I don't know
 
here we have people complaining about people who post little to reduce clutter, but are posting relevant material about technology.
 
What you could wind up getting is useless nonsense with each posted link , which could be far worse
 
[here's my link]
httx:\mynews.com
 
[here's my useless nonsense]
the sky is blue and here is news
 
he could even post on a separate article but the link leads to a different story...
 
and if you wish you could even post troll opinions from other sites
(that is news and subsequent opine reposted or linked)
 
you ask me just posting a link is fine
if it's relevant people will read and chime in
 
it's simple - no confusion
 
the snippet issue is a problem - some news topics on some website are only 1 paragraph - so if you take it or a large portion of it that explains it you violate Copyright law (because it's a significant portion).
 
and media companies - fair use- look at the lawsuits and take down notices -1M per month on google - it's only gonna get worse - a heck of a lot of fair use is getting taken down
 
if you take less from the article people will go ?? what's it about
it's a real conundrum
 
and people opines - sometimes they are great - some times I prefer no one spin a story or leave it to simmer and see how people feel before I like to chime in
 
I mean you don't have to read it...it's not offensive because there is no opinion
some can be asinine and stupid..so it definitely better than some troll or crazy thought or idea or reasoning
 
last thing I need is some incorrect opine - to make me miss a great link (because of the posting with the link)
 
here we are complaining about something good - NEWS and how it's posted  while useless drivel is abound in the general section, which I find completely worthless and annoying at times
like "brony thread ...and subsequent additional brony threads"
 
not that im a brony hater - just that I find the topic useless
 
ok..I can deal with 1 and avoid it if I wish - but have to be bowled over with more competing troll threads
 
 
it's up to YOU to "READ THE LINKS"  - not US to "POST THE CONTENT" (which could be a problem with copyright)
 
Id rather have honest original news content that some opine which is completely different or wrong/incorrect or spun by the poster (to heat the discussion)
 
And Id rather have the link posted without comments or chatter than miss the link or news item entirely
 
 
Now if EVGA wants to stick it's head out on fair use on news articles(subsequent takedown and lawyers and appeals on removal) . I'll post more of the article
 
Id rather keep it nice neat and avoid issues for EVGA

if you took the time to read the article and found it post worthy, you should have 5 more seconds to comment on it. something, anything on the subject. ie "*link* here is an article about *topic*"

Technically, Gen. Discussion is a forum "for everything else."
 
Generally, a link and a snippet isn't a problem for copyright.  If the entire article is a paragraph long, then there may be an issue.  Most of the problems we've seen on the mod end comes down to (article but no link) or (link and entire article).  If a member posts way too much of an article, but leaves a link, mods can typically prune it down so that it doesn't run into that issue.  There are some exceptions when we remove content due to NDA reasons or other TOS prohibited content, but not usually due to copyright on the article itself.
 
Personally, I am more of the opinion that it is a posting style issue, more than a function issue.  There is no doubt that a link with commentary from the OP will increase reads and discussion.  While some may choose not to read an OP with just a link, I don't see how that harms the forums or members.  If members want to take extra time to potentially increase viewership and comments, I believe that is up to the OP.  It does not harm the forum otherwise.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-Sets-Home-on-Fire-While-Trying-to-Kill-Bed-Bugs-211131491.html?dr

shaneisme

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-Sets-Home-on-Fire-While-Trying-to-Kill-Bed-Bugs-211131491.html?dr

off topic post mods punish the troll!

shaneisme

wrinvert

shaneisme

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-Sets-Home-on-Fire-While-Trying-to-Kill-Bed-Bugs-211131491.html?dr

off topic post mods punish the troll!

It's exactly on topic. My point is you can get what you need from the title, link, et al. If I put something like "This is funny.", or "What an idiot." after the URL, I wouldn't be bringing anything to the discussion, I just wanted to share.

Why do we want to impose more limitations and rules? Especially ones as frivolous as this. What if I just wanted people to check it out?

You don't have to click on any topic or read it. If you know someone always posts links and it really pisses you off (look at yourself in the mirror a long time please while you're at it) perhaps don't click and / or ignore the user or section.

well shane way to take a joke and get insulting about it. I find when blocking people its closing yourself to other peoples opinions and at that point you are no longer keeping an open mind. also i'm not going to block a whole section because of 1 person, there might be something worth while to me at some point that I would miss out on. but hey if I've pissed you off in the past(which from your post it looks like I have) please feel free to take you own advice and block me.
 
my point is not all links are titles like that, so yeah point failed. need an example go look at RJ's latest thread http://forums.evga.com/fb.ashx?m=1954777 does his link offer anything about the article? NO! i'm not saying make it a rule or part of TOS, im saying its just bad forum etiquette.

Hey... Both of uz... Snock it oof before I pull over this forum... 

shaneisme
You're reading too much into my words, sensitive much?

It's bad forum etiquette in your opinion, I find nothing wrong with it.

so what is your answer to links like the example of RJ's post? offer something helpful up here...

wrinvert

shaneisme
You're reading too much into my words, sensitive much?

It's bad forum etiquette in your opinion, I find nothing wrong with it.

so what is your answer to links like the example of RJ's post? offer something helpful up here...

In the example you posted, RJ included the content and context of the link in his title.  That's fine, IMO.  At the very least, the title of the thread should refer to the content being posted.  I have more of a problem when people start threads with ambiguous titles which do not match links, or post links going to content completely different than the title would suggest.  Doesn't mean it always is a problem, but it can be.  Rickrolls are a little different, and when it happens once or twice a year, I'll chuckle a bit.  More than that and....let's just not go there.

Brad no one here, not even myself, post more than a few news related stories daily.
 

Brad_Hawthorne

So, if I start link crapping 25 games and news posts a day you would have no problem with that? Just clarifying? If so, I'll get right on that for the next month and see how that works out for you guys. I'll use the same posting format that has been complained about and post on topic links. I'd normally post some relevant opinion along with the links but I don't have time to. Just clarifying that is ok, since it seems it has been confirmed already that it is.

As far as I am concerned things with the status quo are just fine and I don't see a reason to change anything.

Brad_Hawthorne

So, if I start link crapping 25 games and news posts a day you would have no problem with that? Just clarifying? If so, I'll get right on that for the next month and see how that works out for you guys. I'll use the same posting format that has been complained about and post on topic links. I'd normally post some relevant opinion along with the links but I don't have time to. Just clarifying that is ok, since it seems it has been confirmed already that it is. I propose all that have problems with the link crapping also participate. As it's within the forum guidelines and not an infraction in anyway, it's all ok. I propose I can show you why it's a problem.

 
Good Lord TigerRabbit...  Why?  It's folks like you (the few)  that want to ruin it for the many...  Get a job I guess...  or maybe a coloring book?  Whatever you need...

rjohnson11

If it were a problem we would have numerous complaints or tickets and we don't. So no problem.

Brad_Hawthorne

rjohnson11

As far as I am concerned things with the status quo are just fine and I don't see a reason to change anything.

You're too close to the problem to see it.

You can't do tickets on mods. You know that. The report button isn't even there.
 
Aren't there "numerous" complaints in this thread? 

Brad_Hawthorne

rjohnson11

If it were a problem we would have numerous complaints or tickets and we don't. So no problem.

Brad_Hawthorne

rjohnson11

As far as I am concerned things with the status quo are just fine and I don't see a reason to change anything.

You're too close to the problem to see it.

You can't do tickets on mods. You know that. The report button isn't even there.

Aren't there "numerous" complaints in this thread? 

So, is the issue that only mods do this?  Otherwise, you should have plenty of opportunity to ticket members engaging in the same behavior.  Likewise, you can always send a PM or email to a mod or Rob about this.  But I know that's not your point.
 
Yes, we have a handful of members complaining now.  The question is still more of whether this is an issue that significantly affects the forums, or whether members are complaining of a subjective preference for how threads should look.  I'm not dismissing the latter as something EVGA doesn't care about, but this is also the first time I've heard members complain about how members post news threads.  That does not mean that we cannot do something to see about changing how members post, but given how long the forums have been running this way, I'm unlikely to throw support behind any new mandatory posting requirements outside of the Marketplace.

Just because the forums has been running this way for a long time doesn't mean jack. Over time you find stuff that needs changed.
 
Hotdeals sections evga made a "frivolous" rule making members post newegg and tigerdirect links only in the sticky posts made for them. Did we always have that rule, no we didn't. Someone suggested the change to improve that section.