuffered module any time soon anyway so 48GB makes perfect sense. When 8GB modules hit, they can update the BIOS.


Mike, If care to click the link, you click the link you get this bit of info:


press releases
SAMSUNG First to Begin Shipping 40nm-class, 32-Gigabyte Memory Module for Server Applications
Seoul, Korea on Mar 29, 20

Mass production of the 32GB RDIMM is slated to begin next month.


Any thoughts on this Mike?


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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/07 18:51:08 (permalink)
Wow. Patiently waiting for 32gb modules.
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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/07 19:11:05 (permalink)
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Corsair_Mike


You won't be seeing anything larger than a 4Gb unbuffered module any time soon anyway so 48GB makes perfect sense. When 8GB modules hit, they can update the BIOS.


Mike, If care to click the link, you click the link you get this bit of info:


press releases
SAMSUNG First to Begin Shipping 40nm-class, 32-Gigabyte Memory Module for Server Applications
Seoul, Korea on Mar 29, 20

Mass production of the 32GB RDIMM is slated to begin next month.


Any thoughts on this Mike?

Well, I'm not Mike, but he did say you won't see unbuffered modules >4GB any time soon, and these are buffered (registered) DIMMs the press release is talking about.


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Re:192 GB ram support with RDIMM? 2010/04/08 03:14:27 (permalink)

Yeah, my thoughts are that it should be relatively easy to produce non ECC modules when the ECC ones have hit the market.

In any case at this size its handy to have ECC. Lets hope the SAMSUNG gets some good or near perfect yields and manages to make some that are faster than 1066 of these 

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