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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/26 05:51:41 (permalink)
It actually came early. Got it installed and tweaked.  No dead pixels and doing a black screen test for light bleed almost NONE.
 
Gaming wise I am playing Mech Warrior Online and i cranked the in game resolution to max. Even in the midst of a murderball frame rates never dropped below 60.  Did some future mark testing then fired up Witcher 2.
 
Even my wife who thinks the whole computer e-peen thing is a laugh is impressed.
 
Well worth the 800 bucks.
 
I then as a joke showed her the new 34 inch that is slated for september release.  She just glared at me :P
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/26 08:05:31 (permalink)
Yeah, my wife is cool with things but you can easily push too far.  So what was your frame rate with Witcher 2?  Also @ 60?

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/26 08:07:45 (permalink)
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It actually came early. Got it installed and tweaked.  No dead pixels and doing a black screen test for light bleed almost NONE.
 
Gaming wise I am playing Mech Warrior Online and i cranked the in game resolution to max. Even in the midst of a murderball frame rates never dropped below 60.  Did some future mark testing then fired up Witcher 2.
 
Even my wife who thinks the whole computer e-peen thing is a laugh is impressed.
 
Well worth the 800 bucks.
 
I then as a joke showed her the new 34 inch that is slated for september release.  She just glared at me :P




And which monitor did you get?  I'm starting to get confused.

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/26 08:44:25 (permalink)
I am beyond confused. 1080p 144 gsync is what I thought you were getting... Did you go 4k gsync with 60hz? Or did you go ROG /Acer 1440?

I have connected the ROG Swift and I must say it is amazing.
post edited by Scarlet-Tech - 2015/04/26 08:46:39
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/26 09:26:29 (permalink)
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I am beyond confused. 1080p 144 gsync is what I thought you were getting... Did you go 4k gsync with 60hz? Or did you go ROG /Acer 1440?

I have connected the ROG Swift and I must say it is amazing.



Stalin was the original decision maker.  I think Sawyer got the 4K?
 
Are you pleased with the colors on the Swift?  That, after having an IPS, is still a concern for me.  And I do love the 21:9 format.  I'm just not sure if I will have much of a difference on a 75Hz monitor if I get that Predator.  If you turn off G-sync, do you think the refresh rate is your bigger gain?  Or the G-sync?  Or is it very much the combination of the two?

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/26 11:28:46 (permalink)
I turn gsync off for counter strike, because it far exceeds 144hz,but with everything else, I let it go with gsync on, and the results are awesome. There is quite a huge difference in game play.

As with TN vs IPS, straight on, I really love the ROG. If I stand up and look down on it, it looks terrible. I don't normally stand up while facing, so that would be the only time it affects me.
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/26 15:41:33 (permalink)
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I turn gsync off for counter strike, because it far exceeds 144hz,but with everything else, I let it go with gsync on, and the results are awesome. There is quite a huge difference in game play.

As with TN vs IPS, straight on, I really love the ROG. If I stand up and look down on it, it looks terrible. I don't normally stand up while facing, so that would be the only time it affects me.

Then it sounds like 144hz is a big deal and G-sync is a big deal.  I'm still leaning towards the Predator even @ 75hz because I get everything but the high refresh rate.  I will be happy and still won't know what I'm missing with 144hz unless Stalin comes back with an 'OMG how did I ever live without this 144hz!' kind of comment.  Most of my online gaming for shooters I do on one of my consoles (as that is what friends play on) anyway.
 
EDIT:  And I sit in front of the monitor as well as far as shift.  I just noticed a big difference in color reproduction with my first IPS.  I don't know if I could go back to TN color, though I've never seen the 8 bit color on the ROG.
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/27 04:09:52 (permalink)
I decided to stick with 1080p. I was content with it then, good for it now, only at 144hz this time. I'll get the 3440x1440 with gsync and buy it with 2 980ti's when they come out. Have to save up!

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/27 05:48:54 (permalink)
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I decided to stick with 1080p. I was content with it then, good for it now, only at 144hz this time. I'll get the 3440x1440 with gsync and buy it with 2 980ti's when they come out. Have to save up!




Just be sure to run it 144Hz with and without G-sync on different games.  I really want to know if you think the refresh rate is that phenomenal in and of itself.

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/27 06:59:45 (permalink)
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I decided to stick with 1080p. I was content with it then, good for it now, only at 144hz this time. I'll get the 3440x1440 with gsync and buy it with 2 980ti's when they come out. Have to save up!




Just be sure to run it 144Hz with and without G-sync on different games.  I really want to know if you think the refresh rate is that phenomenal in and of itself.


Yeah, that's exactly why i purhcased it, to get that experience. But even still, I also needed a new monitor coming from a monitor a 6 year old 1080p, locked at 60fps. I'll let you know!

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 04:38:57 (permalink)
Coercion, THis is going to be a slow ass day. lol. monitor comes in today!

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 05:09:46 (permalink)
So true!  At least it is that day now for you.
 
I had the Acer XB270HU in my cart several times yesterday but never hit the purchase key.  I'm really starting to want to try to 144Hz.  But that Acer Predator 21:9 checks off more boxes other than being 75Hz.  Aaaaaaaaaaargh!

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 10:27:31 (permalink)
I have that Acer and 144Hz is legit awesome for fps games.  I thought it was going to be not-much-difference from 85Hz, but everything is so much smoother it feels like the entire game is slowed down and everyone is easier to track and hit.  KDR went up a noticeable amount.
 
IPS is really the only way to fly.  Much easier to color calibrate and viewing angles are better.
 
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 12:16:09 (permalink)
144hz really is the way to go no doubt. Although i have a swift monitor so not ips but it's butter smooth in conjuction with gsync. I can safely assume that anybody upgrading from 60hz to 120/144hz will feel it instantly.
 
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 14:37:24 (permalink)
YES. get 144hz! Everything is better, pixels, FPS, refresh rate, everything is more clear, everything is brighter, and fast as @#$% lol.

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 14:49:27 (permalink)
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YES. get 144hz! Everything is better, pixels, FPS, refresh rate, everything is more clear, everything is brighter, and fast as @#$% lol.




So it came, I take it.
 
So even if I don't usually play FPS games against others, it sounds like I really need to try this.  I will see if I can make myself push the buy button this evening.

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 14:51:31 (permalink)
Temper your expectations though about panel quality v. $.  It's an Acer panel so the quality isn't amazing.  Glossy plastic sucks on a monitor.  Also there's liable to be a few flaws in the anti glare coating and it seems some people are getting dead pixel screens (I didn't get one with this problem).  The backlight also bleeds a lot on everyone's screen in the bottom right corner.  You're buying the 144Hz and GSync, so don't expect the same quality as an $800 60 Hz IPS.

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 15:51:21 (permalink)
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YES. get 144hz! Everything is better, pixels, FPS, refresh rate, everything is more clear, everything is brighter, and fast as @#$% lol.




So it came, I take it.
 
So even if I don't usually play FPS games against others, it sounds like I really need to try this.  I will see if I can make myself push the buy button this evening.


I wouldn't say that a 144fps monitor is just for "first person shooters", I would disagree. You can use it for all types. I even tested Batman Originins, and shadows of mordor. they were both amazing, and especially with the combo techniques. it was amazing .

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 16:07:14 (permalink)
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1440, by far. Why fake a higher resolution when you can actually have it?

Absolutely love my x1440 monitor,1080 gaming is dead to me.

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 16:09:54 (permalink)
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1440, by far. Why fake a higher resolution when you can actually have it?

Absolutely love my x1440 monitor,1080 gaming is dead to me.

Fact! Same here. I have a 1080/120hz next to the ROG Swift, and don't even like moving chrome over to it anymore.
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 16:59:48 (permalink)
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Temper your expectations though about panel quality v. $.  It's an Acer panel so the quality isn't amazing.  Glossy plastic sucks on a monitor.  Also there's liable to be a few flaws in the anti glare coating and it seems some people are getting dead pixel screens (I didn't get one with this problem).  The backlight also bleeds a lot on everyone's screen in the bottom right corner.  You're buying the 144Hz and GSync, so don't expect the same quality as an $800 60 Hz IPS.


Looks fine to me....(shrug)
 
 
Personally, 60 hz is way to slow, even if it is an IPS. IPS honestly too overrated right now. When IPS comes out with 144hz, then I'll consider.
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 18:13:24 (permalink)
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YES. get 144hz! Everything is better, pixels, FPS, refresh rate, everything is more clear, everything is brighter, and fast as @#$% lol.




So it came, I take it.
 
So even if I don't usually play FPS games against others, it sounds like I really need to try this.  I will see if I can make myself push the buy button this evening.


I wouldn't say that a 144fps monitor is just for "first person shooters", I would disagree. You can use it for all types. I even tested Batman Originins, and shadows of mordor. they were both amazing, and especially with the combo techniques. it was amazing .




That is just usually the 'argument' that I hear being best for FPS type games.

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 18:15:38 (permalink)
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Temper your expectations though about panel quality v. $.  It's an Acer panel so the quality isn't amazing.  Glossy plastic sucks on a monitor.  Also there's liable to be a few flaws in the anti glare coating and it seems some people are getting dead pixel screens (I didn't get one with this problem).  The backlight also bleeds a lot on everyone's screen in the bottom right corner.  You're buying the 144Hz and GSync, so don't expect the same quality as an $800 60 Hz IPS.


Looks fine to me....(shrug)
 
 
Personally, 60 hz is way to slow, even if it is an IPS. IPS honestly too overrated right now. When IPS comes out with 144hz, then I'll consider.




The Acer XB270HU is 144Hz, G-sync, 1440p and IPS.  It's sort of the ROG Swift with IPS...

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 18:26:26 (permalink)
 I'm facing the same dilemma as i just don't get pushing for g-sync and 144hz as well? From all reading on g-sync it helps for frame rates
at say 40-55fps to get them looking as smooth as 60fps.
 
 And should'nt 4K/60 with g-sync seem as smooth as 1440/144?
 
 I'm thinking eithier:
 
 1) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009658&cm_re=acer_gsync-_-24-009-658-_-Product
 
or 
 
 2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009742&cm_re=acer_gsync-_-24-009-742-_-Product
 
 #1 is 4K/60 and #2 is 1440p/144
 
 Also the 4K has the lower response time of 1ms.
 
 I'd opt for the 1440/144 but i'm not sure if g-sync is worth it in frame rates over 60+, let alone over 100/120..ect
 
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 btw: I'm running a single Titan-X as i don't like to have sli issues and my main game is GTA:V as i mod alot, and i know
with dsr for 4K, i'm getting 40-50fps(maxed all but fsaa). In 1440(dsr) i'm getting 80-140fps or so.
 
 
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 18:44:15 (permalink)
Hey
 
sincerely i think 4k monitors are useless right now. Even with a titan x you would stuggle in many games and would have to drop some settings in favor or fluidity. People should get a 2k monitor (1440p) and wait 5years then get a 4k. I think it's too soon for gpus to handle 4k, they're not quite there yet.
 
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 18:51:18 (permalink)
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Hey
 
sincerely i think 4k monitors are useless right now. Even with a titan x you would stuggle in many games and would have to drop some settings in favor or fluidity. People should get a 2k monitor (1440p) and wait 5years then get a 4k. I think it's too soon for gpus to handle 4k, they're not quite there yet.
 
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Oh i agree, such as games like Crysis 3 and BF4 and other heavy graphic engine games, a single gpu(Titan-X) is still too weak.
 
But for games like GTA:V, 40+fps is a given in 4K, and with g-sync that should make it seem as smooth as 60fps..i guess?
 
And if i opt for the Acer 1440p model, i don't want to look back in 2 years and regret not getting a 4K, when a single fastest gpu can handle 4K/60 in most games.
 
I'm just confused how smooth g-sync is and if it matters for 60fps or higher?  
 
If g-sync is so smooth, then what's the purpose of higher then 60fps?
 
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 18:51:24 (permalink)
I made the comment to Stalin that if he felt he had made a decision, go for it.  I guess I still haven't made one.  I need to actually test out a 144Hz, I think.  I have premier on Newegg and that Acer is a premier eligible item.  I just hate to return something because I didn't like it.  Why couldn't the upcoming Acer Predator be more than 75Hz!  I'm pretty sure it has the same panel as the Dell U3415W.  That panel also runs at 75Hz as recognized.  I was strongly considering it before the Predator was announced (though it doesn't have G-sync).   I've said it several times already, I know, but I really like the vibrant colors.  If I was just doing fast paced shooters, that wouldn't matter as much.
 
With the Titan, I felt good about my decision regardless of a Ti potentially coming soon.  I don't feel as good about the monitor yet.  Sigh.

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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 18:55:35 (permalink)
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sincerely i think 4k monitors are useless right now. Even with a titan x you would stuggle in many games and would have to drop some settings in favor or fluidity. People should get a 2k monitor (1440p) and wait 5years then get a 4k. I think it's too soon for gpus to handle 4k, they're not quite there yet.
 
Max




Oh i agree, such as games like Crysis 3 and BF4 and other heavy graphic engine games, a single gpu(Titan-X) is still too weak.
 
But for games like GTA:V, 40+fps is a given in 4K, and with g-sync that should make it seem as smooth as 60fps..i guess?
 
And if i opt for the Acer 1440p model, i don't want to look back in 2 years and regret not getting a 4K, when a single fastest gpu can handle 4K/60 in most games.
 
I'm just confused how smooth g-sync is and if it matters for 60fps or higher?  
 
If g-sync is so smooth, then what's the purpose of higher then 60fps?
 




Hey,
 
I own a titan x and i'm playing in 1440p not all the way maxed out (no msaa and shadows to soft because i like the look) and i'm dipping in the 40-50's. So 4k IS NOT a given in GTAV. G-sync really shines when you can use a 144hz setting. If you monitor is 60hz, imo there wouldn't be much difference with ou without gsync besides the fact that gsync would remove the tears (but i'd get it anyway). It's a matter of preference. When i use a 144hz setting and drop to 50-60fps it's still uber smooth and no tears so this is where it shines.
 
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 18:56:39 (permalink)
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I made the comment to Stalin that if he felt he had made a decision, go for it.  I guess I still haven't made one.  I need to actually test out a 144Hz, I think.  I have premier on Newegg and that Acer is a premier eligible item.  I just hate to return something because I didn't like it.  Why couldn't the upcoming Acer Predator be more than 75Hz!  I'm pretty sure it has the same panel as the Dell U3415W.  That panel also runs at 75Hz as recognized.  I was strongly considering it before the Predator was announced (though it doesn't have G-sync).   I've said it several times already, I know, but I really like the vibrant colors.  If I was just doing fast paced shooters, that wouldn't matter as much.
 
With the Titan, I felt good about my decision regardless of a Ti potentially coming soon.  I don't feel as good about the monitor yet.  Sigh.




Hey 
 
Then do not order yet, it would be a bad call :)
 
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Re: 2560x1440p /w GSYNC or 1920x1080 /w GSYNC using DSR? 2015/04/28 19:05:24 (permalink)
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Hey
 
sincerely i think 4k monitors are useless right now. Even with a titan x you would stuggle in many games and would have to drop some settings in favor or fluidity. People should get a 2k monitor (1440p) and wait 5years then get a 4k. I think it's too soon for gpus to handle 4k, they're not quite there yet.
 
Max




Oh i agree, such as games like Crysis 3 and BF4 and other heavy graphic engine games, a single gpu(Titan-X) is still too weak.
 
But for games like GTA:V, 40+fps is a given in 4K, and with g-sync that should make it seem as smooth as 60fps..i guess?
 
And if i opt for the Acer 1440p model, i don't want to look back in 2 years and regret not getting a 4K, when a single fastest gpu can handle 4K/60 in most games.
 
I'm just confused how smooth g-sync is and if it matters for 60fps or higher?  
 
If g-sync is so smooth, then what's the purpose of higher then 60fps?
 




Hey,
 
I own a titan x and i'm playing in 1440p not all the way maxed out (no msaa and shadows to soft because i like the look) and i'm dipping in the 40-50's. So 4k IS NOT a given in GTAV. G-sync really shines when you can use a 144hz setting. If you monitor is 60hz, imo there wouldn't be much difference with ou without gsync besides the fact that gsync would remove the tears (but i'd get it anyway). It's a matter of preference. When i use a 144hz setting and drop to 50-60fps it's still uber smooth and no tears so this is where it shines.
 
Max




First, thanks for the reply.
 
When testing GTA:V i was using dsr(1080p monitor and Plasma 1080p) in 4K and 1440p and 1600p and the sweet spot of 60fps was the resolution in between 1440p/1600p(i forgot the exact number). 4K gave me 40fps on average, but that was in the city(start of game).
 
Everything was on max except MSAA.(<--off of course)
 
And since i'm reading in many forums how the biggest difference g-sync makes is really 40-60fps, it's why i'm leaning towards the 4K Acer.
 
To think 4K quality and smooth g-sync is really tempting.
 
Also i really would like to see how much g-sync matters in the 70-144fps range and especially, if it's more smooth then g-sync in 40-60fps.
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