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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/14 08:26:06
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Only the top card gets that hot and its a spike temp or max temp not a consistant temp. Bottom card is always 5c lower. So top card AVERAGE is 86 and bottom is 81. This is during stress tests and NOT GAMEPLAY also. I have Haf x case with 7 fans positive pressure (custom fan mods)But everyone missed my statement in my last post . MY sli 780ti classys are overclocked so high that I dont think is worth it to STEP UP to two 980(vanilla) acx 2.0 cards. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? Btw I have 24 days to step up....
My answer to you is same as my answer was to the OP. For $60 my new cards would be in the mail to me already, as another user commented. That is just my opinion, again, I am prob in minority. You are right, your OC'd Ti's are beasts and may well be much faster than 980's. If you are fine with your temps and really great OC then keep your Ti's. The issue is simply do you want 4gb cards or will you be set with 3gb cards for the next year or 2. Depends on your games. I almost pulled the trigger on an OEM Nvidia Titan Black that was out in the wild for $680 but I missed it. If I have the chance to swap my Ti's for Titan Blacks at a reasonable price I will do it just to have 6gb memory and not have to upgrade for another year or 2.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/14 10:39:45
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Only the top card gets that hot and its a spike temp or max temp not a consistant temp. Bottom card is always 5c lower. So top card AVERAGE is 86 and bottom is 81. This is during stress tests and NOT GAMEPLAY also. I have Haf x case with 7 fans positive pressure (custom fan mods)But everyone missed my statement in my last post . MY sli 780ti classys are overclocked so high that I dont think is worth it to STEP UP to two 980(vanilla) acx 2.0 cards. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? Btw I have 24 days to step up....
It shouldn't be reaching anything past 88-89C at ALL! You are on the verge of bricking your card, you should be using a safe overclock...
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/14 11:03:46
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Only the top card gets that hot and its a spike temp or max temp not a consistant temp. Bottom card is always 5c lower. So top card AVERAGE is 86 and bottom is 81. This is during stress tests and NOT GAMEPLAY also. I have Haf x case with 7 fans positive pressure (custom fan mods)But everyone missed my statement in my last post . MY sli 780ti classys are overclocked so high that I dont think is worth it to STEP UP to two 980(vanilla) acx 2.0 cards. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? Btw I have 24 days to step up....
My answer to you is same as my answer was to the OP. For $60 my new cards would be in the mail to me already, as another user commented. That is just my opinion, again, I am prob in minority. You are right, your OC'd Ti's are beasts and may well be much faster than 980's. If you are fine with your temps and really great OC then keep your Ti's. The issue is simply do you want 4gb cards or will you be set with 3gb cards for the next year or 2. Depends on your games. I almost pulled the trigger on an OEM Nvidia Titan Black that was out in the wild for $680 but I missed it. If I have the chance to swap my Ti's for Titan Blacks at a reasonable price I will do it just to have 6gb memory and not have to upgrade for another year or 2.
Eh i think i will be good with 3GB. Only 2-3 games use 3GB or more vram and that is because middle earth shadow of mordor uses downsampling with the ultra textures. Some games are just very bad console ports but the new PC games that were developed first on PC don't use near 3GB Vram and have the same graphics. Check out this picture, that is a vanilla 780 Ti with 3GB outperforms the 4GB r9 290x and has a higher min FPS than the 980 with 4GB. Imagine if it was overclocked to 1200-1300mhz? Unity also uses all the vram you throw at it, i head read this somewhere else for another game as well but i cannot remember. 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/14 21:53:25
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I have two 780ti classys in sli oc'd at 1320mhz STABLE using LN2 bios at 1250mv. She runs hot at 92 degrees at full load for one hour Running unigene heaven. Temps are usually aroound 88. I have 22 days left in step up program. At such a high over lock I am worried a 980 acx 2.0 wont beat my current set up. I game at 1440p.
I'm wondering a few things about corndog's setup, - What is his rig? Is he running 2 780 Ti Classies at 1320MHz on a mATX rig where the coolers cannot breathe?
- Has he flashed his vBIOSes to a 3rd party (ie: Skyn3t) to force 1320MHz @ 92? or has he moved the power target to 115% (or 200%, if bios-unlocked), which would move up the throttle temp to 95 Deg C
I have a 780 Ti Classified (see my modsrig) and even though it's stock (boring clocks, but reliable), it doesn't get above 64 to 65 Deg C while running games - regardless of 1080p or 4K. Running Unigine Heaven @ Extreme Preset only pushed it to 66 Deg C after 8 hours. My room temp: 20 to 22 Deg C. Granted, I have dual 140mm Noctua NF-A14 iPPC 2000rpms as intakes, an NF-F12 iPPC 2000rpm as rear exhaust, and 2 NF-F12 iPPC 2000rpms pulling air out through the H220x that cools my 4790K, but still even most OCers on this board would know that there is a point where air or water - the two main cooling methods by 99% of users - reaches its heat-removing limits (water / liquid being higher than air). Because this rig is a beta-testing rig for Windows 10 and Project CARS, as well as one of the backup repositories for my graduate school work (i save everything in triplicate, so I'm not terribly worried about a failure), I favor this stability over any gains I may get in OCing (also, at 1080p, i'm getting 120 to 140fps in all of the games I play, so OCing isn't really much of an issue at this stage). As for having your GPU at 1250mv (1.25v), are you getting that reading through EVGA precision, GPU-Z, or a hardware probe that's hooked up through the probeIT ports on the side of the GPU? Software is NOTORIOUS for giving inaccurate readings for GPU measurements, and could be off by quite a margin. It can also put in a TON of extra heat production as well. Case in point: I slid the Overvolting on EVGA Precision X from its factory setting to 1.212v - no overclocking - and my temperatures immediately jumped 10 Degrees Celsius just due to the extra few millivolts I was making the GPU use. 1.25v on air, through Precision X measures anywhere from about 1.28v to 1.32v from a digital multi-meter, which is VERY high for air-cooling (me personally, being quite conservative in OCing due to my being native to laptops, wouldn't test that out unless I had a thick 240mm rad for each Classy I was pushing to that level). But back to your work, you're not only shortening the life of your GPU(s), both of which will be very good GPUs for at least the next 3 years of gaming @ 1080p, but the amount of power you're pulling to the GPUs could overload the PSU as well. If you're at 200% power usage, on an unlocked 780 Ti Classy, at 1.25v per GPU, you're probably pulling close to 1100 to 1200w from the PSU; even if both cards are locked and you're only at 115% power target at 1.25v, you're still pulling in the neighborhood of 800w (400w per GPU). If this is the case, I'm inclined to say you take 1 8-pin from each daisy-chained PCIE power cord (there's usually 2 8-pins for GPUs daisy-chained to 1 8-pin for fully modular PSUs; the exception being the EVGA PSUs), for each 8-pin that comes out of the PSU. This way you don't run into power-shortage issues, or "overloading a connector" issue that has plagued high-power GPUs such as the R9 295X2 (which uses 500w through dual 8-pins by requiring the end-user to take 1 8-pin from each daisy-chained 8+8, so as not to overload a connector). We'd need more information on your rig: the mobo, the PSU, all of the other factors that make your rig, but as far as I can add up, you're stressing out your components to a level that - at least to me - is discomforting, and frankly excessive. Jason
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/15 03:47:12
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/15 05:25:08
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corndog,
I had to read your post about 5 times in order to grasp what you have. Your voltage is about 0.05v too high. Knock it down to 1.2v and keep the classies at about 1270MHz. (1268 to be precise). Use the list function with bullet points so that it is easier for the community to see what you have. As it is, it's very difficult to read.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/15 06:07:30
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Sorry. I replied to you on my cell phone at work. I am still thinking of stepping up to a 980's. What do you think. I would only pay shipping charges I have 20 days left. Aslo, what do you think of my rig?
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/16 15:45:12
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I have both cards and i feel my 780ti is faster especially in BF4 !
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/16 18:07:22
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Why? Are you getting more fps?
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/16 19:00:01
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Same in game settings on both cards , about the same frames . It just feels like the 780ti gets to the punch quicker if you will .
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/17 14:28:54
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I'm basically in the same boat... I've got short of a month to decide... I got 2 780 Ti Classifieds at $680 each... The idea of getting a card of lesser value bothers me (you wouldn't trade up a Porsche for Hyundai)., but then every stupid game now is running like trash because devs are getting lazy about optimizing, and 4gb has quickly become the standard for ultra settings (and if I can't play completely with the settings maxed out [including AA], I might as well play on my xbox one or ps4).
A lot of people are satisfied with their 780 Ti cards that are overclocked, but I can't overclock mine. At stock speeds they run 80*C, and that's only because I have custom fan settings to run them at 100%. Otherwise they were easily approaching 90*C. Side of the computer is mesh, so they vent right into open air instead of back into the case. Still 80*C on air, and that's not stress testing, that's playing Assassin's Creed Unity. So without waterblocks, there's no hope to even OC these 2 cards. Also all attempts I previously made over 100mhz on the core caused immediate BSODs (and benchmark programs show fps rates dropping if I attempt to overclock even slightly). However, the 980s, have 4gb of memory, use less power, SHOULD run cooler, and may even overclock.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/17 14:55:14
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I am considering it very seriously... I was really hoping the 980ti would come out to step up to...
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 10:32:39
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Eh i'm probably not going to jump. I don't see any pros.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 11:46:35
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I think I could use the extra gig of mem. Plus 980@1400mhz beats 780ti@1280mhz.
assuming I could oc the 980. Besides I have sli 780ti's and they get hot. 980's ahould be abit cooler...I only paid $600 a peice for 780tis ao not much loss. I have 17 days left to decide.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 15:38:11
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I think I could use the extra gig of mem. Plus 980@1400mhz beats 780ti@1280mhz.
assuming I could oc the 980. Besides I have sli 780ti's and they get hot. 980's ahould be abit cooler...I only paid $600 a peice for 780tis ao not much loss. I have 17 days left to decide.
SAYS WHO? 980 @ 1400mhz does not beat 780 ti @ 1280mhz... Show some proof. Maybe they get hot because you cant cool them properly, and the 980 will also get hot if that is the case. My 780 Ti Classy can get to 1268Mhz and is cool as a cucumber. Idles anywhere from 26-30C depending on ambient temp 75-80F. Under load while playing AC Black Flag or ME:Shadow of Mordor never goes above 70C. It stays around 68C and that is with no overvolting, stock LN2 bios. If i were to put this puppy underwater, which i will sooner or later, imagine what kind of mad clocks i could get. :P Anyways you cant step up to a classified version, only a ACX 2.0 SC version.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 16:28:56
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SORRY!!! 980 @ 1400mhz wins by a small margin to 780ti @ 1182mhz. so I guess you were right in that the 780ti @ 1280mz beats the 980 @ 1400mhz. but please help me in my problem that I have 17 days left to step up to vanilla 2x 980 acx 2.0(non classy). I have 2x 780ti(classys) oc'd at 1280mhz in sli max temp 83c in unigene heaven ultra 1440p(ROG SWIFT) for one hour and room temp is 72 farenheit 1.178 in gpu-Z . memory untouched...I am wondering what 980 @ 1500mhz is like and also has 1gig more vram. please help me decide. I am going to do some in game tests with metro redux tonight cause I just got my monitor yesterday. I will also text it with crisis 2. I cant make up my mind . SHOULD I STEP UP OR NOT.... my rig is good please check my signature.. I am torn!!!
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 16:31:14
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 16:33:48
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Keep your classys, those are for meant for 1440p gaming. Don't let these lazy game developers make you believe that you now need 4-6GB for 1080p gaming. Check your temps maybe, 83c is borderline. I would not trust the voltages in software, they are not correct. If you want proper voltages get a DMM.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 16:36:28
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gpu z I what I monitor everything with. precesion x is a joke for recording stats...
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 16:37:59
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GEEZ, 800$ monitor? You must be rich! Are you going to water cool those puppies?
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 16:40:29
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yes. maximus vii formula x97 mobo can be liquid cooled also. I save for a long long long long time... this monitor is sweet... cant wait to play metro redux tonight until my eyes pop out... what do you think of my build???
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/21 16:49:26
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I changed side fan to exhaust and lowered temp from my previous post by almost 5c...
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/22 01:01:38
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Problem is, if you end up with a 980 that just won't OC. Which is another reason I'm hesitating. My 780 Ti Classifieds can't OC though because they're already running hot at default speed (with a room temp of 65*F). If I got a pair of 980s that will OC, it would be a win, because I just need to beat an out of the box card. If they don't, it would be a minor fail! And I love the 1080 res argument. I play at 1080, and while the 780 Ti Classifieds handle everything a couple of months ago and back giving me a stable 60fps, Watch Dogs, Shadow of Mordor, and Assassin's Creed Unity all fail to provide solid 60fps with max settings. Yeah, there's some awful optimizing going on (and Ubisoft is leading that party), but that seems to be the trend, and devs aren't going to change their ways. We'd sooner see an end to exclusives and pre order bonuses, and $60 season passes for $60 games before they start to optimize and QC their games... Regardless of the choice between keeping the Classifieds or going with the step up, I lose to this madness, but the one that will let me hold out the longest is the choice I want to make. Especially since $1300 just went into it.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/22 10:16:36
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I have both cards and i feel my 780ti is faster especially in BF4 !
That's what I try to explain to people. I and probably many people here in past felt same with some cards. That happen to me with ATI 5870 (1600 Unified) and HD6970(1536 Unified). First give 4200 in 3DMark 11 second about 5200 score and they talk about optimization in new games, higher fps, no matter on less shaders. Even 6970 was little cheaper when show up after ATI5870. Different in games as downgrade like 5870 is powerfull. Futuremark could be lot of flexible for scaling with newest architectures but not and games before 2-3 years. Big success is so much performance with so low power consumption and we can talk about very similar card but so high overclocked GTX780Ti is definitely better option even if someone offer you to choose from free. Maxwell GTX980 give excellent performance definitely with 2048 CUDA but not enough to amazed people with Kepler 2880 CUDA AND 384bit memory. Now people talk about about GM200 different things, 4000 CUDA, 3072 CUDA, 2816 CUDA... Probably will be 2 models at least. If performance scaling per CORE is same AMD will need 60-70% improvements over R9-290X to catch that. But I think R9-390X will fight with crippled version of GM200 and concentrate on HBM marketing. Except I think that GTX980 will OC better than GTX780Ti. And probably if user don't use Classified voltage tool and unofficial BIOS GTX980 SC will maybe even OC beat and GTX780Ti Classified, but not out of box in gaming.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/22 10:54:12
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Problem is, if you end up with a 980 that just won't OC. Which is another reason I'm hesitating. My 780 Ti Classifieds can't OC though because they're already running hot at default speed (with a room temp of 65*F). If I got a pair of 980s that will OC, it would be a win, because I just need to beat an out of the box card. If they don't, it would be a minor fail!
And I love the 1080 res argument. I play at 1080, and while the 780 Ti Classifieds handle everything a couple of months ago and back giving me a stable 60fps, Watch Dogs, Shadow of Mordor, and Assassin's Creed Unity all fail to provide solid 60fps with max settings. Yeah, there's some awful optimizing going on (and Ubisoft is leading that party), but that seems to be the trend, and devs aren't going to change their ways. We'd sooner see an end to exclusives and pre order bonuses, and $60 season passes for $60 games before they start to optimize and QC their games... Regardless of the choice between keeping the Classifieds or going with the step up, I lose to this madness, but the one that will let me hold out the longest is the choice I want to make. Especially since $1300 just went into it.
How hot are they running? I think i might have gotten a good chip, its pretty cold at 1268mhz at stock voltage. Never goes above 65-69C in games and idles at around 30C and that is at about 78-80F. Now that my ambient temps are reaching the low 70s it idles near 25C. :P I am thinking of sticking it underwater. My step up days are done i cant step up anymore, i will be keeping this card and sticking it under water later on. I am upgrading to a Glacer 240L, which is expandable. Wish me luck!
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/22 11:54:23
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All I know is going from a 780ti to any 980 is NO upgrade ! You will not notice a difference ! I have both and prefer my 780ti !
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/22 13:16:28
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Zapix
Problem is, if you end up with a 980 that just won't OC. Which is another reason I'm hesitating. My 780 Ti Classifieds can't OC though because they're already running hot at default speed (with a room temp of 65*F). If I got a pair of 980s that will OC, it would be a win, because I just need to beat an out of the box card. If they don't, it would be a minor fail!
And I love the 1080 res argument. I play at 1080, and while the 780 Ti Classifieds handle everything a couple of months ago and back giving me a stable 60fps, Watch Dogs, Shadow of Mordor, and Assassin's Creed Unity all fail to provide solid 60fps with max settings. Yeah, there's some awful optimizing going on (and Ubisoft is leading that party), but that seems to be the trend, and devs aren't going to change their ways. We'd sooner see an end to exclusives and pre order bonuses, and $60 season passes for $60 games before they start to optimize and QC their games... Regardless of the choice between keeping the Classifieds or going with the step up, I lose to this madness, but the one that will let me hold out the longest is the choice I want to make. Especially since $1300 just went into it.
How hot are they running? I think i might have gotten a good chip, its pretty cold at 1268mhz at stock voltage. Never goes above 65-69C in games and idles at around 30C and that is at about 78-80F. Now that my ambient temps are reaching the low 70s it idles near 25C. :P I am thinking of sticking it underwater. My step up days are done i cant step up anymore, i will be keeping this card and sticking it under water later on. I am upgrading to a Glacer 240L, which is expandable. Wish me luck!
I wish you luck and I will build something similar only with Swiftech hardware, it's not much expensive than CM and somehow is more proven for watercooling. But I hear after New Year in Europe will sell Swiftech H220X. I would love to CPU and GPU fit under H220X but MCR140-X is second option because that's complete water-cooling for graphic card except block and tubes. Custom Apogee XL, similar as block from Hadron Kit  I still play on 1080 too and if game is smooth and good gameplay with filters no problem. 2560x1440p will be perfect but for that is minimum GTX970 SSC SLI or even GTX980 SLI.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/22 16:05:14
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How hot are they running? Out of the box under any stress testing, they run 82C after about 10 minutes. The built in fan settings seemed too weak so I customized those in Afterburner to run 100% once they hit 75C (default was to run then at 100% at like 90C or something...) . While playing recent games like AC Unity, they run a pretty solid 78C on the primary, fans @ 100%. Vents into open air. No overclocking. That's 1920x1080, all settings on ultra, MSAA x2 (because anything above that and ACU just won't work.). On the idle end, at this very moment we're talking 32C primary / 28C secondary. 5960X CPU @ 4.4ghz running a lovely 29C!
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/22 16:24:40
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I wish you luck and I will build something similar only with Swiftech hardware, it's not much expensive than CM and somehow is more proven for watercooling. But I hear after New Year in Europe will sell Swiftech H220X. I would love to CPU and GPU fit under
H220X but MCR140-X is second option because that's complete water-cooling for graphic card except block and tubes.
Custom Apogee XL, similar as block from Hadron Kit
I still play on 1080 too and if game is smooth and good gameplay with filters no problem.
2560x1440p will be perfect but for that is minimum GTX970 SSC SLI or even GTX980 SLI.
Dunno if they ever fixed it yet, but stay far far far far FAR away from the clear version of the Apogee XL. I feel like I was some kind of guinea pig tester for that thing. I got one right as they came out. It cracked and started leaking a few hours after I installed it. Nearly killed my primary video card. They refused to replace it at first. I had to pay return shipping to send it back. The second one they sent me cracked in the same places just hours after installed (and by amazing chance, I caught it right as it started). Paying return postage again, I asked for the standard Apogee XL, and it's been good. Didn't give me the better temps it claims (it replaced an Apogee XTL, the cheap version of their older Apogee XT), but it looks good. The clear version as far as I can tell has been listed as "OUT OF STOCK" since my ordeal, so it's probably not even possible for anyone to get one anyway. Was going to swap out my old (and now custom) Swiftech loop for something else and get Hydro Copper blocks for my Classifieds, but EVGA doesn't sell them anymore (a few 780 version blocks on ebay), Swiftech doesn't make anything, and I really don't like the look of the EK blocks. Not even sure watercooling would help though. I got strange results went I tried OCing my Classifieds to match Kingpin speeds (which is like 50mhz more lol).
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti?
2014/11/23 09:22:16
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Vlada011
I wish you luck and I will build something similar only with Swiftech hardware, it's not much expensive than CM and somehow is more proven for watercooling. But I hear after New Year in Europe will sell Swiftech H220X. I would love to CPU and GPU fit under
H220X but MCR140-X is second option because that's complete water-cooling for graphic card except block and tubes.
Custom Apogee XL, similar as block from Hadron Kit
I still play on 1080 too and if game is smooth and good gameplay with filters no problem.
2560x1440p will be perfect but for that is minimum GTX970 SSC SLI or even GTX980 SLI.
Dunno if they ever fixed it yet, but stay far far far far FAR away from the clear version of the Apogee XL. I feel like I was some kind of guinea pig tester for that thing. I got one right as they came out. It cracked and started leaking a few hours after I installed it. Nearly killed my primary video card. They refused to replace it at first. I had to pay return shipping to send it back. The second one they sent me cracked in the same places just hours after installed (and by amazing chance, I caught it right as it started). Paying return postage again, I asked for the standard Apogee XL, and it's been good. Didn't give me the better temps it claims (it replaced an Apogee XTL, the cheap version of their older Apogee XT), but it looks good. The clear version as far as I can tell has been listed as "OUT OF STOCK" since my ordeal, so it's probably not even possible for anyone to get one anyway. Was going to swap out my old (and now custom) Swiftech loop for something else and get Hydro Copper blocks for my Classifieds, but EVGA doesn't sell them anymore (a few 780 version blocks on ebay), Swiftech doesn't make anything, and I really don't like the look of the EK blocks. Not even sure watercooling would help though. I got strange results went I tried OCing my Classifieds to match Kingpin speeds (which is like 50mhz more lol).
Whats your Asics score? EK blocks look nice! Check this one out. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21661/ex-blc-1563/EK_EVGA_780_Classified_and_780_Ti_Classified_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_EK-FC780_GTX_Classy_-_Nickel.html?tl=g57c613s1928#blank
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