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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/03 22:47:47
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Nereus Obviously compared to the rumored specs.. what is so hard to understand about that? Something in the water lately..
because it seems you think that the comparison is a fact, when it is based on rumors. Even then, the information is wrong since GTX 750 uses GM104, and 800 series uses GM20X. There is no facts or confirmation about any of this and people are already crying and nay-saying at rumors.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/04 00:44:39
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The GTX 750 and 750 Ti actually use GM107. 880/870 should be using GM204.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/04 04:26:19
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Nereus Obviously compared to the rumored specs.. what is so hard to understand about that? Something in the water lately..
because it seems you think that the comparison is a fact, when it is based on rumors. Even then, the information is wrong since GTX 750 uses GM104, and 800 series uses GM20X. There is no facts or confirmation about any of this and people are already crying and nay-saying at rumors.
I acknowledged it was RUMORED specs, what part of that did you not understand? Enough already, stop being a dick.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/04 04:34:37
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Nereus Obviously compared to the rumored specs.. what is so hard to understand about that? Something in the water lately..
because it seems you think that the comparison is a fact, when it is based on rumors. Even then, the information is wrong since GTX 750 uses GM104, and 800 series uses GM20X. There is no facts or confirmation about any of this and people are already crying and nay-saying at rumors.
I acknowledged it was RUMORED specs, what part of that did you not understand? Enough already, stop being a dick.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/04 05:38:03
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Nereus Obviously compared to the rumored specs.. what is so hard to understand about that? Something in the water lately..
because it seems you think that the comparison is a fact, when it is based on rumors. Even then, the information is wrong since GTX 750 uses GM104, and 800 series uses GM20X. There is no facts or confirmation about any of this and people are already crying and nay-saying at rumors.
I acknowledged it was RUMORED specs, what part of that did you not understand? Enough already, stop being a dick.
I wasn't trying to come off as a dick, I am just seeing a lot of rumors going around and no solid facts. Though I do admit your little comment about "something in the water lately..." with the rolling eyes did get me upset. There are just many people right now taking these rumors as facts and going all "OMG worst card evar. Nvidia so terrible" mentality it is just annoying to see, when in all honesty we have nothing. It reminds me of that delid'd Haswell-E we saw that supposedly had 12 cores turned out to be not the haswell-e and people went nuts that "Haswell-e has 4 cores purposely turned off, Intel scamming us again". Again sorry if I came off as a dick, and I did see your changed the original post to state rumor and I thank you.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/04 07:38:48
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seta8967 I wasn't trying to come off as a dick, I am just seeing a lot of rumors going around and no solid facts. Though I do admit your little comment about "something in the water lately..." with the rolling eyes did get me upset. There are just many people right now taking these rumors as facts and going all "OMG worst card evar. Nvidia so terrible" mentality it is just annoying to see, when in all honesty we have nothing. It reminds me of that delid'd Haswell-E we saw that supposedly had 12 cores turned out to be not the haswell-e and people went nuts that "Haswell-e has 4 cores purposely turned off, Intel scamming us again". Again sorry if I came off as a dick, and I did see your changed the original post to state rumor and I thank you.
Ok no worries, just a misunderstanding, sorry here too. Cheers. I expect the 880 to be a bit better than those rumored specs tbh, will have to wait and see. Here's hoping.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/04 15:06:59
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/04 16:09:19
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all work now.... links were not dead seems the forums are picky about links - I need to place a space after the link so the FULL addr is in anyways news is confirmed press release mid sept at gamescon paper launch - cards may be avail late sept or early oct The company could tease its upcoming products at Gamescom. The company is reportedly holding a huge media event in California this September, where it's widely expected to discuss high-end graphics cards based on the "Maxwell" architecture. http://www.techpowerup.com/203661/nvidia-to-launch-geforce-gtx-880-in-september.html not only that gigabyte confirmed their PR - Gigabyte has commercial in late sept with launch
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/04 22:33:09
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Its great to see these GPUs come along, but i wont do what i did 2 years ago with the 680. Believe in the die size, if its anything of XX4 don't expect insane power. In addition to sub 384/448 bit and if the die size is well under ~500mm^2. Paying for a mid range card at a premium $500 price, really put nVidia on my bad side. Better off waiting big daddy GM200/210 etc. with 20nm refresh. (GTX980)
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/05 01:11:33
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Mystikalrush Its great to see these GPUs come along, but i wont do what i did 2 years ago with the 680. Believe in the die size, if its anything of XX4 don't expect insane power. In addition to sub 384/448 bit and if the die size is well under ~500mm^2. Paying for a mid range card at a premium $500 price, really put nVidia on my bad side. Better off waiting big daddy GM200/210 etc. with 20nm refresh. (GTX980)
then aftee the 980 there is the 980ti. so better to wait for that. I am really hoping nvidia doesn't pull this stunt. I know they probably will though.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/05 01:47:15
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I have tp say I'm glad tp see so many are finally hip to the schemes going on. Basically, it boils down to this....for the 9 series to come along and actually seem like a improvement they have to cut the 8 series down some. That way they make twice the money on the same r and d. Be patient guys. \m/
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/05 02:54:48
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AMD don't need to launch GPU, only to drop price of R9-295X on real as Dual R9-290X and to sell for 900$. People will fight to buy. NVIDIA can't make 100% stronger card than Titan Black. Or R9-390X for 550-600$ and R9-295X for 900-1000$.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/05 03:12:57
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Vlada011 AMD don't need to launch GPU, only to drop price of R9-295X on real as Dual R9-290X and to sell for 900$. People will fight to buy. NVIDIA can't make 100% stronger card than Titan Black. Or R9-390X for 550-600$ and R9-295X for 900-1000$.
I am sure Nvidia can. Why I say that is because they always be holding back on the true potential of what their cards can do. I am sure many know what I mean. You know they got to get their profit by pushing a little bit here and a little bit there.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/05 12:13:43
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Vlada011 AMD don't need to launch GPU, only to drop price of R9-295X on real as Dual R9-290X and to sell for 900$. People will fight to buy. NVIDIA can't make 100% stronger card than Titan Black. Or R9-390X for 550-600$ and R9-295X for 900-1000$.
oh really? I can see it now, GTX 790 Dual GTX 780 Ti's for 1100 problem solved and they can do it.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/05 14:20:57
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You know that NVIDIA will not make GTX790 because they can't optimize dual GK110 better than on Titan Z, and he cost $3000. I never saw someone to make same card, from same chips with two different numbers, with 2000$ price difference. Dual GK110 is Titan Z and that story is over. AMD will drop price of R9-295X only if they don't have card for competition with NVIDIA. All we know that AMD will launch 20% better card than GTX880 as R9-390X for little higher price and NVIDIA will launch than GM210 later. I only hope not 500$ more for 15-20% better card.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/05 17:15:29
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Vlada011 You know that NVIDIA will not make GTX790 because they can't optimize dual GK110 better than on Titan Z, and he cost $3000. I never saw someone to make same card, from same chips with two different numbers, with 2000$ price difference. Dual GK110 is Titan Z and that story is over. AMD will drop price of R9-295X only if they don't have card for competition with NVIDIA. All we know that AMD will launch 20% better card than GTX880 as R9-390X for little higher price and NVIDIA will launch than GM210 later. I only hope not 500$ more for 15-20% better card.
Didn't GURU3D or OCN, stated that AMD wasn't planning on a 300 series. I know they were having trouble getting the loan to produce a new chipset.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 05:09:50
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I didn't read, to be honest I don't read much news about AMD Radeon and special their Processors. Only when they launch something to compare with NVIDIA. That mean they will stay few months more after NVIDIA launch GTX880 with R9-290X.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 12:56:17
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Vlada011 You know that NVIDIA will not make GTX790 because they can't optimize dual GK110 better than on Titan Z, and he cost $3000. I never saw someone to make same card, from same chips with two different numbers, with 2000$ price difference. Dual GK110 is Titan Z and that story is over. AMD will drop price of R9-295X only if they don't have card for competition with NVIDIA. All we know that AMD will launch 20% better card than GTX880 as R9-390X for little higher price and NVIDIA will launch than GM210 later. I only hope not 500$ more for 15-20% better card.
nah AMD is loosing the war, NVidia had the Hawaii killer ready to go a year before the Hawaii showed up, AMD is now behind the curve, they have slowly but assurdely fallen from their hard earned place of 2003-2006. consider the last time ATI was soundly ontop was the X1950XTX
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 14:52:40
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Vlada011 You know that NVIDIA will not make GTX790 because they can't optimize dual GK110 better than on Titan Z, and he cost $3000. I never saw someone to make same card, from same chips with two different numbers, with 2000$ price difference. Dual GK110 is Titan Z and that story is over. AMD will drop price of R9-295X only if they don't have card for competition with NVIDIA. All we know that AMD will launch 20% better card than GTX880 as R9-390X for little higher price and NVIDIA will launch than GM210 later. I only hope not 500$ more for 15-20% better card.
nah AMD is loosing the war, NVidia had the Hawaii killer ready to go a year before the Hawaii showed up, AMD is now behind the curve, they have slowly but assurdely fallen from their hard earned place of 2003-2006. consider the last time ATI was soundly ontop was the X1950XTX
I loved my X1950XTX. It was a great card at the time.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 14:57:01
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Vlada011 You know that NVIDIA will not make GTX790 because they can't optimize dual GK110 better than on Titan Z, and he cost $3000. I never saw someone to make same card, from same chips with two different numbers, with 2000$ price difference. Dual GK110 is Titan Z and that story is over. AMD will drop price of R9-295X only if they don't have card for competition with NVIDIA. All we know that AMD will launch 20% better card than GTX880 as R9-390X for little higher price and NVIDIA will launch than GM210 later. I only hope not 500$ more for 15-20% better card.
nah AMD is loosing the war, NVidia had the Hawaii killer ready to go a year before the Hawaii showed up, AMD is now behind the curve, they have slowly but assurdely fallen from their hard earned place of 2003-2006. consider the last time ATI was soundly ontop was the X1950XTX
Really? AMD currently has some really great cards. They are not behind any curve.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 16:21:26
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It is sad we no longer see the performance jumps between generations like we used to years ago. Also the pricing keeps going up which does suck for everyone. That being said at least I feel like I'm getting my money back on the Titans. I feel like there is not enough competition. AMD and Nvidia are both making money so what do they care. I wish a third company would emerge, it would be great for the consumer.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 18:47:44
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Seriously 3 power plugs?
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 19:08:47
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Vlada011 You know that NVIDIA will not make GTX790 because they can't optimize dual GK110 better than on Titan Z, and he cost $3000. I never saw someone to make same card, from same chips with two different numbers, with 2000$ price difference. Dual GK110 is Titan Z and that story is over. AMD will drop price of R9-295X only if they don't have card for competition with NVIDIA. All we know that AMD will launch 20% better card than GTX880 as R9-390X for little higher price and NVIDIA will launch than GM210 later. I only hope not 500$ more for 15-20% better card.
nah AMD is loosing the war, NVidia had the Hawaii killer ready to go a year before the Hawaii showed up, AMD is now behind the curve, they have slowly but assurdely fallen from their hard earned place of 2003-2006. consider the last time ATI was soundly ontop was the X1950XTX
Really? AMD currently has some really great cards. They are not behind any curve.
maybe better priced, but considering Nvidia was able to put the GK110 out to beat the Hawaii, and the GK110 specs had been known for some time and was tapped out at the same time the GK114 was back in early 2012 is astounding, AMD is playing catchup. Every generation AMD catch's up but never surpasses per core preformance since we entered 2007. The HD4870 was able to beat the 8800 Ultra but was blown away by the GTX 280, the HD 5870 was able to beat the GTX 285 but the 480 nuked it, the 580 nuked the 6970, the 680 nuked the 7870, and the 780ti nuked the 290x, and again the 780Ti was tapped out 2 1/2 years ago lol
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 20:54:35
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Only if NVIDIA drop price little for premium chips. It's not fair to AMD sell for 500$ and NVIDIA for 1000$.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 21:59:14
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Vlada011 You know that NVIDIA will not make GTX790 because they can't optimize dual GK110 better than on Titan Z, and he cost $3000. I never saw someone to make same card, from same chips with two different numbers, with 2000$ price difference. Dual GK110 is Titan Z and that story is over. AMD will drop price of R9-295X only if they don't have card for competition with NVIDIA. All we know that AMD will launch 20% better card than GTX880 as R9-390X for little higher price and NVIDIA will launch than GM210 later. I only hope not 500$ more for 15-20% better card.
nah AMD is loosing the war, NVidia had the Hawaii killer ready to go a year before the Hawaii showed up, AMD is now behind the curve, they have slowly but assurdely fallen from their hard earned place of 2003-2006. consider the last time ATI was soundly ontop was the X1950XTX
Really? AMD currently has some really great cards. They are not behind any curve.
maybe better priced, but considering Nvidia was able to put the GK110 out to beat the Hawaii, and the GK110 specs had been known for some time and was tapped out at the same time the GK114 was back in early 2012 is astounding, AMD is playing catchup. Every generation AMD catch's up but never surpasses per core preformance since we entered 2007. The HD4870 was able to beat the 8800 Ultra but was blown away by the GTX 280, the HD 5870 was able to beat the GTX 285 but the 480 nuked it, the 580 nuked the 6970, the 680 nuked the 7870, and the 780ti nuked the 290x, and again the 780Ti was tapped out 2 1/2 years ago lol
ugh not entirely nuked, the GTX 480 was only 15% faster than the HD 5870, only the HD 5870 was on the market for about a year, the GTX 480 was a very delayed late release. the R9 290X is on par with a GTX 780 Ti in most cases, in 4K the R9 290X has the advantage + with 2-Way CFX and higher 2x R9 290X crush 2x GTX 780 TI all thanks to much better Multi GPGPU scaling, no messy ribbon cables are of need, to be honest I find your comparison extremely inaccurate and unprofessional. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1062?vs=1135 And yes in most cases the GTX 480 is faster than the HD 5870, but do keep in mind the HD 5870 was on the market for about 8 to 9 months earler than GTX 480, the HD 5870 is also the world's first DX11 VGA card to ever reach the market likewise You may want to give this a good read before you post such bogus information http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1073?vs=1057 In most titles 2x R9 290X is faster than 2x 780 Ti and lots cheaper as well
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/06 22:02:35
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Nereus Seriously 3 power plugs?
other prototypes usually have more power plugs than the actual product, this is so they can figure out how much power they need to send a card out with. Does it need 8+6 or can it use 6+6. the proto gtx750 we saw had 8+6, but the real gtx750 has none, and the 750ti has a 6.
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
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Vlada011 Only if NVIDIA drop price little for premium chips. It's not fair to AMD sell for 500$ and NVIDIA for 1000$.
AMD never released a card in the 1000 dollar gamer market because that market is so small. There is not enough people buying cards at that price for either of them to try to compete. There is no profit to be made if they split that market in half. Also can we stop saying GPU prices have gone up. they have gone down. 8800 ultras were 900 dollars each, with inflation that is higher then 1000 is today. Look there are thing to be annoyed at, but everyone complaining in this thread have misplaced greivences. Also who the hell cares if the 780ti nuked a 290x? they are in to compleatly different markets. Thats like going oh yea, BMW's m3 nuked VW's Jetta... Who cares? Also the GK110/100 never got released in ANY format. ANY, meaning the 680 would have been a gK104 REGARDLESS of what AMD put out because nividia faild to get a working 500mm chip. Nor would I say a 680 nuked the 7970. Thats just not true. Also on the 3 plug card, did anyone notice its 2 6 pins and 1 8pin? You guys realize thats the same as 2 8pins right? thats only 375W
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Re: GTX 880, 870, 860 out in October
2014/08/07 11:00:31
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Vlada011 You know that NVIDIA will not make GTX790 because they can't optimize dual GK110 better than on Titan Z, and he cost $3000. I never saw someone to make same card, from same chips with two different numbers, with 2000$ price difference. Dual GK110 is Titan Z and that story is over. AMD will drop price of R9-295X only if they don't have card for competition with NVIDIA. All we know that AMD will launch 20% better card than GTX880 as R9-390X for little higher price and NVIDIA will launch than GM210 later. I only hope not 500$ more for 15-20% better card.
nah AMD is loosing the war, NVidia had the Hawaii killer ready to go a year before the Hawaii showed up, AMD is now behind the curve, they have slowly but assurdely fallen from their hard earned place of 2003-2006. consider the last time ATI was soundly ontop was the X1950XTX
Really? AMD currently has some really great cards. They are not behind any curve.
maybe better priced, but considering Nvidia was able to put the GK110 out to beat the Hawaii, and the GK110 specs had been known for some time and was tapped out at the same time the GK114 was back in early 2012 is astounding, AMD is playing catchup. Every generation AMD catch's up but never surpasses per core preformance since we entered 2007. The HD4870 was able to beat the 8800 Ultra but was blown away by the GTX 280, the HD 5870 was able to beat the GTX 285 but the 480 nuked it, the 580 nuked the 6970, the 680 nuked the 7870, and the 780ti nuked the 290x, and again the 780Ti was tapped out 2 1/2 years ago lol
ugh not entirely nuked, the GTX 480 was only 15% faster than the HD 5870, only the HD 5870 was on the market for about a year, the GTX 480 was a very delayed late release. the R9 290X is on par with a GTX 780 Ti in most cases, in 4K the R9 290X has the advantage + with 2-Way CFX and higher 2x R9 290X crush 2x GTX 780 TI all thanks to much better Multi GPGPU scaling, no messy ribbon cables are of need, to be honest I find your comparison extremely inaccurate and unprofessional. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1062?vs=1135 And yes in most cases the GTX 480 is faster than the HD 5870, but do keep in mind the HD 5870 was on the market for about 8 to 9 months earler than GTX 480, the HD 5870 is also the world's first DX11 VGA card to ever reach the market likewise You may want to give this a good read before you post such bogus information http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1073?vs=1057 In most titles 2x R9 290X is faster than 2x 780 Ti and lots cheaper as well
Anand is the only way saything such things though, and I don't trust his site havn't since the Geforce 6/7 debacle
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