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2021/05/06 06:03:26 (permalink)
Finally I install AiO on my1080TI, using Kraken G12,Corsair H75, custom heatsinks on VRM/VRAM.
But effect is disapointing- 62 degree on load, only 8-10 less than custom MSI cooling.
I tried different positions for corsair cooler, changed thermal paste on GPU.Kraken Fan on GPU working on 100%, Corsairs 2xfan on 50%.
 
Is tempreature 62 Celsius ok on 1080 TI in setup with Kraken G12 cooling by Corsair H75?

 
people with similliar cooling with Kraken G12 have 50 degree,so sth is not ok with my spec
 
Should I be worry about pump condition,wondering about changing the cooling fluid/cleaning? Theoretically Corsair H75 was used only a litlle ,like monht or two be previous owner.
Is changing/cleaning fluid possible and able to do it on Corsair H75? If so, how to do it,any link with guide will be welcome.
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    Eronus
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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/06 07:19:09 (permalink)
    Check if thermogel was properly distributed. The radiator must be above the pump, not getting air inside. Also, is a small radiator for heat....install-it in fron of pc pushing cold air inside the case.....use in top 2 fans to extract hot air out
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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/06 08:08:10 (permalink)
    how does thermodynamic/fluid works, I mean why if radiator is below pump gets more air? is it about air inside tubes? Or it's about pump which has to works stronger to push fluid when radiator is below?
     
    can't quite imagine/understand this
     
    image will explanation will helps
     
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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/06 14:08:01 (permalink)
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    how does thermodynamic/fluid works, I mean why if radiator is below pump gets more air? is it about air inside tubes? Or it's about pump which has to works stronger to push fluid when radiator is below?
     
    can't quite imagine/understand this
     
    image will explanation will helps
     
    regards


    Basically when you mount the GPU radiator, you want the hoses on the bottom of the radiator. That way, any air, and there is always some air, stays in the upper tank of the rad and does not get sucked back through the pump. Ideally, the rad should be slightly above the GPU. It can be below. The most important thing is the hoses being on the bottom of the radiator, when installed.

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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/09 10:32:02 (permalink)
    I'm thinking this could be a fan issue or perhaps the filter that keeps the dust out? I've got the same AIO as you and sometimes it gets up to 58c. When I remove the front of my case and the dust filter it drops down to low 50s.

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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/13 08:49:40 (permalink)
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    how does thermodynamic/fluid works, I mean why if radiator is below pump gets more air? is it about air inside tubes? Or it's about pump which has to works stronger to push fluid when radiator is below?
     
    can't quite imagine/understand this
     
    image will explanation will helps
     
    regards


    Basically when you mount the GPU radiator, you want the hoses on the bottom of the radiator. That way, any air, and there is always some air, stays in the upper tank of the rad and does not get sucked back through the pump. Ideally, the rad should be slightly above the GPU. It can be below. The most important thing is the hoses being on the bottom of the radiator, when installed.


     You mean these hoses should be inversely at the the botom?
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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/13 09:58:02 (permalink)
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    how does thermodynamic/fluid works, I mean why if radiator is below pump gets more air? is it about air inside tubes? Or it's about pump which has to works stronger to push fluid when radiator is below?
     
    can't quite imagine/understand this
     
    image will explanation will helps
     
    regards


    Basically when you mount the GPU radiator, you want the hoses on the bottom of the radiator. That way, any air, and there is always some air, stays in the upper tank of the rad and does not get sucked back through the pump. Ideally, the rad should be slightly above the GPU. It can be below. The most important thing is the hoses being on the bottom of the radiator, when installed.


    You mean these hoses should be inversely at the the botom?


    Absolutely yes. The rad hoses should be on the bottom. That way any air is entrapped in the expansion tank at the top of the radiator and does not get sucked back through the pump.

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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/13 10:24:02 (permalink)
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    how does thermodynamic/fluid works, I mean why if radiator is below pump gets more air? is it about air inside tubes? Or it's about pump which has to works stronger to push fluid when radiator is below?
     
    can't quite imagine/understand this
     
    image will explanation will helps
     
    regards


    Basically when you mount the GPU radiator, you want the hoses on the bottom of the radiator. That way, any air, and there is always some air, stays in the upper tank of the rad and does not get sucked back through the pump. Ideally, the rad should be slightly above the GPU. It can be below. The most important thing is the hoses being on the bottom of the radiator, when installed.


    You mean these hoses should be inversely at the the botom?


    Absolutely yes. The rad hoses should be on the bottom. That way any air is entrapped in the expansion tank at the top of the radiator and does not get sucked back through the pump.


    But if the pump pushes fluid through expansion tank, air wil be sucked anyway before fluid goes, does not it?
    Can quite imagine that, could you draw a simple picture?
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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/13 10:30:46 (permalink)
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    how does thermodynamic/fluid works, I mean why if radiator is below pump gets more air? is it about air inside tubes? Or it's about pump which has to works stronger to push fluid when radiator is below?
     
    can't quite imagine/understand this
     
    image will explanation will helps
     
    regards


    Basically when you mount the GPU radiator, you want the hoses on the bottom of the radiator. That way, any air, and there is always some air, stays in the upper tank of the rad and does not get sucked back through the pump. Ideally, the rad should be slightly above the GPU. It can be below. The most important thing is the hoses being on the bottom of the radiator, when installed.


    You mean these hoses should be inversely at the the botom?


    Absolutely yes. The rad hoses should be on the bottom. That way any air is entrapped in the expansion tank at the top of the radiator and does not get sucked back through the pump.


    But if the pump pushes fluid through expansion tank, air wil be sucked anyway before fluid goes, does not it?
    Can quite imagine that, could you draw a simple picture?




    What? You cannot imagine air rising to the top of the tank and staying there? Why would you need a picture of of bubbles of air rising to the top? Where is this 'air sucked away' to? There are no hoses on the top tank to suck the air back out.  It circulates WITH the fluid and will eventually, with time the circulating bubbles end up in the top tank. And again, since there will not be a intake hose at the top if the rad is installed correctly, no air will be drawn back in. If you shake your radiator, you will notice there is already AIR IN THE TANK because you cannot completely fill the loop. Could YOU draw a picture of what you're saying as it makes no sense to me at all.
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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/13 11:15:06 (permalink)
    I mean even if the air is at the top of tank, fluid must go through every ribs of coller , right?So when the fluid goes it will push the air in the top of the tank and goes out through exhaust hose, eventually it will go through pump and again again?
     
    correct me if I'm wrong 
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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/13 12:54:16 (permalink)
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    I mean even if the air is at the top of tank, fluid must go through every ribs of coller , right?So when the fluid goes it will push the air in the top of the tank and goes out through exhaust hose, eventually it will go through pump and again again?
     
    correct me if I'm wrong 


    AIO units are sealed, so the small air pocket that is left in the entire units setup from when they fill it at the factory, will naturally want to migrate to the highest point because air is a gas and lighter than a fluid, the coolant. They leave the small air pocket for evaporation/expansion of fluid, since its a closed system and has nowhere to go. Now, after maybe 5 years or so the plastic black tubing that connects the block/pump and the rad will eventually absorb some of the liquid, which is called permeation. That is why you want to have the rad at least a inch or two higher than the pump on the gpu, preferably hoses down but you can put them up top too if you must, so that air doesnt naturally settle in your pump, which will reduce the amount of fluid that can go thru there that is also used to lubricate the pump and keep it cool also. Hope that helps some.

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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/14 22:50:23 (permalink)
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    I mean even if the air is at the top of tank, fluid must go through every ribs of coller , right?So when the fluid goes it will push the air in the top of the tank and goes out through exhaust hose, eventually it will go through pump and again again?
     
    correct me if I'm wrong 


    It goes up one side, the pump output  to the expansion chamber then down the other to the pump intake. The flow through the rad is not fast enough to force the bubbles back through the rad once the air has settled in the top of the radiator. It really is not that different from a car radiator.

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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/18 07:24:50 (permalink)
    I get very similar temperatures with EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid. Single radiator fan at 1700 RPM (Arctic P12), pump is running at 45% - speed doesn't affect temps vs pump 100% but whining is gone.

    My radiator is at the back of the case, blowing out the warm air of the case through radiator. Overclocked core @2000Mhz, memory @6000MHz. Under heavy load GPU temp 62-65C (Unigine Superposition 2K + Prime95 no-avx). At Unigine Heaven 1080p extreme about 60-62C after 30 minutes run.

    I don't know what is the water temperature running inside the rad, but temperature of the air blowing through the radiator is almost 48-49C under heavy load.

    I control radiator fan and the pump of the FTW3 with Corsair Commander Pro.

    Yeah, I know I could little bit lower temperatures if the radiator would be placed in the front of the case as intake, but I'm pleased with the temperatures and better aesthetics 😇
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    Re: 1080 TI -AIO kraken G12 Corsair H75 - 62 Celsius 2021/05/19 20:46:52 (permalink)
    i recommend making the pump the lower part of the system, the bubbles will float to the top thus increasing efficiency and heat transfer

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