ahvidston
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Only EVGA has 100% POSCAP capacitors on the X79 FTW and Classified motherboards. Why should I pay more for this? What does this give to the end user? How is this different/better than the high end capacitors being used by other manufacturers?
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 01:02:16
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A POSCAP is a tantalum capacitor as opposed to an electrolytic. Tantalums offer higher capacitance in a smaller, more stable and heavier-duty package than electrolytics, hence their slight expense. And they beat the pants off of mylar films for sure...
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 01:08:06
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They work better a low temps as well. Also, less Equivalent Series Resistance (ESR) and has good characteristics for high frequency applications like computers.
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 08:17:28
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So in essence this means better stability in extreme scenarios and better reliability and normal computing situations? Why don't we see this on the other state of the art motherboards that other manufacturers provide?
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 09:16:05
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Because they don't want to spend the additional money.... ahvidston So in essence this means better stability in extreme scenarios and better reliability and normal computing situations? Why don't we see this on the other state of the art motherboards that other manufacturers provide?
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 10:22:04
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rjohnson11 Because they don't want to spend the additional money.... ahvidston So in essence this means better stability in extreme scenarios and better reliability and normal computing situations? Why don't we see this on the other state of the art motherboards that other manufacturers provide? +1 !
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 12:42:55
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Other oem's are more interested in putting out a product that works from the getgo, how dare they.
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 12:58:10
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Paying for better caps, not when ya get an inferior bios. Just my .2
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 13:01:32
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This is some information from Internet POSCAP is a solid electrolytic chip capacitor. The Anode is sintered Tantalum and the Cathode is a highly conductive polymer formed from SANYO's original method. POSCAP has low E.S.R. (Equivalent Series Resistance) levels and achieves excellent performance under high frequencies while maintaining low profile design and high capacitance. In addition, it has high reliability and high heat resistance making "POSCAP" the ideal chip capacitor for digital and high frequency devices. - POSCAP's conductive polymer achieves the ideal combination of low ESR and impedance at high frequencies, noise-absorbing characteristics, and the ability to handle high ripple currents. - Terminal plating is Palladium (Pd) and Gold (Au). Since production began in 1997, the production of POSCAP has never involved the use of any lead (Pb). - Height ranges from 3.8mm (Case size D4) to 0.9mm (S09). - TP, TH, TQ Series carry a wide capacitance range. - At -55°C ~ 85°C, 105°C, 125°C (depending on the parts). - Due to the use of high temperature resistant conductive polymer, many POSCAP series are able to achieve 105°C*2,000Hrs. - Due to the conductive polymer's self-healing ability POSCAP are are guaranteed for up to 20A (Ampere) of inrush current. - In the case of a short circuit, POSCAP's structure allows it to avoid burning as easily as other Tantalum Capacitors. That is reason maybe why X79 FTW, X79 Classified, SR-X Classified no this(cheaper) version of caps ??? I want next board with 100% for me too. But people usually see 15 microscopic phases on other boards and think 18 phases and that board is fantastic but you can destroy fingerprint if touch that during ordinary gaming. I think 8-10-12 Phase MAX if they are good and quality made are enough for everything. EVGA if find way to improve BIOS and people to better write software ... EVGA will smash others like ants.
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 14:31:09
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doorules Other oem's are more interested in putting out a product that works from the getgo, how dare they. Indeed, the sheer audacity of these other motherboard makers! Who in their right mind would want a working motherboard?
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 15:00:35
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Johnny_Utah doorules Other oem's are more interested in putting out a product that works from the getgo, how dare they. Indeed, the sheer audacity of these other motherboard makers! Who in their right mind would want a working motherboard?
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 21:30:27
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Hasn't all that bad BIOS stuff been fixed by now? If so this board is an even competitor with the other major manufacturers. I just don't understand the value in these POSCAP capacitors to the user who isn't an extreme overclocker.
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Re:100% POSCAP Capacitors
2012/11/14 22:03:28
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ahvidston ...I just don't understand the value in these POSCAP capacitors to the user who isn't an extreme overclocker. There are quite a few things that seemingly do not make sense from outside "the circle". Take, for example, PSUs. Some folks will calculate down to within five Watts of what they need and pay for nothing more, others enjoy having one with a large margin for error - which some call potential, others call insurance against PSU stress and a longer life. Try convincing a member of any of those groups to change allegiances by having them defend the logic of their choice sometime. Ah c'mon - you're not even going to try it once?...
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