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2020/11/07 21:24:20 (permalink)
Does this mean that my CPU is bottlenecking the benchmark and causing the low fps?
I have a CPU 2700x, my GPU is evga 3080 FTW3 and the ram is 3000mhz 16gb
Ran on the highest settings @ 1440p 144hz. DLSS/RTS On
Ive been having some issues with other games not meeting the advertised fps for the 3080.
 
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 21:59:20 (permalink)
    You're likely pretty CPU bound if you're using DLSS with that card in conjunction with 1440p resolution (meaning you're rendering the game at an even lower resolution). Try running the game at 1440p RTX on, DLSS off.

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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 22:20:17 (permalink)
    OP you are not alone. Some people are experiencing serious performance issues with this card (myself included)
    e.g. check this thread: "3080 FTW 3 performing worse than 1080ti"
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 22:20:21 (permalink)
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    You're likely pretty CPU bound if you're using DLSS with that card in conjunction with 1440p resolution (meaning you're rendering the game at an even lower resolution). Try running the game at 1440p RTX on, DLSS off.




    Thanks, i'll try that, do you think the cpu bottleneck is causing low util/load on the gpu? Benchmarks seems fine, I get 90%+ utilization, but when I play something like WoW(30-50%) or CodMW(60-70%). I have never seen it go past 90% in games outside of benchmarks.
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 22:22:15 (permalink)
    sLaugR
    OP you are not alone. Some people are experiencing serious performance issues with this card (myself included)
    e.g. check this thread: 




    I really hope its a driver issue, and not the card itself...
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 22:47:27 (permalink)
    It's not a driver issue, or the card. It's your CPU, you cannot compare your fps to review sample fps when they are using far faster CPU than yours. Most of the 3080 reviews were done with a Intel 10900K or 10700K and they are much much faster than your AMD 2700X. Not saying you have a "bad" CPU, but that the review samples you are referring to are done with much faster systems. If you were to upgrade to a AMD 5000 series CPU, you would see much better results. 

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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 22:53:44 (permalink)
    Your point is valid, however, there is something seriously going on with the cards, whether it be a driver issue or a card issue.
     
    There are a few people having unfortunate performance issues and I am not talking about hitting benchmarks from computer enthusiasts.
    My card is performing WORSE than my 1070ti. Fact. I don't care much for benchmarks and haven't even checked what it should be. 
    What I can say is that with this card in my PC, I am getting sub-par performance, and if I switch it out for a 1070ti (my old card) - everything is buttery smooth and higher frames. That shouldn't be.
     
    I have a new MOBO and CPU coming this week. That will be the real test.
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 23:03:51 (permalink)
    If the card isn't performing as it should, it's either power supply, inadequate CPU, or you're playing at too low a resolution.  It could also be a driver issue, but I haven't heard anyone complaining about specific games, other than that newer Call of Duty, Warzone or whatever, that could be a driver optimization issue that hasn't been fixed yet.
     
    From the sound of it, you're at least two of those 3 things.  The 2700x is never going to let that RTX 3080 shine.  You can look up benchmark comparisons of different CPUs in different games & see exactly what I'm talking about.   Is your CPU overclocked at all?  Also, try running with DLSS off as someone else suggested, that is lowering your resolution, which is increasing the burden of the CPU to push enough FPS to make the card happy, which is also lowering overall performance, the 3080 isn't made to be amazing at tiny resolutions (1440p with DLSS on is 1080p or smaller, the 3080 does not perform amazingly well at those resolutions, especially if a CPU is choking it by not feeding it enough throughput).
    What is your power supply?  Worth asking because there are a few folks that experienced performance issues as well that were the result of a borderline/inadequate PSU & a simple PSU upgrade fixed it.

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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 23:20:08 (permalink)
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    If the card isn't performing as it should, it's either power supply, inadequate CPU, or you're playing at too low a resolution.  It could also be a driver issue, but I haven't heard anyone complaining about specific games, other than that newer Call of Duty, Warzone or whatever, that could be a driver optimization issue that hasn't been fixed yet.
     
    From the sound of it, you're at least two of those 3 things.  The 2700x is never going to let that RTX 3080 shine.  You can look up benchmark comparisons of different CPUs in different games & see exactly what I'm talking about.   Is your CPU overclocked at all?  Also, try running with DLSS off as someone else suggested, that is lowering your resolution, which is increasing the burden of the CPU to push enough FPS to make the card happy, which is also lowering overall performance, the 3080 isn't made to be amazing at tiny resolutions (1440p with DLSS on is 1080p or smaller, the 3080 does not perform amazingly well at those resolutions, especially if a CPU is choking it by not feeding it enough throughput).
    What is your power supply?  Worth asking because there are a few folks that experienced performance issues as well that were the result of a borderline/inadequate PSU & a simple PSU upgrade fixed it.




    Yea, thinking the CPU the issue, I've read 2700x won't bottleneck as much in higher resolution settings like 1440p, but I guess it affects it more than I thought. I don't think its the resolution unless  2560x1440p is still to low of a resolution and causing a burden on the cpu.
     
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 23:21:43 (permalink)
    In the other thread, I posted my issues:
     
    Apex Legends - Stuttery, sluggish mess. Feels sluggish even though my frames are high, as well as frequent stutters. Just doesn't feel like what the frames are displaying (140-299 depending on area). No issues with my 1070ti. Raising texture budget to high over low (what I normally play) makes a little difference but that might be placebo. I could achieve 140-230 or so FPS with my 1070ti which was butter smooth).

    Warzone - 100-120 FPS. Feels fine but it really should be doing more, considering I was 120 -130 with my 1070.

    Valorant - Went from 280 FPS from the previous card, to currently 100-120 FPS. NOT acceptable.

    CSGO - Fluctuating FPS ranging from 160-240 or so. Still, my 1070 was outputting easily 200+ at all times.
     
    I am running an almost brand new Corsair RM850x (purchased 2 months ago) which I checked is on the list of PSU's that are known to work. All wires setup correctly, checked 3 times. The PSU powered by 1070ti no problem, didn't show any power issues - albeit a less juicy card, but still.
    The CPU was overclocked, however, I have since tried default settings and it didn't help. 
    The in-game settings don't matter, all on low or all maxed out. Problems persist.
     
    The games I've been playing are 1080p (i have a 240hz 1080p TN Panel that I use for First Person Shooters. I have a second monitor for other games e.g. Assassins Creed, GTA, Red Dead, Cyberpunk when released, that I care about looking good and having all the DLSS features etc).
     
    I never heard or read anywhere stating that if you game on 1080p, don't purchase one of these cards because your frames performance will be worse than a 1070ti. That doesn't make any sense. I understand if I am being bottlenecked by my CPU and tbh I expected it, but these cards should be able to pump out games on low settings. To get worse performance than a card 2 generations behind, simply because the graphics are on low and playing on 1080p, is absurd and not what I would want or expect from my card. 
     
     
    One thing that I think maybe an issue, they don't like slower RAM. My ram speed is 3200 32gb. I tried overclocking my RAM to 3400 and I got boot fail. tried 3333 or something and managed to get into  Apex and play have a match before it crashed. However, the stuttering was absent I noticed. Unfortunately, it isn't stable and I tried a memtest which had errors straight away.
    SO it could be that you need faster RAM. Inconclusive though. I have the AMD 5900x and an x570 MOBO coming next week. That will be the answer. Been an expensive upgrade, I tell you that.
     
     
    *Also worth noting, a guy in the other threat also has these exact same issues and is running a 3900x*
    post edited by sLaugR - 2020/11/07 23:34:14
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/07 23:22:12 (permalink)
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    It's not a driver issue, or the card. It's your CPU, you cannot compare your fps to review sample fps when they are using far faster CPU than yours. Most of the 3080 reviews were done with a Intel 10900K or 10700K and they are much much faster than your AMD 2700X. Not saying you have a "bad" CPU, but that the review samples you are referring to are done with much faster systems. If you were to upgrade to a AMD 5000 series CPU, you would see much better results. 




    Yea, that is what I ultimately thought, I really didn't want to replace the mobo(x370) + cpu, thanks for confirming it! 
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/08 02:35:52 (permalink)
    Also one quick question, if my gpu usage is only 50% does the memory clock still max out in my case at 9502mhz?
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/08 02:42:12 (permalink)
    With a 3080 why are you running 1440p with DLSS on? It would hurt image quality to make the game run faster if the GPU was the bottle neck. DLSS is more of for getting 4K playable when the CPU isn't the limiting factor. I would run the benchmark again with DLSS turned off.

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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/08 07:47:24 (permalink)
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    You're likely pretty CPU bound if you're using DLSS with that card in conjunction with 1440p resolution (meaning you're rendering the game at an even lower resolution). Try running the game at 1440p RTX on, DLSS off.




    Thanks, i'll try that, do you think the cpu bottleneck is causing low util/load on the gpu? Benchmarks seems fine, I get 90%+ utilization, but when I play something like WoW(30-50%) or CodMW(60-70%). I have never seen it go past 90% in games outside of benchmarks.




    If you're running these games at 1440p with the 2700x you're going to run into CPU limits a lot with a 3080 and see low-ish utilization. The card is just brutally fast for 1440p in all but THE most demanding titles (none of the ones you've mentioned yet).
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/08 08:39:22 (permalink)
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    With a 3080 why are you running 1440p with DLSS on? It would hurt image quality to make the game run faster if the GPU was the bottle neck. DLSS is more of for getting 4K playable when the CPU isn't the limiting factor. I would run the benchmark again with DLSS turned off.




     
    Right, exactly.
     
    The OP just needs to open GFORCE Experience and just optimize the game.
     
    It will be much better.

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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2020/11/08 13:50:17 (permalink)
    Yes, that’s exactly what it means.
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2021/01/09 19:04:23 (permalink)
    Guys, I maybe a little late in this thread but I'm seeing an odd result with SOTTR. Recently upgraded CPU from 2700x to 5800x and I have seen improvement in all benchmarks I use except SOTTR. GPU is evga 1080 ti and with 2700x CPU I was getting ~105 FPS average. Whereas when CPU replaced with 5800x (everything else is the same), average FPS is down to ~69! This is the only game went down in avg FPS.
     
    On 2700x, it tells me gpu bound = 39% while 100% on 5800x but getting lower FPS average. Isn't that backwards?


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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2021/02/06 16:15:44 (permalink)
    I'll add to this and say that you definitely need a new CPU. 
     
    You have an RTX 3080 and aren't even cracking 80 fps at 1440p in SotTR at 1440p. 
     
    Meanwhile, on my Linux gaming rig, my RTX 3090 gets 155 fps at 1440p, highest preset. 
     
    More than double. Even though I should only get 10-15% more fps than you. You should be at 130-ish with that GPU. 
     
    What's the difference in our systems? Well, I have 32GB of RAM, but that's not it. 
     
    My CPU is a 5800X. And my GPU Bound result is 95%. 
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    Re: 14% GPU Bound - Tomb Raider Benchmark - 3080 FTW3 2021/06/26 23:33:12 (permalink)
    i have the i7 8700k and the RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra and in the benchmark @1440p avg FPS is around 72 and 99% GPU bound so i think thats good right?
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