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2014/10/04 09:24:06 (permalink)
Hi All,
 
I've noticed there is a severe lack of information/reviews on the EVGA GTX 970 blower design (regular and SC edition)
 
If anyone has one of these cards and would be willing to share info on noise, temperatures at load and overclockability, it would be much appreciated!  I know I am not the only one seeking this information, so any info would be wonderful 
 

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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/04 14:24:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mcknig.k 2014/10/04 18:33:15
 
Just installed a GTX-970 SC (04G-P4-1972-KR) in my wife's desktop yesterday. Ran it through some AIDA64 stress tests last night and it barely reached the low 70's at stock settings under full load, and that's with ~76F ambient, so the temperatures/cooling seems good, and it's definitely an improvement over her previous card, a vanilla GTX-580. The 970 weighs like half the weight of the 580, if that.. noticed that immediately.
 
I have not tried overclocking it, but Precision 4.2.1 functions with this card without issue so far.
 
There does seem to be a little bit of noise, like a teeny tiny turbine starting up, but my Mrs didn't seem to notice it. Maybe that is coil whine? I've never had coil whine before so I'm not sure if it's that or just the fan noise. I'm going to give it a few days anyway and see if it just needs a bit of a settling in period, or maybe I'm just not used to sitting at her workstation and that is the normal noise... Sorry I haven't benchmarked or anything yet, just don't have the time.
 
 


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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/04 15:00:17 (permalink)
I haven't had the EVGA card, but I had the GALAX blower design card and I sent it back as the motor noise on the fan was horrible, even at idle. I've heard of many problems like this on the short pcb cards.
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/04 18:38:00 (permalink)
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Just installed a GTX-970 SC (04G-P4-1972-KR) in my wife's desktop yesterday. Ran it through some AIDA64 stress tests last night and it barely reached the low 70's at stock settings under full load, and that's with ~76F ambient, so the temperatures/cooling seems good, and it's definitely an improvement over her previous card, a vanilla GTX-580. The 970 weighs like half the weight of the 580, if that.. noticed that immediately.
 
I have not tried overclocking it, but Precision 4.2.1 functions with this card without issue so far.
 
There does seem to be a little bit of noise, like a teeny tiny turbine starting up, but my Mrs didn't seem to notice it. Maybe that is coil whine? I've never had coil whine before so I'm not sure if it's that or just the fan noise. I'm going to give it a few days anyway and see if it just needs a bit of a settling in period, or maybe I'm just not used to sitting at her workstation and that is the normal noise... Sorry I haven't benchmarked or anything yet, just don't have the time.
 
 


Thanks for the info!  I'm not so much concerned about fan noise assuming it is operating normally, it's that dang coil whine that I hope to avoid (in the process of returning a Zotac 970 that emits a loud buzzing sound).  I purchased the same card, the superclocked EVGA 970, hoping to have a good experience with it as it is my first EVGA purchase.  Despite their overwhelming reputation prior to the 900 series launch, post launch they have been facing a lot of criticism from what I have gathered. Just hoping to get a reasonably quiet card with no coil whine/buzzing that operates near 70 C max at full load
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/05 03:39:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mcknig.k 2014/10/05 15:41:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj-fn5Fdeqo#t=6m05s
Here's what the short pcb blowers sound like at idle. The grinding noise is pretty bad in my opinion.
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/05 03:43:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mcknig.k 2014/10/05 15:41:35
 Hi
I have 2 970 sc with the blower,  they both work great I am getting 1341 on the gpu clock on both of them on default settings.  The temp never gets over 76 I have not tried much oc yet
but hit 1406 just playing around at the default voltage have not tried any higher yet.  Really dont see the need to, I dont have any coil whine either, these cards are fantastic.

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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/05 15:44:33 (permalink)
Thanks everyone for the input.  Certainly sounds like the heavy amount of criticism these models have been subjected is unwarranted.
 
Oddly enough, after watching the video link, I kind of want one more - is it weird that I like the sound of the blowers?
 
Will be getting my EVGA 970 SC this Wednesday, I'll let ya'll know what I think! 
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/06 13:26:15 (permalink)
Hi everyone, I just bought the 04G-P4-1972-KR and did my first build with it. Card seems to be working fine, but when I go to GeForce Experience and go to LED Visualizer and click Configure I get this message: "Supported NVIDIA cards are not found on the system." 

Card seems to be working fine, already played Diablo 3 with it. GeForce Experience tells me everything is good to go with setting up LED visualizer, but then I get this message. Any help would be appreciated. I'm coming off a decade of Mac only use, so I'm totally new to all this. 
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/06 13:38:07 (permalink)
I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain LED visualizer is used to control LED lightning on the cards themselves - like on the GTX 980 reference card, for example (see below).  The 04G-P4-1972-KR does not have any LEDs to control as far as I know.
 

 
With that being said, I will be getting my own 04G-P4-1972-KR (970 SC) tomorrow.  How are your temps/noise?
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/06 13:39:47 (permalink)
oh, duh doy. welp, that's embarrassing that i didn't notice that. thank you though. loving the card. 
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/07 18:07:16 (permalink)
Received this card today (970 SC blower).
 
Happy with the performance and temps - on a 80% at 70C fan curve, chip is going above 70C on Unigine Valley (Extreme HD preset)
 
Fan is very quiet at idle and though it is audible at load, the sound is not distracting - just ambient noise, blends in with case fans
 
Was a bit disappointed that the strips along the top are not real brushed aluminum - they are stickers.  Thought maybe EVGA would add a wee bit of a nice metal finish considering the rest of the shroud is plastic...I was wrong.  Oh well!
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/07 21:15:31 (permalink)
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Here's what the short pcb blowers sound like at idle. The grinding noise is pretty bad in my opinion.




I have the 970 SC and it sounds nothing like the 670 in the video.  It's a very dull sound that isn't louder than my case fans even at a high speed.  I can't even hear it at idle.

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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/08 10:59:40 (permalink)
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Here's what the short pcb blowers sound like at idle. The grinding noise is pretty bad in my opinion.




I have the 970 SC and it sounds nothing like the 670 in the video.  It's a very dull sound that isn't louder than my case fans even at a high speed.  I can't even hear it at idle.


I had two Galax ones and they both sounded like that. Maybe the EVGA ones are different.
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/09 00:56:52 (permalink)
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Just installed a GTX-970 SC (04G-P4-1972-KR) in my wife's desktop yesterday. Ran it through some AIDA64 stress tests last night and it barely reached the low 70's at stock settings under full load, and that's with ~76F ambient, so the temperatures/cooling seems good, and it's definitely an improvement over her previous card, a vanilla GTX-580. The 970 weighs like half the weight of the 580, if that.. noticed that immediately.
 
I have not tried overclocking it, but Precision 4.2.1 functions with this card without issue so far.
 
There does seem to be a little bit of noise, like a teeny tiny turbine starting up, but my Mrs didn't seem to notice it. Maybe that is coil whine? I've never had coil whine before so I'm not sure if it's that or just the fan noise. I'm going to give it a few days anyway and see if it just needs a bit of a settling in period, or maybe I'm just not used to sitting at her workstation and that is the normal noise... Sorry I haven't benchmarked or anything yet, just don't have the time.

I just did a quick run of 3DMark11 and FireStrike on my wife's desktop (just one run of each). Stock clock on the 970SC and a mild 4GHz clock on the i7-3820. Temps stayed low throughout (high 60's max) which was impressive, although it's a little cooler out tonight. Scores as follows:
 
3DMark11 : P13253
FireStrike : 9733
 
That's a better score than a previous setup of an i7-930 with 2 x GTX-580 cards (P11708 on 3DMark11).
 
Unfortunately that turbine whine sound is still there, particularly under load, so I did the highly technical 'finger on the fan' test, and it is definitely the fan producing the noise, not coil whine. I have a couple of non-ACX GTX-980SC cards to install on my own desktop; providing those fans run ok, I may do a step-up to a 980SC for my wife instead of trying to RMA the 970SC. The noise isn't particularly loud at all, it's just the pitch that is a little annoying. With headphones on or speakers on with a bit of volume, you probably wouldn't even notice it. 
 
In a nutshell, performance and cooling is excellent on these 970SC cards, and unbeatable value for money. A few may have a bit of fan noise, but it's not extreme by any means, at least not in my case, and it may not be an issue for many anyway.  
 
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/09 03:42:48 (permalink)
NereusThe noise isn't particularly loud at all, it's just the pitch that is a little annoying. With headphones on or speakers on with a bit of volume, you probably wouldn't even notice it. 
 

Same feeling here. The fan has just a bit more own noise as my old evga 670. My stable overclock seems to be around +92 for the Core and very good +554 for the RAM. Unfortunately the card starts to limit itself all the time with hitting 80° to quickly.
One thing i noticed that even with non-additional overclock this 970 sucks almost 25Watts more as my old 670 even when the 9xx cards should be efficiency kings.
Reading other tests of EVGA ACX it seems the power circuits on the 970s is lousy against the reference 980 design. A Nvidia reference 980 needs less power as the 970. Strange!

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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/09 21:02:13 (permalink)
I recently purchased the same EVGA GTX 970 SC for use in my Alienware X51 R2 to replace the stock GTX 760ti. I am impressed with the speed of this card, as it is posting 1342mhz in boost despite the 1279mhz in the reference specs (which I can't figure out), and I have been able to post a Heaven 4.0 score of 2200 on the dot, which is about 1000 higher than my 760ti could do. I am running Heaven at High Quality, Tesselation Normal, 2xAA, 1080p, and have scored as high as 2249 on a continuous loop.

What is really making me confused and upset, however, is the temperature of this card. I am seeing literally as high as 88c during benchmarking after 15 minutes or so, and it sustains these temps (without throttling below 1329mhz or artifacting at all, so, I can't seem to see that there is anything seriously wrong with the chipset). I am also running AC4: Black Flag at max settings and having the same outrageously high temps, even up to 91-92c.

The X51 is a tight case, but it has an additional fan placed directly adjacent to the front end of the GPU that sucks air into the path of the GPU's blower intake, and the room temp is only 24c and climate controlled. Idle GPU temp is around 40-45c, which I would expect, but even with an aggressive fan profile (100% at 80c), I am peaking at 86-91c during these benchmarks or 30-60 minutes of AC4, which seems horribly hot for such a new card at stock speeds. I sprung for the 5yr extended warranty because I want this baby to last, and I am already considering an RMA or a replacement.

Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated immensely. I am attached to this card, but not this particular one, and am strongly considering getting another of the same to replace this one and enact my warranty.
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/10 06:31:36 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I have just installed a 04G-P4-1972-KR (SC version).
 
Using MSI Afterburner (EVGA Precision is too cluttered) I can add +125 to the Core Clock and +350 (700) to the Memory Clock (Power Limit set to Max, Fan Speed on Auto).
 
Firestrike score of 10248
Heaven 4.0 score of 1515 (1080P 8xAA, Ultra Quality, Extreme Tesselation)
Valley 1.0 score of 3227 (1080P, 4xAA, Ultra Quality)
 
Temperature peaks at around 83c during benchmarking.
Nice and stable.
Can hear the fan at peak load but it's hardly audible - no whine or anything like that.
 
Upped a bit more to +150 to the Core Clock and +360 (720) to the Memory Clock and still running nicely.
At those settings under GPU-Z I have these numbers:
 
GPU Clock: 1300MHz - Memory: 1933MHz - Boost: 1439MHz
Default Clock: 1140MHz - Memory: 1753MHz - Boost: 1279MHz
 
I haven't touched the Core Voltage.
I think I can probably go a bit higher.


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post edited by seanrm - 2014/10/10 21:52:45
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/10 07:37:09 (permalink)
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I recently purchased the same EVGA GTX 970 SC for use in my Alienware X51 R2 to replace the stock GTX 760ti. I am impressed with the speed of this card, as it is posting 1342mhz in boost despite the 1279mhz in the reference specs (which I can't figure out), and I have been able to post a Heaven 4.0 score of 2200 on the dot, which is about 1000 higher than my 760ti could do. I am running Heaven at High Quality, Tesselation Normal, 2xAA, 1080p, and have scored as high as 2249 on a continuous loop.

What is really making me confused and upset, however, is the temperature of this card. I am seeing literally as high as 88c during benchmarking after 15 minutes or so, and it sustains these temps (without throttling below 1329mhz or artifacting at all, so, I can't seem to see that there is anything seriously wrong with the chipset). I am also running AC4: Black Flag at max settings and having the same outrageously high temps, even up to 91-92c.

The X51 is a tight case, but it has an additional fan placed directly adjacent to the front end of the GPU that sucks air into the path of the GPU's blower intake, and the room temp is only 24c and climate controlled. Idle GPU temp is around 40-45c, which I would expect, but even with an aggressive fan profile (100% at 80c), I am peaking at 86-91c during these benchmarks or 30-60 minutes of AC4, which seems horribly hot for such a new card at stock speeds. I sprung for the 5yr extended warranty because I want this baby to last, and I am already considering an RMA or a replacement.

Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated immensely. I am attached to this card, but not this particular one, and am strongly considering getting another of the same to replace this one and enact my warranty.

I think your card is faulty. My 970s idled at under 30C and load was 75C.
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/10 15:05:11 (permalink)
Bit the bullet yesterday and bought a 04G-P4-1972-KR....
 
Noise wise it is fine from my perspective - can't hear the blower fan above normal case noise and there is no perceivable coil whine..Running it at stock speeds at the moment - I have a Silverstone ft03-mini case so I have EXTREMELY limited airflow and I really don't want to push things :-)
 
GPU temp at idle is sitting at 29C which is great - Ran heaven benchmark last night and temp was bouncing at the 80C for most of the benchmark..
FPS:71.7
Score:1806
Min FPS:29.5
Max FPS:145.2
 
Overall very happy with the card -  would be nice to be able to get a backplate for it... Cabling and pipes from the H60 AIO are very close to (If not rubbing on) the back of the card... Will just have to keep a look out :-)

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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/10 15:57:19 (permalink)
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Bit the bullet yesterday and bought a 04G-P4-1972-KR....
 
Noise wise it is fine from my perspective - can't hear the blower fan above normal case noise and there is no perceivable coil whine..Running it at stock speeds at the moment - I have a Silverstone ft03-mini case so I have EXTREMELY limited airflow and I really don't want to push things :-)
 
GPU temp at idle is sitting at 29C which is great - Ran heaven benchmark last night and temp was bouncing at the 80C for most of the benchmark..
FPS:71.7
Score:1806
Min FPS:29.5
Max FPS:145.2
 
Overall very happy with the card -  would be nice to be able to get a backplate for it... Cabling and pipes from the H60 AIO are very close to (If not rubbing on) the back of the card... Will just have to keep a look out :-)






What are your settings when running Heaven?
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/10 16:44:55 (permalink)
I can confirm that the noise is not bad at all, only slightly worse than the dual fan open air designs.  Does anyone know if one will be able to flash a Non-SC 1970 version with the 04G-P4-1972-KR bios in the future?  Not sure if there is any physical difference between the cards.  I hope to overclock my regular card non-SC soon.  Any moderate mhz to shoot for? What should I set in precision X?
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 01:54:14 (permalink)
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What are your settings when running Heaven?




Never tried running his before so may bed doing it wrong :-) But setting were:
 
 
Render: Direct3D11
Mode: 1920x1080 4xAA fullscreen
Prese:t Custom
Quality: Ultra
Tessellation: Normal
 
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 02:34:40 (permalink)
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seanrm
 
 
What are your settings when running Heaven?




Never tried running his before so may bed doing it wrong :-) But setting were:
 
 
Render: Direct3D11
Mode: 1920x1080 4xAA fullscreen
Prese:t Custom
Quality: Ultra
Tessellation: Normal
 


 
Thx Bigman.

If you run Heaven using 1080P 8xAA, Ultra Quality, Extreme Tesselation settings, you can compare your score with the contributors over at the techpowerup forums (sorry, I'm not able to add a complete link here).

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/unigine-heaven-4-0-benchmark-scores.198888/
 
 
 
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 11:02:48 (permalink)
I never understood the clocking of the latest cards completely but is it really that weird?
When i do no overclocking and use the default fan profile this card slows itself down all the time.
After 5 minutes into Crysis 3 for example i see a max Power of ~82%, 1.100V and a clock around 1200 but a modest working fan.
Is this not a broken design? I mean that i don't get the default SC clocks without using a custom fan profile feels a bit strange to me.

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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 11:59:40 (permalink)
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I never understood the clocking of the latest cards completely but is it really that weird?
When i do no overclocking and use the default fan profile this card slows itself down all the time.
After 5 minutes into Crysis 3 for example i see a max Power of ~82%, 1.100V and a clock around 1200 but a modest working fan.
Is this not a broken design? I mean that i don't get the default SC clocks without using a custom fan profile feels a bit strange to me.


What temperatures is it hitting?
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 12:02:04 (permalink)
It keeps itself at 79° and the fan is working around 2000 for that.
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 12:05:40 (permalink)
Try increasing the temperature target and see if it still clocks down.
 
Are you using v-sync?
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 12:11:18 (permalink)
Temperature target? I use Afterburner, the evga soft is to buggy here, crashed my TV app when i tried. How to set a different target?
I bet it will work then but i still wonder why under default the fan doesn't speed up to keep the clock at SC speed. I use adaptive vsync mostly.
 
 

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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 12:17:30 (permalink)
Temp limit, it's below Power limit. 
If you are limiting your framerate then that could be causing the clocks to drop.
 
Not sure about your temps. I had the Galax reference card and max temperature was 75C.
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Re: Feedback on GTX 970 Blower Design - Noise, Temps, OC 2014/10/11 12:28:00 (permalink)
I don't limit frames. The 970 in Crysis 3 doesn't reach the full vsync framerate with the settings i test here. I still can't figure out how to set a new temperature target with Afterburner.
-> Found the switch, lol. Testing.

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