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2016/12/06 05:50:26 (permalink)
I noticed something odd, The 5 little white LED's in the middle of the Classified, The 1 on the far left appears to be really dim but as soon as any load is put on the GPU itself it gets really bright again.
 
I've looked around google images and noticed several Classifieds all have a really dim 1st LED, Is this a sort of GPU load indicator or a design flaw ?
 


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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 12:09:10 (permalink)
    Sounds like your gpu may not be getting good clean stable voltage. Those 5 LED's are voltage indicator lights that can help you diagnose voltage problems with your video card. With the gpu fans facing towards you and the power connectors facing up, the LEDs are, from left to right:

    GPU - This indicates if voltage to the video card's GPU is good
    MEM - This indicates if voltage to the video card's memory is good
    PLL - This indicates if the voltage for auxillary components such as fans, LEDs, etc. is good
    3.3V - This indicates if the voltage supplied from the motherboard via PCIe slot is good
    12V - This indicates if the voltage from the 12v input from the power supply is good

    If any of these LED's are not lighting up, it indicates a voltage issue with that component or source.
     
    Note: This it how it was on older gen cards. Pretty sure it's the same for newer gen cards as well.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 17:03:42 (permalink)
    That's been there since I had a GTX 580 Classified, 980ti and 1080 Classy.
     
    If the card runs full load that Left LED will bright up. If it's on idle it Dims down a bit. I had those on my 580 Classy also before and my 980ti Classy.
     
    As Saijin said its an Indicator for your GPU Voltage. I think its also on every Classified Manual. 
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 18:07:12 (permalink)
    InferionThat's been there since I had a ...1080ti.



    A typo ?

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 18:11:52 (permalink)
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    InferionThat's been there since I had a ...1080ti.



    A typo ?


    Yea sorry Typo. Edited.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 21:18:34 (permalink)
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    That's been there since I had a GTX 580 Classified, 980ti and 1080 Classy.
     
    If the card runs full load that Left LED will bright up. If it's on idle it Dims down a bit. I had those on my 580 Classy also before and my 980ti Classy.
     
    As Saijin said its an Indicator for your GPU Voltage. I think its also on every Classified Manual. 




    Awesome thanks for the info, Thought I had to RMA.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:06:46 (permalink)
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    That's been there since I had a GTX 580 Classified, 980ti and 1080 Classy.
     
    If the card runs full load that Left LED will bright up. If it's on idle it Dims down a bit. I had those on my 580 Classy also before and my 980ti Classy.
     
    As Saijin said its an Indicator for your GPU Voltage. I think its also on every Classified Manual. 




    Awesome thanks for the info, Thought I had to RMA.


    The led shouldn't dim at idle conditions. A co-worker of mine had me build him a rig a long time ago with a 780 classified. The gpu led didn't dim down on idle/brighten up when under a load.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:13:15 (permalink)
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    The led shouldn't dim at idle conditions. A co-worker of mine had me build him a rig a long time ago with a 780 classified. The gpu led didn't dim down on idle/brighten up when under a load.



    The LED according to other 1080 Classified owners that I've talked to on another forum dims once the GPU voltage drops to around 0.600v but if you have "Prefer Maximum Performance" selected in the Nvidia control panel the voltage never goes below 0.800v so the LED never dims so your friend either probably never noticed the 1st LED dimming or he had "Prefer Maximum Performance" selected in the Nvidia control panel.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:15:50 (permalink)
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    The led shouldn't dim at idle conditions. A co-worker of mine had me build him a rig a long time ago with a 780 classified. The gpu led didn't dim down on idle/brighten up when under a load.



    The LED according to other 1080 Classified owners that I've talked to on another forum dims once the GPU voltage drops to around 0.600v but if you have "Prefer Maximum Performance" selected in the Nvidia control panel the voltage never goes below 0.800v so the LED never dims so your friend either probably never noticed the 1st LED dimming or he had "Prefer Maximum Performance" selected in the Nvidia control panel.


    I personally setup his computer back then. I remember the led not dimming at idle. I'm going to ask a evga tech to review this thread.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:19:29 (permalink)
    Sajinetup his computer back then. I remember the led not dimming at idle. I'm going to ask a evga tech to review this thread.



    You do that, But if it is a fault then EVGA have a crap load of faulty GPU LED's on their hands because everyone I've talked to who has a Classified has reported the exact same.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:30:05 (permalink)
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    The LED should stay steady under any load. However, any fluctuation of power may cause the LED to dim so it's possible that the power running through the card is not stable. This could be the result of, unfortunately, a faulty LED/card or power supply. I'd suggest trying different PCI-E power connectors from the PSU or another PSU. An alternate suggestion would be to test the card in another computer.


    Thanks for the confirmation Christian. 
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:31:47 (permalink)
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    The LED should stay steady under any load. However, any fluctuation of power may cause the LED to dim so it's possible that the power running through the card is not stable. This could be the result of, unfortunately, a faulty LED/card or power supply. I'd suggest trying different PCI-E power connectors from the PSU or another PSU. An alternate suggestion would be to test the card in another computer.



    Well then you sent out a metric butt ton of faulty GPU's then as everyone who I've spoken to who has Classified GPU's has this same issue when the voltage drops below 0.800v.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:46:26 (permalink)
    Pascal titan x idle voltage results with global power management set to adaptive/prefer maximum performance:
     
    Adaptive: 625mv.
    Max performance: 625mv.
     
    Notes: Restarted the computer after each power mode change.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:49:49 (permalink)
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    Pascal titan x idle voltage results with global power management set to adaptive/prefer maximum performance:
     
    Adaptive: 625mv.
    Max performance: 625mv.
     
    Notes: Restarted the computer after each power mode change.




    Maybe I'm being a bit dumb here but what does a Titan XP which does not have the 5 little white LED's have to do with the Classified ? They are completely different board layouts as well.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/06 23:52:33 (permalink)
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    Pascal titan x idle voltage results with global power management set to adaptive/prefer maximum performance:
     
    Adaptive: 625mv.
    Max performance: 625mv.
     
    Notes: Restarted the computer after each power mode change.




    Maybe I'm being a bit dumb here but what does a Titan XP which does not have the 5 little white LED's have to do with the Classified ? They are completely different board layouts as well.


    I did the test to show that prefer max performance doesn't affect the idle voltages.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:01:14 (permalink)
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    I did the test to show that prefer max performance doesn't affect the idle voltages.




    You have to remember that the Titan XP is GP102 and not the same GPU as the 1080 i.e GP104, Completely different dies.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:04:24 (permalink)
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    I did the test to show that prefer max performance doesn't affect the idle voltages.




    You have to remember that the Titan XP is GP102 and not the same GPU as the 1080 i.e GP104, Completely different dies.


    You're correct, however, I don't see the nvidia driver forcing 800mv on only a 1080 gpu. If the prefer maximum performance option affected idle voltages I would have seen a change on my end.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:10:33 (permalink)
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    You're correct, however, I don't see the nvidia driver forcing 800mv on only a 1080 gpu. If the prefer maximum performance option affected idle voltages I would have seen a change on my end.



    The PMP option also ups core clock, Mine stays at 1700 when this option is enabled so maybe this could explain the 0.800 v instead of 0.600 at idle ?
     
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:15:15 (permalink)
    That's interesting. Looks like we found another driver bug that affects 1080 gpu's. Do you see the same readings using msi afterburner? Make sure you have all 3d accelerated apps closed when taking a reading.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:19:20 (permalink)
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    That's interesting. Looks like we found another driver bug that affects 1080 gpu's. Do you see the same readings using msi afterburner? Make sure you have all 3d accelerated apps closed when taking a reading.



    Yep it's in Afterburner too, No other programs open :)
     
     
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:20:40 (permalink)
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    That's interesting. Looks like we found another driver bug that affects 1080 gpu's. Do you see the same readings using msi afterburner? Make sure you have all 3d accelerated apps closed when taking a reading.



    Yep it's in Afterburner too, No other programs open :)


    Make sure 2d apps are closed too.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:21:38 (permalink)
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    Make sure 2d apps are closed too.




    Everything was closed minus Afterburner or PX.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:23:00 (permalink)
    Just got this reply from someone on another forum about his 1080 with PMP enabled - 
     
    my Evga 0.8930 v at idle clock

    strangely my idle overclocked volts are less? @ 0.8500 v


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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:23:41 (permalink)
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    Make sure 2d apps are closed too.




    Everything was closed minus Afterburner or PX.


    Do you get the same results even after rebooting your computer? How about after performing a clean boot (#1) of windows?
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:46:45 (permalink)
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    Do you get the same results even after rebooting your computer? How about after performing a clean boot (#1) of windows?




    Ok just did the clean boot and it appears that Corsair CUE and Link are causing the high idle clocks and volts, Without them they go down to what you posted earlier, Nice 1 for posting that guide link BTW.
     
    Would still like get to the bottom of this LED issue as lots of people have the same issue when going below 0.800v that the 1st LED gets a little dim.
     

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:48:55 (permalink)
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    Do you get the same results even after rebooting your computer? How about after performing a clean boot (#1) of windows?




    Ok just did the clean boot and it appears that Corsair CUE and Link are causing the high idle clocks and volts, Without them they go down to what you posted earlier, Nice 1 for posting that guide link BTW.
     
    Would still like get to the bottom of this LED issue as lots of people have the same issue when going below 0.800v that the 1st LED gets a little dim.
     


    Glad to hear that. 
     
    Guess it's time to try some of Christian's suggestions.
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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 00:55:57 (permalink)
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    Glad to hear that. 
     Guess it's time to try some of Christian's suggestions.



    I've already tried the card in a different rig and the 1st LED always goes slightly dim exactly when the GPU voltage drops to 0.625v, 2 workmates of mine both have 1080 Classifieds and they've reported the same thing, Also seen it on various forums and even on a youtube vid of some guy demo'ing the RGB functionality.
     
    Either it's a faulty batch of a metric butt ton of Classifieds or it really is just a function of the card.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 03:02:51 (permalink)
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    That's been there since I had a GTX 580 Classified, 980ti and 1080 Classy.
     
    If the card runs full load that Left LED will bright up. If it's on idle it Dims down a bit. I had those on my 580 Classy also before and my 980ti Classy.
     
    As Saijin said its an Indicator for your GPU Voltage. I think its also on every Classified Manual. 




    Awesome thanks for the info, Thought I had to RMA.


    The led shouldn't dim at idle conditions. A co-worker of mine had me build him a rig a long time ago with a 780 classified. The gpu led didn't dim down on idle/brighten up when under a load.


    Welp, Saijin is Right Tested again my 980ti Classy it didn't dim down. But my 2 old 580 Classy does and my current 1080 Classy. Hmm such a weird LED. Waiting for more info about this then.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 03:25:20 (permalink)
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    Welp, Saijin is Right Tested again my 980ti Classy it didn't dim down. But my 2 old 580 Classy does and my current 1080 Classy. Hmm such a weird LED. Waiting for more info about this then.



    Could be a 1080 Classified issue then or maybe an actual feature because I know of quite a few people with 1080 Classifieds and all have reported the same.

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    Re: Faulty 1080 Classified 5 x White LED's ? 2016/12/07 03:37:54 (permalink)
    I also know 2 people who say their Classified 1080  led light is dimmer until a load is put on the card from gaming or benching...... , using POCX
     
     
    running either  adaptive or prefer max perf in driver controls , doesn't matter

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