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Hey Initially I was going to buy another GPU for test to to be 2x sure but I give up. I had A LOT of issues with my system over past 8 moths + I had blue screens, crashes etc etc. Everything started when I bought new Titan X. Since then everything was a nightmare. Over the period of 8 months I have replaced, Motherboard, CPU, Ram, PSU, HDD, Case. The only reason why I have not replaced Titan X was because after a week of experiencing issues I took the card to shop with my PC and let them test it. Problem was they did not find any fault. Then they replaced the titan any way and send me home. Problem is that I still experience issues. Its not software related because it happens with many different softwares at many different levels. I'm now hands down dont know what to do. Its 6k workstation that was in 90% replaced and now still experience issues... ehh.. I've attached issues of the errors I was experiencing lately :    I work in CGI environment. I use Titan to play games, use PS, maya, vred etc etc. Bottom line is I dont know if its titan but I know its titan because everything else has been replaced... ehh "£$%!" !!! The titan pass all stress test marks and benchmarks. So the shop will not replace it. But the second I start use it in normal environment it crashes and died. What can I do ? :- ( btw. I just remember I posted here already once early after the issues happen... http://forums.evga.com/Titan-X-crashes-Photoshop-and-other-apps-m2358985.aspx I do not get bluescreens any more but system is still unstable :- (((
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/09 12:19:35
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That only could be some graphic problem. You had much faster ways to test what is problem. Replacing TITAN X with any GeForce or Radeon, if graphic card is problem after cleaning with Display Driver Uninstaller and installation new WHQL driver picture will become normal. And you should first borrow some normal GPU than RMA or investing in new one. 100% working reference back up card is best friend. Less chance for instability because reference clock, easy for fast installation. Only it's better if card is not much older than main card and if power consumption is similar because than she could could be and tester for PSU.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/09 12:37:40
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Not sure where from can I get another Titan X to compare power usage. But I tried it on 2 different PSU's same issues.
I'll buy 30£ gpu tommorow the 610gtx or something like that to try.
Its not driver issues. I had most of them installed for testing for past 8 months.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/09 12:40:52
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Not sure where from can I get another Titan X to compare power usage. But I tried it on 2 different PSU's same issues.
I'll buy 30£ gpu tommorow the 610gtx or something like that to try.
Its not driver issues. I had most of them installed for testing for past 8 months.
Have you tried 347.88? If not, I would highly recommend that you try it as it's a really stable driver. It's either the card itself or a driver/software problem since you have replaced everything else.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
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+1 to Sajin. It is one of the most stable drivers. Do you possibly get this problem while in the BIOS screen at all? If so, then its not related to the drivers. But it does sound like its a driver issue. The replacements rule out many of the possibilities.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/09 18:40:53
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Dariusz1989
Not sure where from can I get another Titan X to compare power usage. But I tried it on 2 different PSU's same issues.
I'll buy 30£ gpu tommorow the 610gtx or something like that to try.
Its not driver issues. I had most of them installed for testing for past 8 months.
Power consumption of TITAN X is same as most high end NVIDIA graphic cards last 5 years and any graphic as GTX480/580/680/780 or newest cards will show you is it problem with your TITAN X.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/09 19:16:12
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just for kick have you check your video cable to make sure it connected also see it does it on a tv or another monitor sometimes cables are lose or do go bad
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
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I've updated to the drivers listed below using DDU. Same issue its even worse I cant run GPU based render any more it just crashes with error.
I replaced:
Motherboard
CPU
Ram
PSU - tried 2x
HDD - some of them really.
HDD cables
GPU>LCD cables
PSU power cable
And most of the parts really...
Still GPU based OpenCL, PyQT + etc etc crashes. I never had it before and its fairly stressful...
Will try picking up tomorrow 30£ gpu 610 nvidia see how that works.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/14 16:19:57
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it looks like he's getting corruption on the desktop and after checking connections and new
drivers and all the hardware REPLACING its got to be the card ....MEMMORY ?
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 03:46:45
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it looks like he's getting corruption on the desktop and after checking connections and new
drivers and all the hardware REPLACING its got to be the card ....MEMMORY ?
Hey Is there a way to test memory ? I run Memtest for 48h + and it happens on 3 different ram sets so I know its not Ram. But GTX Ram? How can I test it ? Problem is that all stress tests works 99% fine on titan X. OCCT dont work at all in DX 11 only DX 9. But then after 2-3 weeks of gaming I had game artefacts. Not a normal ones just a texture on a mesh was messed up big time in Payday 2. But then I reloaded map and it was 100% fine. Could it be that out of 12gb ram I have some of it damaged ? How can I test it ? Problem is I cant RMA it to my shop as their policy is = if I cant crash it using our testing software, then we cant replace it :- ( Regards Dariusz
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 04:01:00
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nunzmon
it looks like he's getting corruption on the desktop and after checking connections and new
drivers and all the hardware REPLACING its got to be the card ....MEMMORY ?
Hey
Is there a way to test memory ?
I run Memtest for 48h + and it happens on 3 different ram sets so I know its not Ram. But GTX Ram? How can I test it ?
Problem is that all stress tests works 99% fine on titan X. OCCT dont work at all in DX 11 only DX 9. But then after 2-3 weeks of gaming I had game artefacts. Not a normal ones just a texture on a mesh was messed up big time in Payday 2. But then I reloaded map and it was 100% fine. Could it be that out of 12gb ram I have some of it damaged ? How can I test it ?
Problem is I cant RMA it to my shop as their policy is = if I cant crash it using our testing software, then we cant replace it :- (
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You can run OCScanner, use the "Memory Burner" test, set it to run fullscreen, with the artifact scanner enabled.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
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Do you mean Furry E ( GPU memory burner :3072MB) ? It only goes max to 5650-5708 +/- and when I enable Artifact scanner its FROZEN, no movement on screen! :- ( I see FPS, I see 99% usage and all but it is 100% frozen on screen. I enabled in Settings > Stop stress test if max artifacts (in pixels) >1 so that he stops test if he gets errors. Actually any test I run with Artifact scanner I get frozen screen :- ( Regards Dariusz
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 04:18:50
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That's normal for the image to be frozen when "artifact scanning" is enabled. The program is rendering and refreshing a static image to look for any anomalous blips in the output.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 04:21:04
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Dariusz1989
Do you mean
Furry E ( GPU memory burner :3072MB) ? It only goes max to 5650-5708 +/- and when I enable Artifact scanner its FROZEN, no movement on screen! :- (
I see FPS, I see 99% usage and all but it is 100% frozen on screen. I enabled in Settings > Stop stress test if max artifacts (in pixels) >1 so that he stops test if he gets errors.
Actually any test I run with Artifact scanner I get frozen screen :- (
Regards
Dariusz
bring back to store and show them the screen shots you posted it could be a soldering problem on one of the memory modules or something like that
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
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Thanks for info !
How can I test full 12 gb? Right now I only get 5591 tested at a time :- (
Soldering issue sounds scarry ! The FurMark runs at 83-84C atm.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 06:24:16
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Unfortunately, OCscanner tops out for testing around 6GB, and is unable to go higher. If you don't see any artifacting, but you're seeing the artifacting like in your earlier screenshots, then the error in the VRAM may be beyond what OCscanner or Furmark is able to address. You can try running a VRAM-heavy benchmark like Fire Strike. If you're unable to exchange the card through your retailer, then contact our EU office, and they'll get you set up with an RMA.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
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it looks like he's getting corruption on the desktop and after checking connections and new
drivers and all the hardware REPLACING its got to be the card ....MEMMORY ?
Seems unlikely that he got two cards with the exact same issue, doesn't it? He said that they swapped his card even after testing showed no issues on the original and yet he still has problems. He also said in the other post that they tested his rig for a week and found no issue, yet he has a problem at home. And desktop corruption from the 'back half' of memory on a video card? Are you, by chance, running your power off of a UPS? Are you on a power strip? Did they test your rig using the same monitor you use at home?
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
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nunzmon
it looks like he's getting corruption on the desktop and after checking connections and new
drivers and all the hardware REPLACING its got to be the card ....MEMMORY ?
Seems unlikely that he got two cards with the exact same issue, doesn't it? He said that they swapped his card even after testing showed no issues on the original and yet he still has problems. He also said in the other post that they tested his rig for a week and found no issue, yet he has a problem at home. And desktop corruption from the 'back half' of memory on a video card?
Are you, by chance, running your power off of a UPS? Are you on a power strip? Did they test your rig using the same monitor you use at home?
Hey Agree to it all its very weird ! I don't run it off UPS. I run it off secured power cord. They did not have my monitors. I tried with 1-2-3 monitors and even a brand new one I got recently Cintiq 27 Touch. Is there no way to run 2x or 3x the Fur mark ? Will try more tests today and see how it goes. Regards Dariusz
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 08:34:15
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Can you clarify "secured power cord"? I know what a secure power supply is, but I don't think that is what you are referencing.
Also, what length of cable are you using to your monitor and connection type? I don't remember that from either post, so I apologize if I missed it. I understand that the issue seems to be from the tower, I am just eliminating a few things from problems I have seen.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 09:16:08
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Can you clarify "secured power cord"? I know what a secure power supply is, but I don't think that is what you are referencing.
Also, what length of cable are you using to your monitor and connection type? I don't remember that from either post, so I apologize if I missed it. I understand that the issue seems to be from the tower, I am just eliminating a few things from problems I have seen.
I mean Black power cord > to extension unit that is Belkin with surge protection then wall socket. Tried different cables from originals to 5m long. Right now I have 2x Digital, 1x digital normal, 1x digital 5m, and DVI 5m. Regards Dariusz
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 09:27:38
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Can you run on a different power strip or, preferably, run your PC cord directly to the wall outlet? Try a different outlet all together?
I ask because we have occasional problems at work through UPS and power strips causing power fluctuations that the power supply can't fully rectify and thereby causing issues. The power strip would also be one item that didn't go to the shop when it was tested. You could also have a power issue from that socket. I'm looking for any environmental differences that may have allowed them to not have any issues while you are having them.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 12:30:31
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The last time I had this issue, it was from the VRAM overheating or being faulty. I had the exact same symptoms on my quad-SLI EVGA GTX 295's years ago. Even the screenshots with the artifacting looks the same. No amount of replacing other components or trying new drivers ever solved my problem. In the end, I had to just eat the cost of the graphics cards, because the replacements that EVGA sent all did the same thing. (this was a huge problem with these cards if you google it) Ended up going with different video cards and never had a problem again.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 14:36:40
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It might actually be your computer case that is causing this issue, especially since you are on your second Titan card, and you have replaced almost everything else (and still getting this issue). Did you by any chance run into this problem when installing your graphics card? (screw-holes on the GPU not lining up properly with the case):   Often times when people run into this issue, they just push/force the GPU to the side a little, and put the screws on, and say "nailed it!" and think everything will be fine. However, doing this might cause a weak/bad connection between the gpu and the motherboards PCIe slot, which in turn can give the kind of artifacts you are seeing. I had this exact issue with a Corsair Obsidian 800D computer case back in 2010. And it took me over 6 months to figure out that it was actually the computer case causing the artifacts, and not the GPU. Not saying this is your issue, but there is little to no quality control on computer cases these days, so this happens more often than it should.
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/15 15:06:51
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Hey
Thanks every one for help and your suggestions !
CoercionShaman I've plugged in brand new power cable, out of plastic bag - still getting crashes. Tried lots of different sockets so I don't think its socket.
Wiretap It is something I was thinking off. That the entire batch of cards that the shop had was somehow damaged or something... But I don't want to believe that to be honest... fingers cross its not that!
SuperConker I did look at that when I put the card 1st in. It seems that it went in just fine to be honest. But I will re-look at the issues see what I can do. I am actually a little more worried that my DVI-DIgital cables dont go all the way in to the socket. But even using only DVI I was getting crashes on 1 screen so dont think thats it.
One thing I'm experiencing now are GPU crashes of software like Maya + PS. If I enable PS advanced GPU system like OpenCL + Advanced mode. I get crashes. So if I start Maya, load scene, Start PS, load picture, Crash. Its a random crash either maya OR PS crash. Never both. Sometimes I get Error Code 6 Nvidia Out of memory. OR Program run out of resources - memory etc etc. Always out of memory and not enough memory errors :- ((
I know - or I believe that it is NOT software issue because I know at least 3 people who have similar systems, Titan X etc etc and they have no problems :- (
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/16 04:48:38
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You can't discount software when 3 other people with same system without issue. Same hardware and you have had an issue despite swapping out hardware still leaves software drivers.
If you boot Windows in Safe mode and try doing tests or other stuff do you still have a problem?
You didn't indicate and I cannot tell how you took the screen shot. Are they the product of PrintScreen or some other screen capture application (smells like driver issue). But if these are from Camera/Phone, I have seen similar distortions occur due to a faulty cable.
I have also seen similar transient distortions appear on Chrome on a 2010 Macbook Pro and only on Chrome.
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You can't discount software when 3 other people with same system without issue. Same hardware and you have had an issue despite swapping out hardware still leaves software drivers.
Perhaps incorrectly I assumed that the computer shop tested with his software since they had the OP's tower. That is a question that should be asked. Did the shop test the system as you use it (to include software) or did they simply test the hardware, Darius?
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
2016/02/19 08:19:44
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You can't discount software when 3 other people with same system without issue. Same hardware and you have had an issue despite swapping out hardware still leaves software drivers.
If you boot Windows in Safe mode and try doing tests or other stuff do you still have a problem?
You didn't indicate and I cannot tell how you took the screen shot. Are they the product of PrintScreen or some other screen capture application (smells like driver issue). But if these are from Camera/Phone, I have seen similar distortions occur due to a faulty cable.
I have also seen similar transient distortions appear on Chrome on a 2010 Macbook Pro and only on Chrome.
I dont think that it is a software issue... as I used it for 8 years etc etc. Its very much hardware I think. It only started when I put in Titan X. Cant run Software in save mode :- ( I took screnchoot using "Snipping tool". I've replaced most of my cables from GPU>LCD>GPU>SATA etc etc... Some one asked how the shoops tested the hardware. I'm not sure if I got it in email or here but here it is : Shop A > Had entire workstation, run their standard tests, + run photoshop - what I crash it on. Problem is - I think - that the fault is not constant. Its intermittent so the shop engineer would need to use workstation in normal conditions for 10h to get the crashes happen and possibly have my very exact scenes and files which I cant supply due to NDA. As they are very heavy and complex. Not sure sometimes I crash it in basic things like chrome + 9 gag 100 pages down the line :- ( Shop B > Had Ram, CPU, Mobo. Same as before they failed to crash it. - They give me OCCT program to test it from home. I was unable to start ANY DX 11 stress test they all isntant crash. However shop said that they run it with no problems - but they did NOT have my Titan X as its from different shoop... In both cases when I got system back home I always managed to crash it within 10 minutes. Anyway what I did is use DDU and run latest drivers. They latests seems to be most stable for me... anyway what I did is move gpu from 1st PCIe Slot to 5th I think... Interesting things happen now is that. I have 3 screens 1 screen maya + chrome 2 screen maya + game (eve or any other) 3 screen Photoshop + eve I am getting a "flash"? It looks like screen is getting 100% cover with lines, weird colors and all. It ONLY happens for 1 mili second or so. Its very quick flash BUT it ONLY happens on screen where the mouse is -- OK scratch it. It happens at random screen... ! Weirdest thing ever. Any one have any ideas if its GPU or other related? Also they dont happen all the time. Only from time to time at random intervals :- ( I still haven't had time to buy spare gpu :- ( Regards Dariusz
post edited by Dariusz1989 - 2016/02/19 09:05:36
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Re: Titan that produces weird issues...
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Dariusz, software was used as catch all. Software would be particular version of application which is upgraded + direct X + video card drivers + OS+BIOS.
Ultimately without running that same physical card in some other PC you cannot determine hardware issue unless similar card is running in another computer with *exact* same software versions, drivers, OS and extra software. That last part is especially important because you could have Precision X installed or some Asus kit for example that fiddle with fan speeds in the background.
If you install a different Titan X card then the card drivers should be the only thing that changes and you can say the card is faulty.
Heck, even the PSU and incoming power can cause crashing under load if you don't have a decent UPS feeding it to ensure clean ~115V/230V. Most shops would have a decent UPS to ensure they don't fry/damage a customer's system.
Moving card to a different PCIe slot would also result in runtime driver changes (base address offsets in memory). The fact that the system becomes more unstable on PCIe 5 and is more stable on PCIe1 could indicate the MOBO is the issue but this can't rule out software as mentioned.
Unfortunately, welcome to troubleshooting hell.
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