canerseker
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Hello What is the GTX 970 FTW reference edition ? FTW and FTW Reference VRM's, Cooler are the same ? Its only reference clocked or what ?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/12 03:54:10
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/12 04:45:39
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As far as I'm aware there is no "Reference" version of the 970 FTW Normally "Reference" refers to the pcb and cooler (more the cooler sometimes) And FTW editions normally have non reference pcb and in the case of the 970 the FTW has non reference cooler too.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/12 04:58:31
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/12 05:02:43
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It's indicated as "REF" on card's box and couldn't see any "FTW" on it. Edit: I couldn't add Amazon's link here, it's restricted I think. (selamlar )
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/12 05:24:08
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Interesting LOL Perhaps a word from one of the techs on this one. My guess is that is a first edition (lower model number 2977 vs 2978) and that it has the reference pcb seeing it clearly is ACX 2.0 cooler Ideal perhaps for people wanting to change the cooler for water ect. But it is certainly not listed on EVGA's site or on the article page.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/12 05:34:05
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there is something wrong with the description on Amazon. the 04G-P4-2977-KR is not an FTW model at all, it's a SC ACX 2.0. http://www.evga.com/Produ...4235-AE73-2FA6CC4A72CC as I said above there are no 2 version of the FTW but only one, the 04G-P4-2978-KR. edit: you need some more posts to be able to include links.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 08:16:54
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The 970 FTW Reference edition is the same hardware as the normal FTW, but with lower clock speeds.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 15:35:25
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This was the same thing with the 780ti Classified and K|ngp|n Reference. All the parts are the same, but the gpu couldn't maintain the required base overclock from the factory, so they lowered and sold it branded the Reference Edition. You get all of the high grade components, but the guarantee for the factory clock is the only change.
As Jacob stated, that may have an effect on overclocking ability, but it also may not.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 16:20:21
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Jaeson are you sure? The FTW has a better heatsink.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 21:06:52
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that's my question as well, what does "physically it's the same as the FTW" exactly mean? I never saw the 04G-P4-2977-KR listed anywhere except on Amazon. perfect customer confusion, IMO.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 21:22:13
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sahafiec that's my question as well, what does "physically it's the same as the FTW" exactly mean?
The PCB & Cooler are exactly the same. The only difference is the clock speed. The FTW can run a bit higher voltage too (1.215+ voltage boost) and has double BIOS. Link.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 21:31:28
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according to the data sheet EVGATech_JaesonW posted the Reference can do the higher voltage as well and is even "Triple BIOS Ready". so the only difference is Base Clock: 1165MHz vs. Base Clock: 1216MHz ?
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 21:38:37
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sahafiec according to the data sheet EVGATech_JaesonW posted the Reference can do the higher voltage as well and is even "Triple BIOS Ready". so the only difference is Base Clock: 1165MHz vs. Base Clock: 1216MHz ?
Yep, the only difference is the base and boost clocks.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 21:42:33
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so why then doesn't EVGA list this card in the online shop?!
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 22:06:03
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Don't forget, the QueenP|n (K|ngp|n Reference) was listed on NewEgg for nearly a Month before it showed up on the EVGA store.. There was a lot of frustration and asking what it was just to get the answer that is was a lower clocked card was all.
This is no different.
The Ti Classified Reference also showed up on NewEgg before it finally made it onto the EVGA.
This is no different.
It took me the to finally get an answer last time, because they didn't even list it as a Reference edition. They just labeled the same and changed the part numbers from 3888 and 2888 to 3887 and 2887 respectively.
This is a HUGE difference. The answer is right there, as they actually labeled it the reference edition this time.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 22:09:18
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Because 04G-P4-2977-KR & 04G-P4-2974-KR are pretty much the same card.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/13 22:12:04
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well there is only 1$ price difference between the two cards on Amazon, the FTW beeing sold out though.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2014/11/14 05:41:13
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The FTW has a better heatsink than the other EVGA 970 card's. It also I believe has a better voltage controller.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2015/02/15 17:53:58
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Hello, the EVGA GTX 970 ACX 2.0 FTW Ref (04G-P4-2977-KR) has 2 fans on it. When the fans start making noise, how hard is it to take apart the heatsink, remove and grease the fans? For these sleeve-type fans, they usually start making noise within a year of heavy use. Why does Amazon sell the above card for $370 and a GTX 970 SC (superclocked) ACX 2.0 (04G-P4-2974-KR) for only $343? In reality, all the listed speeds are exactly the same: "Base Clock: 1165 MHZ. Boost Clock: 1317 MHz. Memory Clock: 7010 MHz Effectiv." I verified this with Newegg: EVGA 04G-P4-2974-KR GeForce GTX 970 4GB. Newegg also lists the 2974 for only $347. Why does the 2977 cost $17 more than the 2974 on Amazon and $13 more than on Newegg? There is a slight difference with the covers but that's all I can see. For customers who have these cards after their warranties expire, EVGA should really create a YouTube video to show customers how to take apart these cards and grease the 2 fans. Of course, EVGA could post a warning that the procedure would void any in-force warranty. Perhaps someone could do this? Thanks.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 Reference Edition 4GB
2015/02/16 20:14:42
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FTW is different from other 970's. Ek is releasing a water block for this card.
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