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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/19 13:28:14
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Except an EVGA tech guy responded to this by saying the titan x manual is actually wrong, and the correct minimum is 24 gigs.
What I really want to know is: If a game does NOT utilize 12gb of Vram (non do actually atm,) do we lose any performance if we have less than 24gb of ram? Can we get an answer please!
I wouldn't think so. You can get a response from EVGA tech support @ phone numbers or contact NVIDIA directly @ 1-800-797-6530. Let us know what they have to say about your question.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/19 13:45:14
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Looks like it's time to upgrade :)
Yup, I'll probably end up getting 32GB instead.
But do you know exactly why the requirements call for 24GB?
The card can work with less than 24, but recommend to have at least 24. If they ever use over 12gb then the card will need 12gb for swap memory.
Chris, by that logic the Titan Black and Titan-Z should have listed 12-24 GB of system RAM then. Similarly, the GTX 980 should have listed out 8-16 GB.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/19 14:00:25
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If you do not use over the internal 12GB of VRam then you should not necessarily see a problem. However if you do use over 12GB of VRam, which will not be easy at this time, then your system will be looking for 12GB of internal memory for a swap file.
Please understand that we are just relaying the recommended minimum requirements that Nvidia has available for this product.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/19 14:47:34
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If you do not use over the internal 12GB of VRam then you should not necessarily see a problem. However if you do use over 12GB of VRam, which will not be easy at this time, then your system will be looking for 12GB of internal memory for a swap file.
Please understand that we are just relaying the recommended minimum requirements that Nvidia has available for this product.
Thank you very much. That's all I wanted to know.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/19 16:50:22
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Frankly, this misinformation is causing a lot of consternation among buyers and potential buyers. let's get the story straight. VSG's point is completely valid.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/19 19:02:29
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I'm planning on getting two Titan X's and overclocking them. I've got a 4770k @ 4.2ghz, and 32gb ram @2133MHz. Do you guys think EVGA SuperNOVA 850W PSU will be enough? I think it is but would like your input guys.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/19 20:22:03
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What could possibly use over 12gb vram besides some professional editing software? ......or a ubisoft game 
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/20 16:12:12
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Guys, I've got a Titan X on the way and I'm going to test it on an X58 board (i7 980x) with 16GB RAM. I suspect the recommendation is primarily for applications like a CAD system being used rather than a game right now. You have to remember that the Titan X is bordering on Quadro workstation capability. It appears to be an in between card. "Have your game and CAD it too" I do see games eventually loading more textures into VRAM and swapping them out but not now. The gaming people understand that Non-PC markets (xBox, PS etc) will not have the same capacities as the PC so they will be careful how they produce their games.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/25 16:48:48
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Nvidia chat I had...doesn't add up to what most pople are saying
quote from nvidia "We are not really sure how the people are managing to get it work on 16 GB PC because the card itself is a 12 GB card. With 16 GB card, they might be able to run the card but in future, they will face performance issues. The minimum requirement is atleast 24 GB"
i then asked what kind of issues
response was "They might face stuttering, lag , tearing or eventually, the card may stopped working."
Ive talked to a rep with a computer building company who evga works with and they also said they don't see how it would mess up. so who to believe, because ppl are reporting only 4gb usage on the titan x which leaves 8 missing.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/25 16:53:36
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Offical user guide now says 24GB (48GB recommended).
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/25 17:30:26
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I could be wrong, but I think we'll discover shortly that the 2 GB min 4 GB recommended is the correct spec. There is no reason the GPU would need 24GB min and 48GB recommended that would put this GPU out of the min spec for over ~90%+ users. That just makes zero sense.
hehehe workstation hybrid card thats why-.- if your not using it for working on things in 3d/hair sims/whatever you will be more than fine. As for what happens for those of us who do 3d with a gpu like this and not having the ram and reaching caps no idea since I have always had more ram than my gpu for the past 9-10 years plus... gamers it should have no affect. You all have to remember its essentially a workstation card with gaming clocks, since it does have its logical processing cores in tact. why nvidia has no clue what will be the affects with it and gaming? Because with workstation cards we didn't game on them because the FPS was normally so bad with their lower clocks...
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/26 20:56:03
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I have a Titan X on a PC with 6GB of RAM. Recently I tried pushing my vRAM usage by uncompressing every texture setting in RAGE. I got up to 7GB of vRAM usage. >:3
The loading time though.... ugh. I felt like I was back in 2005. :P
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/28 18:53:50
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Hi Guys !
Just to clarify, I will be helping a friend build a pc in about 2 weeks (that is if the acer predator 34" widescreen will be available by then) and he got 3 titan x's so to be sure of the requirements I called NVidia. The rep I spoke to said for 1 titan x 24GB of ram is the minimum, for 2, 3 or 4 the minimum is 48GB. He said for titan x to work properly and get the best performance the system ram has to be double that of the vram. Why? I didn't ask and why only 48GB for 3 or 4 titan x's I didn't ask, I just wanted confirmation on the requirements.
So he's getting 64GB of ripjaws 4 in the rampage v extreme.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/29 11:04:54
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Pretty sure that if you're using less than 12GB of VRAM (and you will use less for gaming purposes) then you don't need 24GB of System RAM.
I have 16GB of RAM so I should be fine. I think Shadow of Mordor at most uses 6.5-7GB of VRAM at 4K.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/03/29 18:04:51
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I think this will be a non-issue for most. I'm using an mITX board right now, so I'm pretty sure the max amount of RAM I can have is 16GB anyways. I suppose you could buy this..? lol http://www.newegg.com/Pro...px?Item=9SIA24G28M5549 EDIT: oops.. looks like that's for IBM workstations only.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/04/30 19:35:36
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So I think I'm in that sweet spot of misery. I have 24gb of system ram, I also have a titan x installed.....the system allocates 22gb of ram for the hardware(just for it to sit idle)....that leaves me with 2gb of ram for the rest of my system to fight to the death over at the moment. Luckily I have nearly 6gbs of ram coming from virtual ram when in a game at the moment...as far as I can tell once you cross that 24gb threshold it just assumes you have enough extra ram and takes it all.
Needless to say Ive ordered a new systems worth of parts, I was long overdue anyhow, since my current mobo has 24gb max so upgrading ram was out of the question. I will be jumping up to 64gb of ram, amongst other upgrades, since I do video editing/3d modeling I need north of 16gb of usable ram anyhow. As a caveat, I talked with my buddy who only has 16gb of system ram and his titan x was only using 10gb leaving him with 6gb for the system.
I hope that helps clear up any questions...it absolutely will allocate whatever you have in your system...even if its just idly sitting there ...and apparently the closer to 24gb you get the more it allocates.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/04/30 21:40:25
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IMO it's pretty disgusting, and borders on predatory marketing. You gotta wonder how many Titan X buyers know of Nvidia's 48GB minimum system ram spec before they spend their $1100+, and how many wind up paying for tons of extra memory that can never be used. In the half-dozen or so Titan X ads I've seen so far, I haven't seen a mention of it by any retailer. Meanwhile everyone knows 16GB gaming systems vastly outnumber 48GB or 64GB (or even 32GB) systems for overclocking and other purposes. Lots of people being taken and shame on Nvidia imo. The 980 Ti should have been released concurrently with the Titan X, unless someone can explain why doing so wasn't possible for the company.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/04/30 22:13:01
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Nvidia corrected this:
MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
PCI Express-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x16 graphics slot
One 6-pin and one 8-pin PCI Express supplementary power connector
Minimum 600 W or greater power supply
300 MB of available hard drive space
8 GB system memory (16 GB or higher recommended)
Microsoft Windows 8 and 8.1, Windows 7 or Windows Vista
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/04/30 22:15:32
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You'll need to define "corrected", since a 12GB frame buffer is impossible on an 8GB system.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/04/30 22:25:12
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Nvidia corrected this:
MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
PCI Express-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x16 graphics slot
One 6-pin and one 8-pin PCI Express supplementary power connector
Minimum 600 W or greater power supply
300 MB of available hard drive space
8 GB system memory (16 GB or higher recommended)
Microsoft Windows 8 and 8.1, Windows 7 or Windows Vista
These requirements can be seen here. JeffDC
You'll need to define "corrected", since a 12GB frame buffer is impossible on an 8GB system.
El-Dubya got to 8GB of VRAM with only 8GB of system ram installed.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/05/01 03:52:32
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They may have corrected the recommendations on the box/manual..but it doesn't change the fact that the card itself will use more ram if it is present...drastically reducing the available ram your system has to use for everything else. Also as soon as you go over the vram is where you will see problems with not having enough ram for the other facets of not having enough to cache the 12gb of vram. Will it run on less...yep......will your system be at full capacity of available ram for anything else ...nope.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/05/01 04:04:03
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I believe all NVIDIA websites and on-line manuals have been fixed to reflect the 8GB minimum ram requirements (16GB is recommended). I don't believe there is any current game that will pull more than 6GB of VRAM so I believe that is why NVIDIA changed the requirements. However if you want to render something astronomically large then the more system ram you have the better it will be.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/05/21 08:49:13
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From what I've read it's an OS technicality right? The 12GB gpu needs 24GB system ram to support itself. If anything less than that is installed, the OS limtis the Vram. Resulting in the gpu only showing 4GB or less Vram available. So using anything less than 24GB nets you 8GB dead ram weight.
Really sucks too, I was looking forward to getting the Titan X on my X99 board. But my pc3000 ripjaws are sold only in sets (4x4GB). So it would cost me an extra $190 to support the titan x. Not to mention $50 more in Monarch adapters for my loop :P
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/05/21 09:45:44
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From what I've read it's an OS technicality right? The 12GB gpu needs 24GB system ram to support itself. If anything less than that is installed, the OS limtis the Vram. Resulting in the gpu only showing 4GB or less Vram available. So using anything less than 24GB nets you 8GB dead ram weight.
Really sucks too, I was looking forward to getting the Titan X on my X99 board. But my pc3000 ripjaws are sold only in sets (4x4GB). So it would cost me an extra $190 to support the titan x. Not to mention $50 more in Monarch adapters for my loop :P
I run 32GB just... because. When I dropped it to 16GB, it still shows the full dedicated amount of VRAM available as 12GB. It just scaled back the shared memory accordingly. The problem would occur if it had to dump the cache from the VRAM and the memory wasn't available. Many of the people that are only showing 4GB previously had a 4GB card and that is still a ghost in the machine. A clean install (old card in, remove drivers, power down, swap cards, power on, reinstall drivers, etc) or a fresh OS install will often remedy that. I think the only time it won't recognize it as more is with XP and specific hardware configurations otherwise.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/05/22 04:24:42
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I really have to ask, since the requirements for a Titan X is 24gb (minimum), what's that say about gtx 970's and 980's? Do they have a similar requirements?
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/05/22 05:21:00
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To get over 32GB of memory these days on a non-server board you'll need an LGA2011-v3 motherboard with DDR4 memory. You can actually get 64GB of memory there. Still, 32GB seems reasonable and isn't priced unreasonably for DDR3 kits. I saw the requirements and still decided to just stick with 32GB DDR3 and LGA 1150 on my new motherboard. I need 32GB for VMWare virtual desktops and servers used with customer work anyway though. Still, even with Skyrim fully packed with custom textures you'll have a hard time reaching that requirement for gaming in the near future as others have said. I'm just glad the TitanX didn't skimp on memory like the GTX690 did. That dated a great card sooner than it should have. I actually did run out of memory with custom Skyrim textures and had to dial back on that. I was really disappointed by the lack of a higher capacity dual-GPU card and the Titan-Z with it's 3k price didn't do anything for me at the time. I use a PCIe-X8 raid controller and still prefer smaller cases. :-)
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/05/24 11:47:56
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I really have to ask, since the requirements for a Titan X is 24gb (minimum), what's that say about gtx 970's and 980's? Do they have a similar requirements?
No. Cards require system memory for a frame buffer, equal to the size of the installed memory of the cards. E.g. 4GB cards require a 4GB frame buffer in system memory, which is no problem even on a 16GB system. The Titan X requires a 12GB buffer and therefore requires at least 24GB for full use of its memory. Anyone who buys one for a 16GB system is paying for lots of memory they'll never, ever be able to use. If you want to see corporate doublespeak at its finest, try asking Nvidia why they released a 12GB "gaming" card, before releasing a much more usable, desireable and appropriate 6 or 8GB card ("980 Ti", due any week now). The real answer imo is that they're predating on the bleeding edge.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/05/24 12:54:50
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Hows the requirements for 2Way-SLi? Is it still 24gb or should one ideally have at-least 48gb for SLi? I "only" have 32gb of ram currently with 2x Titan X.
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/08/20 22:01:50
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Ok so let me get this straight if you have 16 gigs of system ram on your motherboard you need to get 8 gigs for to meet the minimum requirement to run 1 GTX Titan X? I bought this card back in May 2015, I have had all kinds of stuttering issues with online and offline games (MechWarrior Online, World of Warcraft, Witcher 3) is what I have mostly been playing. And I get between 1-20 frames sometimes 30 ish which is still REALLY REALLY choppy causing to play like crap. I have been trying to figure out (Deleted for Foul Language) is going how this 1 thousand dollar video card is running like crap. There is no factual fix for this that has been posted, so I just order another 17 gigs of ram @1866mhz (does the ram speed even matter???) I will have a total of 32 gigs of ram hopefully by Saturday. I am going to uber pissed if this doesn't get my frames up and games steady. I got friends 780's and 970's running these games almost maxed out settings and they are getting smooth sailing in online and offline games. Computer specs posted below. If anyone has figured this out and has facts to support a fix please for the love of god post something! I also will post the results following the install of the RAM upgrade after this Saturday. I7-4770k (not over clocked) EVGA Z87FTW Corsair Dominator platinum 16 gigs @1866 mhz Titax X Corsair AX1200 PSU
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Re: System Requirements for Titan X?
2015/08/21 04:32:43
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I doubt that will help but I hope I'm wrong and maybe really need more than 16GB for TITAN X. Please share here with us what happen. And I would like to know. I thought to stay on 16GB DDR4 at least 2 years until some 3000MHz kit show up with extremely low latency. Because I will not change platform definitely long time, concentration on graphic cards and SSD for OS.
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