bill1024

kaninja
Make villains of police? lol no, there is quite a large lot of them that are doing an amazing job of being villains all on their own.

Yeah sure there are.
Maybe if people would behave themselves, we would not need police at all.
Gee, what a thought huh.

bill1024
I posted early in this thread "He has the right to say ..."
Really he does not have the right to free speech in this case. Free speech is for a person to say what they want in public and that the government can not stop you. (in most cases)
You have the right to free speech, you do not have the right to be heard.
When you are on other people property, as he was, the property owner has the right to limit your speech any way they see fit.
He is under contract and there are clauses for behavior on and off company time.
I do not have the right to go on a profanity laced tirade on this forum. if I do a mod will edit my post.
If I do it over and over I could be banned from this forum. I do not have a right to free speech here.
He has no right to act like an ass and be disrespectful in any way on private property on company time.
The fans booed him good, so it shows the public thinks he is wrong too, and acting outside of proper expected behavior.
 
A flag may just be a flag to some people, to others that is the flag that draped the coffins of our loved one who did not come home alive.
Those flags mean a lot to us. Those flags are on display where we see them every day to remember the ones we love, the ones we lost.
They gave their lives so we can be free. So we can say what we want to our government, to protest or assemble in a lawful way.
Freedom is not free. In fact it costs a lot. Much more than most people will ever know.

Brad_Hawthorne
It's confirmation bias. You'll always find examples to back up an opinion on the internet, because -- well no one agrees about anything on the internet.

candle_86

Chaos_21
I will start by saying violence against law enforcement is unacceptable.
But discrimination against black people and minorities is still a real issue and their voices need to be heard.
I commend Colin Kaepernick for his stand against racial injustice in America.
The fight for equality and equal opportunity is a noble cause.
And peaceful protest is the correct way to invoke change. 
+1   

Wow really, I'm a White Christian Man.
 
I can't get housing assistance, I couldn't get food stamps even when I qualified, I can't get a high risk loan, I can't really get much of anything, while the minorities get them. I got passed over for a Job because they needed a minority, I eventually got hired later and the guy they went with was incompetent, I worked with him for awhile before he got fired. Want to see discrimination be a White christian straight male.

kaninja

candle_86
Want to see discrimination be a White christian straight male.

Really?

Your sarcasm is legendary.

kaninja
Well that must be a new thing lol. I lived in the U.S. 14 years ago and there was definitely extreme racism, bigotry, oppression towards minorities. I am white and every door of opportunity I was easily able to walk through.

It can't be that bad.....I mean of the top 30 richest people in the U.S. I think they are all white and something like 1.2 of the top 1.3 million households in NET worth are white.

IF somehow white people are now the most oppressed, disadvantaged, and discrimiated against group in the U.S. today then I guess either things have done a complete 180° or your single point of data isn't enough to get a complete picture of reality.

kaninja
I don't disagree things are messy.

I haven't heard of this white discrimination you speak of from my cousins in Montana, my in-laws in Colorado, or work associates in Vegas and Phoenix. Maybe they are afraid to talk about it though for fear of being murdered for being white.

There is a resentment towards white people from black people. No doubt. You and I being white cannot understand it.....no matter how hard we try, really we cannot.

The U.S. is the superpower it is today thanks to slavery. The extreme wealth generated from the cotton trade financed the U.S. industrial revolution. A lot of OLD money that some of the top long standing families still have is from Slavery. Some modern-day institutions like the Bank of America have roots in slavery and their existance today is because of it.

Not all whie people are descendants from slave owners.....in fact very few are. The same can be said for black people in America...not all are decendants of slaves.

You must admit though. Just because slavery, segregation, and open flagrant oppression is over doesn't mean all is good.

I look at how we treated First Nations people in Canada. Took their land, broke treaties, killed them, stole their children and forced them into schools to strip them of their heritage, language, and any connection to their parents.

When that was shown to be a total failure we put them on reservations, gave them semi-self rule, rubbed our hands together and said all fixed.

It isn't fixed and won't be for a long time.

When a black man in America can peacefully protest without people screaming he should leave the country.......that would be a start.

kaninja
Wow. That is a colorful family history Candle!

kaninja
Protesting is not a joke. Furthest thing from a joke. Doing nothing would be a cop out. Turning a blind eye is a cop out. Doing something that has the effect of millions of people at least having the discussion......well seems it did something.