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Greenfire

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Test drove one its garbage...

 
Test drove a Hellcat? Pix or it didn't happen. 
 
You can have your opinion, but I'm sure quite a few people would disagree with you. Looks like they're selling them out faster than they can be produced.
 
http://www.latimes.com/bu...at-20150410-story.html
 
I test drove a 2010 SRT at the time at Albany Dodge in upstate NY, and though I couldn't get on it really hard since the dealer was with me, it was a great car nonetheless.
 
I took pix, it was this exact Bright Silver Metallic one here:
 
 
 
 

Its garbage because they under designed it... The car can't "hookup" to save its life if you try to get a decent launch in first... Then the problem of me not being able to see out of it... Other than that amazing car... I don't need pix to prove I test drove one... I've also test driven many other cars... It's not hard to do... Go to a friends house who owns a Challenger Hellcat and drive it...

Not true. Guys in my Mopar club have no trouble hooking up. In fact, one of them possibly holds the hellcat record run so far at 10.71.

http://www.torquenews.com...quarter-mile-run-video

It isn't the car that can't hook up... It's the driver.

And it's not garbage nor is it "under designed."

Justin

JustinHEMI

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Greenfire

BF3PRO
Test drove one its garbage...

 
Test drove a Hellcat? Pix or it didn't happen. 
 
You can have your opinion, but I'm sure quite a few people would disagree with you. Looks like they're selling them out faster than they can be produced.
 
http://www.latimes.com/bu...at-20150410-story.html
 
I test drove a 2010 SRT at the time at Albany Dodge in upstate NY, and though I couldn't get on it really hard since the dealer was with me, it was a great car nonetheless.
 
I took pix, it was this exact Bright Silver Metallic one here:
 
 
 
 

Its garbage because they under designed it... The car can't "hookup" to save its life if you try to get a decent launch in first... Then the problem of me not being able to see out of it... Other than that amazing car... I don't need pix to prove I test drove one... I've also test driven many other cars... It's not hard to do... Go to a friends house who owns a Challenger Hellcat and drive it...

Not true. Guys in my Mopar club have no trouble hooking up. In fact, one of them possibly holds the hellcat record run so far at 10.71.

http://www.torquenews.com...quarter-mile-run-video

It isn't the car that can't hook up... It's the driver.

And it's not garbage nor is it "under designed."

Justin

I don't know man... Maybe his tires were just bad... It's not me... Believe me I can handle the power of the car it just wouldn't hookup in first or 2nd... The second I grabbed 3rd I was gone man and my head snapped back... I just wish I could see out of it better... I'll see what tires he had on it...

In any case, this is ABs gt350 thread, so don't want to go too far off topic.

I agree with him, and as I said before choose your flavor. It's amazing that we can buy these machines with these numbers and still get a nice ride when decent gas mileage. If you don't like one for one reason or the other, there's nothing wrong with that, but saying it's garbage and under designed with nothing substantive to back it up goes beyond simple dislike and is disingenuous, IMO.

By the way, on the way home from that amazing run, Ricci posted a pic on Facebook getting 23mpg. How cool is it that you can have 700hp with 20+mpg?

I can't wait to see ABs gt350 and, by the way, my Scat Pack Shaker will be born tomorrow. :D

Justin

Is it a muscle car? Or a pony car? Mustang was born a pony car, and the styling would be in line with that birthright.

JustinHEMI
Is it a muscle car? Or a pony car? Mustang was born a pony car, and the styling would be in line with that birthright.

I really don't think it makes a difference in the current form. Pony car originally referred to a 2+2 configuration with a long deck and small cockpit, and a small motor. The Mustang in it's current form is more akin to a muscle car. Now it seems to be trying to blur the line between muscle car and sports car.

Dukman
The GT350R is a different animal from the GT350.    And yes, all those wings and aero you see are functional.
 

Yeah but they are only manufacturing 100 or some low number Rs and they might do what they did in the 90s and make it to where you have to have a valid racing license to purchase it...

bill1024

RikkiTorment

bill1024
The way I learned it is
pony car. 4 seats, Long hood, smaller cab, short trunk.  Mustang, Camero, Dodge Dart...
 
Muscle car:4 seats, Long hood, bigger cab, long trunk.  Road Runner, GTO, Impala...
 
Sports car: 2 seats,   Corvett, Viper......
 

Traditionally that is how it is categorized, but it's hard to make classifications with modern technology and constant redesigns among platforms and generations.

So in other words the ponies are growing up to be big overweight horses that need to go on a diet.

For the most part, except I think the Camaro is the only "pony" car that lost weight for its next gen model.
 
You have Corvette models and the Viper now that stretch from the "Sports" car category to the "Super" car category.  Just lots and lots of gray areas now with more models and options available.

The video, that Stang must be stock or what sounds like a weak jazz supercharger, can her it chirping. Either way, grossly under powered......
 
AB, When do we get pics, vids of you drifting?
 
AB, When I asked if it could drift, most stock Stangs can't drift, so my question was still partially relevant?

Afterburner
Can a Mustang or a Camaro or Dodge Drifft? Really??? BWahahahahahahaha...
 

 
Yeah, and when Mr. Valet got back with the car, he promptly get a knuckle sandwich. And another for dessert. lol

Sounds like you had that country boy growing up also? I had a 80' Celica, one car I've always regretted getting rid of. Let's just say, my guardian angel worked overtime, some of the crazy I pulled...
 
I get to where I'm able to drive again, love to get an old(pre-72) Chevy/Ford truck, drop a stroked 327/302 or a 289 with a six speed tranny and show these kids how to play. Although I did own a Integra, very fun car for a fwd...

RikkiTorment
They just have confirmed that this new 5.2L is going to make only 429ft/lb at the crank, and it will not see peak torque until just under 5,000rpm...  At sub 4,000lbs and that low of torque, you'll see maybe 360-370ft/lbs at the wheels due to kinetic loss through the drivetrain?  That's kind of disappointing in my opinion.

Only?! 
 
429 foot pounds of torque from a 5.2 liter naturally aspirated engine is actually very good and the torque band is actually pretty wide. For comparison, a current 454 (7.4) produces 500 ft/lbs of torque.  
 
As for figuring what it might be at the wheels, take 17% from the crank numbers. 

RikkiTorment
For a 4,000lb tugboat, while the torque band is broad; those are garbage digits.  What modern 454 makes only 500ft/lbs?

Just pulled numbers from a basic crate motor off of Chevy's website. Numbers will increase dramatically with more mods and HP obviously. (Honestly, I was surprised the TQ was that low.) Just using that as a baseline comparison of a BB vs SB.

An LSx can and does make more more torque, but that's an apples to oranges comparison.

My car currently makes 514whp, 429wtq from a 4.6 and weighs in at 3700 with me in it. It most definitely does not feel like a tugboat.

The GT350 does not weigh 4,000 lbs....and it has lots of torque.

Yes it weighs less than standard GT.

Dukman

RikkiTorment
For a 4,000lb tugboat, while the torque band is broad; those are garbage digits.  What modern 454 makes only 500ft/lbs?

Just pulled numbers from a basic crate motor off of Chevy's website. Numbers will increase dramatically with more mods and HP obviously. (Honestly, I was surprised the TQ was that low.) Just using that as a baseline comparison of a BB vs SB.

An LSx can and does make more more torque, but that's an apples to oranges comparison.

My car currently makes 514whp, 429wtq from a 4.6 and weighs in at 3700 with me in it. It most definitely does not feel like a tugboat.

Dont push your 4.6 past 500 unless you get a new block... Believe me I speak from experience... carry on now!