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2011/10/27 09:25:26 (permalink)
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This temporary Guide is being replaced by my "Ultimate Battlefield 3 Guide" in the 500 series fourms
http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1323124
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ok guys, decided to push out a quick guide for getting better performance and dealing with issues in BF3
 
-This is a completly temporary referance Guide-
----->THIS IS NOT MY FINAL BATTLEFIELD 3 GUIDE (that will come after the patch and new Nvidia driver)
*Nvidia has another driver coming and Dice/EA has some patches planned
  The information below is just to help users play until the Patch/Driver are released (possibly this week)
 
First up is what driver to use
Nvidia 285.79 BETA is the driver you need to use for BF3. (285.62 was the previous best)
-->MANIAC recommends using Nvidia 285.79
 
Next up are your Nvidia Control Panel settings (Manage 3D Settings Panel)
Using the correct settings in the NVCP is critical. During testing certain settings have caused in-game issues.

 
MANIAC recommends you -match- every single setting in the above screenshot (not just the ones in RED)
*using the above settings should help users who are having issues.
**Remember everyones cofig is different in some manner. The settings above are to try and help users who are having problems, it may or may NOT help. They are a "suggested" starting point to help users run better. 
  
Ambient Occlusion must be set ot OFF. Having it ON will cause serious issues.
Antialasing-Transparency should be set to MULTISAMPLE
Maximum pre-rendered frames needs to be set at a value of (2). Leaving it at 3 can cause issues.
Texture Filtering- Negitive LOD bias should be set to ALLOW. Using CLAMP can cause issues.
Texture Filtering- QUALITY should be set to QUALITY. Do NOT set anything else for this value.
Triple buffering- OFF should be set to OFF. Do NOT turn this setting ON even if your using VSync (in-game)
Vertical Sync needs to be set to "Use the 3D Application setting". Do NOT force Vsync in the NVCP, use the in-game option.
*Important Note for SLI users
You MUST use the "Nvidia Recommended" setting for SLI, as this is the included custom SLI profile for BF3! 
  
 
Next up is the in-game VIDEO options panel
I am not going to go into all the details and the complex differences between all the settings, I am just going to post a Screenshot of the BASE SETTINGS to use to get the game working properly. The settings I have posted below are not MAX ULTRA settings (what I use)
-->but are tested to provide the best quality, moderate VRAM use and most importantly STABLITY

 
MANIAC recommends that users who are having issues, use ALL of the above settings for testing
The above settings provide a good quality experience, moderate VRAM loading and most importantly, the settings used above -and- the posted NVCP settings work very well together. The NVCP settings matched with the above in-game settings, will FIX most of the VRAM and game/driver bug issues that some users are having using anything less than dual 3gig 580's in SLI. 
*Important note for users of single cards with lower VRAM (1gig and below)
It is suggested that the (3) Ultra settings in the above screenshot be changed to "HIGH" if you experiance any issues
 
Next up, a bug in the Mouse setting is causing many users to have issues.

MANIAC recommends turning "Raw Mouse Input" to the setting of OFF
 
**Always after making changes in the BF3 options panel...
Save the settings
Re-enter the game
Hit escape, and check that the settings changes you made were saved correctly...
Then CLOSE BF3, Battlelog and ORIGIN
Restart everything, enter a server and deploy.. then check that settings are still showing the changes you made
*Some changes will NOT have any effect---> until a map change or a game restart
 
  
  
  
 
Just wanted to post up a good base of NVCP settings and in-game VIDEO options for those users who are having problems
I expect many issues to be resolved with patching and the new Nvidia driver.
Right now it appears that users running incorrect NVCP settings and in-game settings is causing alot of issues...
There is also a large problem with the way the game loads out of Battlelog and the Shaders compile while waiting for a map the first time you run it, if the VRAM buffer at that time is exceeded, issues will occur when running the game even though VRAM use is "lower" when your in the game vs loading. I also expect this will be addressed with either a patch of Driver fix...
 
 
Good luck and happy testing. I hope this helps you guys having problems
 
*My full Guide will not be coming out, until we see what the next Nvidia driver and DICE/EA patches bring over the next few days. 







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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 09:31:47 (permalink)
    Keep it coming Maniac...  I'm installing tomorrow and could use the pointers. Thanks!

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 09:35:48 (permalink)
    Wraith.

    Keep it coming Maniac...  I'm installing tomorrow and could use the pointers. Thanks!

    I disabled motion blur. Gave me a noticeable boost in performance. 

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 09:38:08 (permalink)
    I despise Blur but like DOF....
     
    But as far as NVCP , I just used the previous settings like in BFBC2 & it seems to be solid enough

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 09:43:25 (permalink)
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    I despise Blur but like DOF....

    But as far as NVCP , I just used the previous settings like in BFBC2 & it seems to be solid enough

    Same - Love DoF. Always turn it up a bit. Gives me the sense of more speed and less sluggish. And well...you have more depth of field. LOL!
     
    Also kept my same settings as always. Turn ambient occlusion off in NVCP, but on in-game. V-sync forced Off...etc.

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 09:49:29 (permalink)
    Thx Manic. I'm going to try this out tonight.

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 10:09:09 (permalink)
    I'll be trying this when I get home tonight woot woot



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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 10:21:40 (permalink)
    Awesome! Will try your settings above and report back tonite.
     


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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 10:52:06 (permalink)
    Awesoooooome Maniac..will try these later tonight and will give my feedback :)
     
     

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 11:22:50 (permalink)
    Whelp personally I just use the default NVCP settings... In game is all maxed except for I have reduced motion blur and turned off 'raw mouse input' of course. As an aside, 'ambient occlusion' is not supported so there is no way to change that in the NvCP game profile.
     

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 11:24:58 (permalink)
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 11:34:56 (permalink)
    Ok for some reason my game become jerkier and I didn't like the performance...hmmmmmm, strange.

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 11:47:58 (permalink)
    SpeedMax

    Ok for some reason my game become jerkier and I didn't like the performance...hmmmmmm, strange.


    Always after making changes in the BF3 options panel...
    Save the settings
    Re-enter the game
    Hit escape, and check that the settings changes you made were saved correctly...
    Then CLOSE BF3, Battlelog and ORIGIN
    Restart everything, enter a server and deploy.. then check that settings are still showing the changes you made
    *Some changes will NOT have any effect---> until a map change or a game restart
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 11:51:57 (permalink)
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    SpeedMax

    Ok for some reason my game become jerkier and I didn't like the performance...hmmmmmm, strange.


    Always after making changes in the BF3 options panel...
    Save the settings
    Re-enter the game
    Hit escape, and check that the settings changes you made were saved correctly...
    Then CLOSE BF3, Battlelog and ORIGIN
    Restart everything, enter a server and deploy.. then check that settings are still showing the changes you made
    *Some changes will NOT have any effect---> until a map change or a game restart

     
    Alright will do as adivsed and try again...thanks maniac :)

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 11:52:27 (permalink)
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    Whelp personally I just use the default NVCP settings... In game is all maxed except for I have reduced motion blur and turned off 'raw mouse input' of course. As an aside, 'ambient occlusion' is not supported so there is no way to change that in the NvCP game profile.




    The OP has posted Global profile changes but you are setting a program-specific profile for BF3.  If one or the other is changed isn't it the same thing relative to BF3?  (ignoring global effect on other games)

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 11:55:27 (permalink)
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    SpeedMax

    Ok for some reason my game become jerkier and I didn't like the performance...hmmmmmm, strange.


    Always after making changes in the BF3 options panel...
    Save the settings
    Re-enter the game
    Hit escape, and check that the settings changes you made were saved correctly...
    Then CLOSE BF3, Battlelog and ORIGIN
    Restart everything, enter a server and deploy.. then check that settings are still showing the changes you made
    *Some changes will NOT have any effect---> until a map change or a game restart


    Alright will do as adivsed and try again...thanks maniac :)


    Remember bro, whatever works for you is "Best"... everyones config is different
    You got dual 580's like I do... the settings I posted are NOT what you or I would use with the horsepower we have.
     
    What I posted is is NVCP and in-game Video options... to help users who are having serious issues running the game.
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 12:02:53 (permalink)
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    HeavyHemi

    Whelp personally I just use the default NVCP settings... In game is all maxed except for I have reduced motion blur and turned off 'raw mouse input' of course. As an aside, 'ambient occlusion' is not supported so there is no way to change that in the NvCP game profile.




    The OP has posted Global profile changes but you are setting a program-specific profile for BF3.  If one or the other is changed isn't it the same thing relative to BF3?  (ignoring global effect on other games)


    If you look at the "Program setting" tab for the included BF3.exe profile you will see that it "defaults" to whatever value is set in the Global settings tab (except for what is noted below)
    -->Ambiant Occlusion is "disabled" as BF3 uses its own in-game method
    -->The SLI profile for BF3 (included)
    --> Application controlled Antialising is "Forced" to prevent users from using settings that are incompatable with BF3
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide for users having issues 2011/10/27 12:07:23 (permalink)
    I can not see the pictures in this thread can anyone help, I tried r/click and show picture but no luck. Just an X where the picture should show?
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide for users having issues 2011/10/27 12:17:04 (permalink)
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    I can not see the pictures in this thread can anyone help, I tried r/click and show picture but no luck. Just an X where the picture should show?


    Try clearing your browser and then reloading the page
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 12:17:06 (permalink)
    staypuft

    HeavyHemi

    Whelp personally I just use the default NVCP settings... In game is all maxed except for I have reduced motion blur and turned off 'raw mouse input' of course. As an aside, 'ambient occlusion' is not supported so there is no way to change that in the NvCP game profile.




    The OP has posted Global profile changes but you are setting a program-specific profile for BF3.  If one or the other is changed isn't it the same thing relative to BF3?  (ignoring global effect on other games)

    Personally I would never change the Global Profile for a game as this would affect all the other games as well. Some titles are not compatible with multi-sampling for example.

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide for users having issues 2011/10/27 12:19:18 (permalink)
    Can't wait for your full BF3 guide!
     
    Also, the power mode shows "Adaptive" in your screen but I thought that ALWAYS has to be on "Prefer Maximum Performance", no?

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide for users having issues 2011/10/27 12:22:30 (permalink)
    Baasha

    Can't wait for your full BF3 guide!

    Also, the power mode shows "Adaptive" in your screen but I thought that ALWAYS has to be on "Prefer Maximum Performance", no?

    Most of the time that setting doesn't make any difference in game. There were a few titles, Fallout 3 being an example where the GPU would change power states in game causing stuttering. It won't hurt to change that to 'Prefer Max Perf' in the game profile.

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 12:24:47 (permalink)
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    HeavyHemi

    Whelp personally I just use the default NVCP settings... In game is all maxed except for I have reduced motion blur and turned off 'raw mouse input' of course. As an aside, 'ambient occlusion' is not supported so there is no way to change that in the NvCP game profile.




    The OP has posted Global profile changes but you are setting a program-specific profile for BF3.  If one or the other is changed isn't it the same thing relative to BF3?  (ignoring global effect on other games)

    Personally I would never change the Global Profile for a game as this would affect all the other games as well. Some titles are not compatible with multi-sampling for example.


    Agreed
    But since many users get into trouble with profiles, and profiles are deleted during a Clean intstall...
    My BFBC2 Guide and my BF3 guide will be suggesting changes in the Global settings tab.
    *if users have any problems using other games, all they need to do is hit the "RESET" button in the global tab and it bcomes a non-issue.
     
    My advice and posted information is for running BF3.... and nothing else
     
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide for users having issues 2011/10/27 12:26:39 (permalink)
    Baasha

    Can't wait for your full BF3 guide!

    Also, the power mode shows "Adaptive" in your screen but I thought that ALWAYS has to be on "Prefer Maximum Performance", no?

     
    BF3 (unlike some other titles) appears to have no problems or issues running with the setting of "Adaptive" and Nvidia driver 285.62
    So I am suggesting that setting 

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide for users having issues 2011/10/27 12:33:51 (permalink)
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    Baasha

    Can't wait for your full BF3 guide!

    Also, the power mode shows "Adaptive" in your screen but I thought that ALWAYS has to be on "Prefer Maximum Performance", no?


    BF3 (unlike some other titles) appears to have no problems or issues running with the setting of "Adaptive" and Nvidia driver 285.62
    So I am suggesting that setting 

     
    Any particular advantage in running "Adaptive" versus "Performance"?

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide for users having issues 2011/10/27 12:37:23 (permalink)
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    Can't wait for your full BF3 guide!

    Also, the power mode shows "Adaptive" in your screen but I thought that ALWAYS has to be on "Prefer Maximum Performance", no?


    BF3 (unlike some other titles) appears to have no problems or issues running with the setting of "Adaptive" and Nvidia driver 285.62
    So I am suggesting that setting 


    Any particular advantage in running "Adaptive" versus "Performance"?


    The videocard clock behavior is much better when using adaptive
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide for users having issues 2011/10/27 13:16:19 (permalink)
    Thanks for the post, maniac. It's certainly timely for me since I had a couple of bsod's yesterday and a couple on opening day. I'm running 2560x1440 res with two GTX 580's in sli with 1.5gb of vram each. I started out at Ultra settings with 4xaa and my memory usage reached 1495 (with Aero turned off). So I've been back pedalling to see if I can find a good compromise between performance and stability. I'll give your settings a shot.
    Thanks again!!
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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 14:12:35 (permalink)
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    Whelp personally I just use the default NVCP settings... In game is all maxed except for I have reduced motion blur and turned off 'raw mouse input' of course. As an aside, 'ambient occlusion' is not supported so there is no way to change that in the NvCP game profile.




    The OP has posted Global profile changes but you are setting a program-specific profile for BF3.  If one or the other is changed isn't it the same thing relative to BF3?  (ignoring global effect on other games)

    Personally I would never change the Global Profile for a game as this would affect all the other games as well. Some titles are not compatible with multi-sampling for example.


    Agreed
    But since many users get into trouble with profiles, and profiles are deleted during a Clean intstall...
    My BFBC2 Guide and my BF3 guide will be suggesting changes in the Global settings tab.
    *if users have any problems using other games, all they need to do is hit the "RESET" button in the global tab and it bcomes a non-issue.

    My advice and posted information is for running BF3.... and nothing else


    Yes but installing drivers also changes the global profile back to default as well. Half dozen of one, six of the other. Using the game profiles IMO are better.

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 15:37:07 (permalink)
    Would you use the same settings you have listed in the NVCP for 580 sli?
     
    Certain tree and grass textures flicker, and everything is a little jerky in general.  I am hoping new drivers n such will resolve it.

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    Re:MANIAC's BF3 -temporary- Quick Guide 2011/10/27 15:55:15 (permalink)
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    Would you use the same settings you have listed in the NVCP for 580 sli?

    Certain tree and grass textures flicker, and everything is a little jerky in general.  I am hoping new drivers n such will resolve it.

    I'm running 580 SLI. There's an issue with some textures that is supposed to be fixed with either a patch or a driver release. Might be a combination of both. As far as in game settings, the only things I changed from everything being on max, is turned 'raw mouse input' off. That seemed to eliminate the stutters and I reduced motion blur to about 25% just for appearance. All of my Nvidia control panel settings are on their default settings for the game profile and it runs very nice for me YMMV.

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