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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/03 15:42:18 (permalink)
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For a 4,000lb tugboat, while the torque band is broad; those are garbage digits.  What modern 454 makes only 500ft/lbs?


Just pulled numbers from a basic crate motor off of Chevy's website. Numbers will increase dramatically with more mods and HP obviously. (Honestly, I was surprised the TQ was that low.) Just using that as a baseline comparison of a BB vs SB.

An LSx can and does make more more torque, but that's an apples to oranges comparison.

My car currently makes 514whp, 429wtq from a 4.6 and weighs in at 3700 with me in it. It most definitely does not feel like a tugboat.
Dont push your 4.6 past 500 unless you get a new block... Believe me I speak from experience... carry on now!

Only if it is a 4-valve lol ;)

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/03 16:31:38 (permalink)
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For a 4,000lb tugboat, while the torque band is broad; those are garbage digits.  What modern 454 makes only 500ft/lbs?


Just pulled numbers from a basic crate motor off of Chevy's website. Numbers will increase dramatically with more mods and HP obviously. (Honestly, I was surprised the TQ was that low.) Just using that as a baseline comparison of a BB vs SB.

An LSx can and does make more more torque, but that's an apples to oranges comparison.

My car currently makes 514whp, 429wtq from a 4.6 and weighs in at 3700 with me in it. It most definitely does not feel like a tugboat.
Dont push your 4.6 past 500 unless you get a new block... Believe me I speak from experience... carry on now!

Only if it is a 4-valve lol ;)
I like my 3 valve I'm building a new block right now... The block is getting machines as of now and once I finish building I'll be good for up to 800 at the wheels... You running an off-road x or h? Don't tell me your catted, I have a guy that passes me and if anything I'll just put my stock back on... As for the 5.2l and the amount of torque it has that's pretty good... You can also count on well known shops offering tunes to beef that up as well as mods coming out...
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/03 17:07:35 (permalink)
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For a 4,000lb tugboat, while the torque band is broad; those are garbage digits.  What modern 454 makes only 500ft/lbs?


Just pulled numbers from a basic crate motor off of Chevy's website. Numbers will increase dramatically with more mods and HP obviously. (Honestly, I was surprised the TQ was that low.) Just using that as a baseline comparison of a BB vs SB.

An LSx can and does make more more torque, but that's an apples to oranges comparison.

My car currently makes 514whp, 429wtq from a 4.6 and weighs in at 3700 with me in it. It most definitely does not feel like a tugboat.
Dont push your 4.6 past 500 unless you get a new block... Believe me I speak from experience... carry on now!

Only if it is a 4-valve lol ;)
I like my 3 valve I'm building a new block right now... The block is getting machines as of now and once I finish building I'll be good for up to 800 at the wheels... You running an off-road x or h? Don't tell me your catted, I have a guy that passes me and if anything I'll just put my stock back on... As for the 5.2l and the amount of torque it has that's pretty good... You can also count on well known shops offering tunes to beef that up as well as mods coming out...

lol well if you are asking me, I don't run a Ford engine.  I run a heads/cam LS1 that is completely straightpiped with literally zero emissions equipment on it :D
 
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/03 20:04:07 (permalink)
BF3PRODont push your 4.6 past 500 unless you get a new block... Believe me I speak from experience... carry on now!


BF3PROI like my 3 valve I'm building a new block right now... The block is getting machines as of now and once I finish building I'll be good for up to 800 at the wheels... You running an off-road x or h? Don't tell me your catted, I have a guy that passes me and if anything I'll just put my stock back on... As for the 5.2l and the amount of torque it has that's pretty good... You can also count on well known shops offering tunes to beef that up as well as mods coming out...



Okay, I won't tell you. 
 
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/03 20:25:12 (permalink)
My first X-pipe was a BBK with ceramic cats and OMFG was it stupidly loud,  but the cats only made it a year before they started plugging up.  New X-pipe is a Magnaflow with metallic cats.  Much more subdued, but still loud enough to set off car alarms. 
 
I like the burble on deceleration and the sound at cruising.  But the rasp and crackle during acceleration is what I don't like.  

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/03 20:31:10 (permalink)
I heard, then read a rumor today............................................................................................
 
 
2017 SHELBY GT500 IS COMING, COULD CRACK 740+ HP W/ DIRECT-INJECTION TWIN-TURBO ECOBOOST 5.0 
 
 


 
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 14:56:01 (permalink)
I personally like the raspy sound of Xpipes... When I had my 94 Gt that 5.0 roared with the Off-road Xpipe from BBK (learned never to get BBK HEADERS or Anything from them fast though)... Now I run Kooks or Pypes Headers (looks HQ is located 5 minutes from me) and there off-road H/X pipe... I am personally not a fan of Hpipes as I like loud... Anyone heading down to mustang week?

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 15:34:31 (permalink)
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I personally like the raspy sound of Xpipes... When I had my 94 Gt that 5.0 roared with the Off-road Xpipe from BBK (learned never to get BBK HEADERS or Anything from them fast though)... Now I run Kooks or Pypes Headers (looks HQ is located 5 minutes from me) and there off-road H/X pipe... I am personally not a fan of Hpipes as I like loud... Anyone heading down to mustang week?

Should be another great collection of crash clips this year from Mustang Week!!  I've always had a sweet spot in my heart for Termi's with a Bassani X-pipe and a Borla Stinger setup.
 
But on a side note, if it's a V8, it's supposed to be loud and obnoxious...  If you can't deal with the rasp or the noise, then you probably bought the wrong car haha ;)

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 19:32:05 (permalink)
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I personally like the raspy sound of Xpipes... When I had my 94 Gt that 5.0 roared with the Off-road Xpipe from BBK (learned never to get BBK HEADERS or Anything from them fast though)... Now I run Kooks or Pypes Headers (looks HQ is located 5 minutes from me) and there off-road H/X pipe... I am personally not a fan of Hpipes as I like loud... Anyone heading down to mustang week?

Should be another great collection of crash clips this year from Mustang Week!!  I've always had a sweet spot in my heart for Termi's with a Bassani X-pipe and a Borla Stinger setup.
 
But on a side note, if it's a V8, it's supposed to be loud and obnoxious...  If you can't deal with the rasp or the noise, then you probably bought the wrong car haha ;)


So wrong. I hope for my Mustang to be a DD someday, and I want to be able to have a conversation with a passenger or talk on my cell while I drive. My buddy has a straight piped '91 with a vortech and while it's fun, I would sacrifice the extra ~20-40hp that silence takes away.

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 20:22:09 (permalink)
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Yes it weighs less than standard GT.

lol no.
 
I will even quote it again, just for you...  It will either the same weight or heavier.
 
http://blog.caranddriver....quick-is-a-flat-snake/
 
The curb weight of the GT350 is another story. Basing our curb-weight estimate on the regular, comparo- and10Best-winning 3810-pound GT is a given. It’s a known quantity. However, there are a lot of changes that will change weight. For the first time ever, Ford is employing magnetorheological dampers in one of its cars. These dampers will add some weight, and while it won’t be much, they are definitely heavier (including all the supporting doodads) than the GT’s dampers. The extra mass is well worth the added benefit of continuously variable damping, which may improve launch traction and will almost certainly improve upon the ride/handling balance that the GT nearly masters. Also, the GT350’s front brakes measure 15.5 inches in diameter and the rears are just 0.5-inch smaller. These are not lightweight carbon-ceramic rotors, but rather iron friction surfaces with an aluminum hat. Either way, they are adding mass to the straight-line equation.





 
Through the introduction of the new flat plane V8 that should cut some of the 444lbs of the 5.0L Mustang GT engine from the engine bay along with other weight saving components, the new Shelby GT350 will almost certainly weigh less than the 3,517 curb weight of the 2015 Mustang GT.

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 20:23:41 (permalink)
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I personally like the raspy sound of Xpipes... When I had my 94 Gt that 5.0 roared with the Off-road Xpipe from BBK (learned never to get BBK HEADERS or Anything from them fast though)... Now I run Kooks or Pypes Headers (looks HQ is located 5 minutes from me) and there off-road H/X pipe... I am personally not a fan of Hpipes as I like loud... Anyone heading down to mustang week?

Should be another great collection of crash clips this year from Mustang Week!!  I've always had a sweet spot in my heart for Termi's with a Bassani X-pipe and a Borla Stinger setup.
 
But on a side note, if it's a V8, it's supposed to be loud and obnoxious...  If you can't deal with the rasp or the noise, then you probably bought the wrong car haha ;)




Here's my 2015 GT's exhaust sound.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8vWZg2Onw
 
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 20:25:13 (permalink)
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I personally like the raspy sound of Xpipes... When I had my 94 Gt that 5.0 roared with the Off-road Xpipe from BBK (learned never to get BBK HEADERS or Anything from them fast though)... Now I run Kooks or Pypes Headers (looks HQ is located 5 minutes from me) and there off-road H/X pipe... I am personally not a fan of Hpipes as I like loud... Anyone heading down to mustang week?

Should be another great collection of crash clips this year from Mustang Week!!  I've always had a sweet spot in my heart for Termi's with a Bassani X-pipe and a Borla Stinger setup.
 
But on a side note, if it's a V8, it's supposed to be loud and obnoxious...  If you can't deal with the rasp or the noise, then you probably bought the wrong car haha ;)




Here's my 2015 GT's exhaust sound.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8vWZg2Onw
 
My new X-Pipe gets here on Monday, Will be installing it Thursday morning.


Oh hey, your still around, how you been?

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 20:33:50 (permalink)
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I personally like the raspy sound of Xpipes... When I had my 94 Gt that 5.0 roared with the Off-road Xpipe from BBK (learned never to get BBK HEADERS or Anything from them fast though)... Now I run Kooks or Pypes Headers (looks HQ is located 5 minutes from me) and there off-road H/X pipe... I am personally not a fan of Hpipes as I like loud... Anyone heading down to mustang week?

Should be another great collection of crash clips this year from Mustang Week!!  I've always had a sweet spot in my heart for Termi's with a Bassani X-pipe and a Borla Stinger setup.
 
But on a side note, if it's a V8, it's supposed to be loud and obnoxious...  If you can't deal with the rasp or the noise, then you probably bought the wrong car haha ;)




Here's my 2015 GT's exhaust sound.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8vWZg2Onw
 
My new X-Pipe gets here on Monday, Will be installing it Thursday morning.


Oh hey, your still around, how you been?



Good, Just been working real hard.
 
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 20:52:01 (permalink)
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Here's my 2015 GT's exhaust sound.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8vWZg2Onw
 
My new X-Pipe gets here on Monday, Will be installing it Thursday morning.




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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/04 21:38:58 (permalink)


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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/05 01:09:45 (permalink)
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Here's my 2015 GT's exhaust sound.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8vWZg2Onw
 
My new X-Pipe gets here on Monday, Will be installing it Thursday morning.




I bet all your neighbors just love you.




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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/05 02:36:51 (permalink)
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Sounds like a girly V6 on testosterone, but hollow.  What happened to the great sound of the 2v's and 4v's?  Even the new 5.0 sounds like a hollowed out anus compared to those "New Edges."

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/05 05:37:26 (permalink)
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Sounds like a girly V6 on testosterone, but hollow.  What happened to the great sound of the 2v's and 4v's?  Even the new 5.0 sounds like a hollowed out anus compared to those "New Edges."




You do realize that you are not being considered a reputable poster? Your attempts to warp others into engaging with your meaningless comments have fallen on deaf ears... Or is that  eyes?
 
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/05 06:57:21 (permalink)
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Here's my 2015 GT's exhaust sound.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8vWZg2Onw
 
My new X-Pipe gets here on Monday, Will be installing it Thursday morning.



Rush I think you'll like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQhXHdyH1VI
 
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/05 09:57:00 (permalink)
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Sounds like a girly V6 on testosterone, but hollow.  What happened to the great sound of the 2v's and 4v's?  Even the new 5.0 sounds like a hollowed out anus compared to those "New Edges."




You do realize that you are not being considered a reputable poster? Your attempts to warp others into engaging with your meaningless comments have fallen on deaf ears... Or is that  eyes?
 
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Hey Rush... Is yours a manual trans? 
 
 


No foul intentions, only honest opinions.  And we can go with "Deaf eyes," because that just sounds hilarious lol

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/05 15:05:12 (permalink)
There was a time where you would go with a V6 if you wanted Power and only went with a V8 just for the sound.... So yeah...

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/05 15:35:22 (permalink)
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Sounds like a girly V6 on testosterone, but hollow.  What happened to the great sound of the 2v's and 4v's?  Even the new 5.0 sounds like a hollowed out anus compared to those "New Edges."




You do realize that you are not being considered a reputable poster? Your attempts to warp others into engaging with your meaningless comments have fallen on deaf ears... Or is that  eyes?
 
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Hey Rush... Is yours a manual trans? 
 
 




Yes sir! I think you can tell by the video, Since I shifted way too quick lol. I was excited.

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/06 04:20:46 (permalink)
I would like to see to see them do a secret 3-5 year long test on popular muscle cars released in the past few years. See which mfg has the least amount of problems. Take them to the track and drag strip once in awhile to really put them to the test.
 
 
 


 
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/06 09:25:48 (permalink)

 
Man this engine sounds absolutely awesome.
 
The more I read about this car the more it impresses me...lighter engine, new aluminum steering knuckles and hubs, lighter IRS components, larger and lighter hollow sway bars, awesome new brake design, front clip that is 20% lighter due to high strength steel usage, lighter drive shaft, new Tremec TR3160 transmission, magnetic ride control.  Amazing HP and torque for a small N/A V8.  Man Afterburner, you are going to love this thing.
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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/06 09:53:29 (permalink)
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Man this engine sounds absolutely awesome.
 
The more I read about this car the more it impresses me...lighter engine, new aluminum steering knuckles and hubs, lighter IRS components, larger and lighter hollow sway bars, awesome new brake design, front clip that is 20% lighter due to high strength steel usage, lighter drive shaft, new Tremec TR3160 transmission, magnetic ride control.  Amazing HP and torque for a small N/A V8.  Man Afterburner, you are going to love this thing.


Sounds like someone rolling a metal garbage can down a hill full of marbles, atrocious.
 
Through the introduction of the new flat plane V8 that should cut some of the 444lbs of the 5.0L Mustang GT engine from the engine bay along with other weight saving components, the new Shelby GT350 will almost certainly weigh less than the 3,517 curb weight of the 2015 Mustang GT.

 
Car and Driver estimates 3,800lbs, you guys make me sad, I gave you guys the benefit of the doubt to actually read the article to see if you could find that (I even linked it twice)...
 
Directly from the prior article...
So, some bits will be heavier and others lighter. For our estimate, we’re giving the GT350 a 10-pound gift, but it’s essentially a wash with the manual GT at 3800 pounds.

 
These DOHC modular motors take up soooo much room, I would find it very hard that this engine weighs less than the 5.0L's, you're also giving 444lbs WITHOUT accessories, this engine easily tips the scales at 520lb with fluids and accessories.  The GT350R will be in the 3,650-3,700 weight range, this car is supposed to be substantially heavier.

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/06 10:08:35 (permalink)
Oh imagine that....you again.

Your article is old and the author was writing in the dark...most details were released after his writing last year.

You don't like the way it sounds, it's going to be two tonnes....yeah we get it.

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/06 10:27:49 (permalink)
kaninja
Oh imagine that....you again.

Your article is old and the author was writing in the dark...most details were released after his writing last year.

You don't like the way it sounds, it's going to be two tonnes....yeah we get it.

Most articles after his writing still state that it will be about 3 8 0 0 lbs, three thousand and eight hundred pounds.  Please point out where Ford has released and confirmed the weight of this car?
 
There is absolutely no way that this car would be just $52,000 if it were under 3,500lbs.

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/06 10:55:02 (permalink)
I never said it would be under 3,500 lbs. I said it wouldn't almost be 4,000 lbs or more than a standard GT.

Ford just finally released hp figures.....more specs to follow.

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/06 11:23:41 (permalink)
Rikki is such a troll, it cracks me up every time. He knows exactly what to say to russle your guys jimmies.

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Re: Second in line at local dealership for the new Shelby GT350... 2015/06/06 11:35:37 (permalink)
BaltothewolfSo wrong. I hope for my Mustang to be a DD someday, and I want to be able to have a conversation with a passenger or talk on my cell while I drive. My buddy has a straight piped '91 with a vortech and while it's fun, I would sacrifice the extra ~20-40hp that silence takes away.



You don't actually gain that much from running an ORP or muffler delete. 5-10 max.  The only thing you gain is sounding like a redneck. There's loud and then there is ridiculous.   Im not a fan of the "lets get this car stupidly loud" mentality.   These are typically the same people who think that every time they accelerate, it must be done at WOT and then are convinced that everyone is impressed by the undisciplined blatty sound of their exhaust. 
 
My current exhaust set up is loud enough that you don't forget its there, but quiet enough that you can have a conversation in the car at freeway speeds.   Go wide open throttle and it can get very loud.
 
From the sound clips of the new GT350, it sounds a bit subdued actually. But that's microphones vs. real world.   It sounds good, but I bet a some more open aftermarket mufflers would make it sound better.
 

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