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Re:SMP client setup with HP Cloud Services 2012/01/25 12:14:45 (permalink)
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I received the same email. You forgot to mention the best part "Five of your closest friends will be pre-qualified for our private beta and will receive invites immediately." 

 
Yeah, I noticed that there is no place to enter who referred you or which friends are your 'closest'.  How would they know if you told more than 5 people?  I kept it in PM's because I wasn't sure about posting the info for everyone.

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 16:34:11 (permalink)
Great guide, David! I signed up for the HP Cloud Service beta months ago and got my invite today.
 
david12857chmod +x fah6

I am stuck at this part of the installation. When I enter this command, I get a, "chmod: cannot access `fah6': No such file or directory" error.
 
Here's the complete readout:
 
root@server-35493:/# mkdir -p /folding
root@server-35493:/# cd /folding
root@server-35493:/folding# wget www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/FAH6.34-Linux64.tgz
--2012-01-26 00:22:53--  http://www.stanford.edu/g...se/FAH6.34-Linux64.tgz
Resolving www.stanford.edu... 171.64.13.26
Connecting to www.stanford.edu|171.64.13.26|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 146345 (143K) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: `FAH6.34-Linux64.tgz'
100%[==============================================================================>] 146,345     --.-K/s   in 0.1s
2012-01-26 00:22:53 (1022 KB/s) - `FAH6.34-Linux64.tgz' saved [146345/146345]
root@server-35493:/folding# chmod +x fah6
chmod: cannot access `fah6': No such file or directory

 
Any help would be appreciated! =)

 
 
 
 

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 16:39:08 (permalink)
Looks like you missed tar
 
wget www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/release/FAH6.34-Linux64.tgz
tar xzf FAH6.34-Linux64.tgz
chmod +x fah6

 
I changed a couple things recently but this wasn't one of them.
 

  
   
 
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 16:43:00 (permalink)
I love this cloud computing
The last 3 updates I got some good points but the last one I got over 35k with only 6 WUs
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 17:34:43 (permalink)
Stupid question...? Can I turn my PC off and still have Folding at Home running on HP's cloud service? Or once I shut my PC down, Folding at Home stops running and I have to restart it once I boot back up?
 
If so, what are the commands to re-start folding on the current WU once I've logged back into pUTTY? 
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 17:41:23 (permalink)
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Stupid question...? Can I turn my PC off and still have Folding at Home running on HP's cloud service? Or once I shut my PC down, Folding at Home stops running and I have to restart it once I boot back up?

If so, what are the commands to re-start folding on the current WU once I've logged back into pUTTY? 

From my understanding it stays folding 24/7 until you manually force it to stop on your end
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 18:03:30 (permalink)
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garetjax

Stupid question...? Can I turn my PC off and still have Folding at Home running on HP's cloud service? Or once I shut my PC down, Folding at Home stops running and I have to restart it once I boot back up?

If so, what are the commands to re-start folding on the current WU once I've logged back into pUTTY? 

From my understanding it stays folding 24/7 until you manually force it to stop on your end

 
I thought I had this covered. Closing PuTTy will completely disconnect your PC from HPCS. The client will keep running if and only if you start the client with the screen command and detach the screen before you close PuTTy.
 
screen allows us to enter new commands and close PuTTy while keeping the Folding@home client running.
After the client is running hold the Crtl down and press A then D to detach the screen. Always detach the screen before you close PuTTy.
Enter screen -r if you need to return to the Folding@home client.
 Remember to logon as root and enter screen -r to return to the Folding@home client if needed.

 
I'll work on it some more later. I updated several other things today and added HFM.NET instructions. 
http://forums.evga.com...px?high=&m=1429795
 
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 18:29:38 (permalink)
david12857The client will keep running if and only if you start the client with the screen command and detach the screen before you close PuTTy.
In the end though, if you turn off your PC, you are terminating your Folding at Home session on HP's cloud service, yes?
 
If so, is there no way around this?

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 18:45:39 (permalink)
No. The client will keep running if you follow the instructions (start client with screen command and detach the screen). It's that simple. Closing PuTTy will completely disconnect your PC from HPCS. Your PC is irrelevant after PuTTy is closed.
 
You have to connect with PuTTy, type screen -r and Ctrl+C to shutdown the client.
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Not use the screen command or not detach the screen before you close PuTTy. When you attempt to close PuTTy it will warn you that programs are running and closing PuTTy will kill them. Again your PC power is irrelevant.
 
The only way you PC power would matter is if you turn off your PC while Putty is connected and you didn't start the client with the screen command or detach the screen.
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 19:49:13 (permalink)
I noticed on two of my instances, when I start up FAH, it shows a message "Note: Turning on dynamic load balancing".  On these two instances I am getting a lower PPD.  The third instance (one of the 2xlarge servers) didn't show this message and gets 10k ppd more than the other 2xlarge running the same Project.  Can I control this or is this implemented by HP?

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 20:11:32 (permalink)
I'm only able to create three instances on AZ2 regardless of how I mix and match the server type. I have so far two of the 8 vCPU / 32GB RAM instances and one 4 vCPU / 16GB RAM instances. Since HP has asked that you create no more than five instances total, how come I top out at three for AZ2 and am unable to add two more instances for five total?
 
I'll probably have to create two more instances on AZ1 in order to reach my five total if I can't add them to AZ2. Is anyone else having to do this as well?
 
 

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 20:20:50 (permalink)
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I'm only able to create three instances on AZ2 regardless of how I mix and match the server type. I have so far two of the 8 vCPU / 32GB RAM instances and one 4 vCPU / 16GB RAM instances. Since HP has asked that you create no more than five instances total, how come I top out at three for AZ2 and am unable to add two more instances for five total?

I'll probably have to create two more instances on AZ1 in order to reach my five total if I can't add them to AZ2. Is anyone else having to do this as well?



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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 23:26:47 (permalink)
i dont remember seeing this in the thread is it possible to run bigadv on these servers?

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/25 23:38:50 (permalink)
Unfortunately not as it isnt 8 threaded cores, just 8core profiles, if they make 16 core profiles then yes.
 
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I noticed on two of my instances, when I start up FAH, it shows a message "Note: Turning on dynamic load balancing".  On these two instances I am getting a lower PPD.  The third instance (one of the 2xlarge servers) didn't show this message and gets 10k ppd more than the other 2xlarge running the same Project.  Can I control this or is this implemented by HP?

 
Yeah I was wondering about that, I may have to dig deeper into this!
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 01:38:31 (permalink)
PPD is hard to predict without knowing more about the physical hardware we're using and other software demands.
 
I'm seeing a big ± 10K variation on the 8 core VMs with HFM.NET. 
 
musky's BFS Installation (Post #3) guide might improve PPD. It's worth testing. It would be nice if I could register over there with my @gmail account and ask him. Does anyone have a HF account?

  
   
 
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 02:14:04 (permalink)
I can ask him tonight if you want. Still not sure if it's totally linked to that though.
 
In other news:
 

 
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 03:40:56 (permalink)
Sleinous I'm seriously gonna call your pet gold fish and tell her ....

in other other news: Holy hell the PPD is awesome, and more than my brain can handle
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 04:05:31 (permalink)
Oh the lies that keep spewing out of your finger tips!

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 04:07:35 (permalink)
It's a gift. I was born this way (no Lady gaga reference)

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 04:29:02 (permalink)
Mhm, we'll see about that!

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 05:31:07 (permalink)
robhall86i dont remember seeing this in the thread is it possible to run bigadv on these servers?

Yes. You will have to go through the advanced configuration settings and change the option to [yes].



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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 06:00:38 (permalink)
that will enable -advmethods, but the -bigadv flag needs to be added to extra info, however as these are 8 cores you wont ever pick up bigadv units due to the new minimum req.
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 06:36:43 (permalink)
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that will enable -advmethods, but the -bigadv flag needs to be added to extra info, however as these are 8 cores you wont ever pick up bigadv units due to the new minimum req.

How do I get back to config my client?
I didn't set advmethod on some of them
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 07:45:29 (permalink)
i believe is the command is ./fah6 -config 

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/26 18:36:04 (permalink)
I just set up 40 Vcores. yum

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/27 01:59:03 (permalink)
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Sleinous

that will enable -advmethods, but the -bigadv flag needs to be added to extra info, however as these are 8 cores you wont ever pick up bigadv units due to the new minimum req.

How do I get back to config my client?
I didn't set advmethod on some of them 

 cd /folding screen

 ./fah6 -smp 8 -configonly

 
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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/27 02:49:34 (permalink)
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Sleinous

that will enable -advmethods, but the -bigadv flag needs to be added to extra info, however as these are 8 cores you wont ever pick up bigadv units due to the new minimum req.

How do I get back to config my client?
I didn't set advmethod on some of them 

 cd /folding screen

 ./fah6 -smp 8 -configonly


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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/27 03:23:13 (permalink)
can you say "overkill"?

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/27 04:03:14 (permalink)
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can you say "overkill"?

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Re:HP Cloud Services SMP client setup 2012/01/27 06:22:24 (permalink)
In order to set up additional accounts, do you have to enter a new credit card for HP's Cloud Service, or can you use the same one?
 
Also, does anyone have any idea how long HP's Cloud Service beta will last before we need to start paying?

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