Then something is weird with your setup.  I run this game at 3440x1440p - max settings and get around 60fps constant.  Seriously it runs flawlessly.
 
I would check your monitor and make sure that it is not set at 30hz first (because if you have V-sync enabled with 30hz refresh rate, this will force the game to run at 30fps)

That is really weird

Any way to test the game in a friend's PC who has a stronger CPU to eliminate the possibility that it is a CPU bottleneck, without rejecting the idea that it could be a cpu bottleneck? Have to luv process of elimination...
 
VegeteCreeper just told you that he maxes out the game with maxed settings and has a higher resolution than you do.
 
How is the PSU?

You are running an Intel 970... That's your problem. You are in a CPU bottleneck bro... Like big time.

stalinx20

dwoodward
You are running an Intel 970... That's your problem. You are in a CPU bottleneck bro... Like big time.

His argument will be that he gets outstanding FPS in every game (besides Metro Redux), which apparently is "supposed" to eliminate the idea that it is a CPU problem. I'm agreeing to the idea that it's the CPU causing the issue. that 1080 is blowing that CPU in circles.

Pretty much. The 970 was a good CPU in it's day... But it's old tech. Intel's newer stuff is atleast twice as fast clock for clock.
 
He may as well be running a i7 4770k at 2.0 ghz... that's about the equivalent. 

bg8780
Also, if my CPU is a bottleneck I should see 100% load or close to it when running a game correct?

No.

arestavo
Set PrecisionX or Afterburner to monitor each CPU core. If even one CPU core pegs at or close to 100% when you see low FPS and low GPU utilization, then that is the CPU not supplying the GPU with instructions fast enough - quaintly known as a CPU bottleneck.

Most games out today, and yesterday, are heavily single threaded. There is nothing you can do to get around or minimize it other than:
1) Overclock your CPU. Make sure your cooler can handle the increased heat.
2) Get faster RAM. Yes, faster RAM speed helps out considerably in CPU bound situations.
3) Upgrade to a new Intel plaform (Going AMD over even a weak, new generation i5 is a bad idea for mitigating CPU bound situations).

 
CPU is at 4.2ghz and RAM is 2000mhz. I ran Hardware monitor and Coretemp. None of the threads ever goes over 30% in any games even Metro Redux. GPU hits 112% power load at 99% GPU utilization. That's the biggest reason I had trouble blaming a CPU bottleneck, also FPS is on par with other reviews like I stated before.

Evil_Betox
That's because this game uses SSAA, it's rendering the internal resolution to 2x or 4x of your current resolution similar so the performance hit is similar to using DSR. I get the same performance hit when i use 2x or 4x, i honestly leave it off for this game since i play at 1440p.
 
As for CPU bottleneck it affects a bit but not much in this game, you can read more about it here: http://www.techspot.com/r...-benchmarks/page4.html

THIS makes A LOT more sense. I didn't know how SSAA actually functioned. I was under the impression it worked more like standard AA and just reduced jagged edges. Metro Redux supports FXAA and a type of 4A's AA by default. This also makes more sense since there are threads stating 0.5x SSAA makes the game looks worse because it's running the game at half the set resolution. I also game at 1440p and running SSAA 2x gets me around 50 FPS. This looks to be the answer! I will leave SSAA off and enjoy the 144fps I get at 1440p. Thanks! Mods please give Evil_Betox a Blue Ribbon. Are those still a thing around here?
 
 
EDIT: Here is a breakdown of SSAA in case anyone is interested. https://steamcommunity.co...s/0/34096318957879276/

arestavo


Yeah, if GPU utilization doesn't drop much below 99% then it is GPU bound situation (not CPU bound) - only thing for that is to get a faster GPU, or OC the snot out of the one that you have, or lower in game settings.

Glad you figured out why you were seeing low FPS - SSAA is nice, but one helluva performance hit.

Yep! I have yet to see GPU load go under 99% in any game other than Starcraft. I'd like to get a faster GPU but I don't have $1500 for that new Titan lol I've just been OCing this 1080 for fun, it really doesn't need it outside of pushing for higher Firestrike scores.

CoercionShaman

bg8780

I'd like to get a faster GPU but I don't have $1500 for that new Titan lol

But it's only $1200!

 SOLD!!!

FattysGoneWild
You might be having the latency problem. Try this http://nvidia.custhelp.co...swers/detail/a_id/4202

Is that legit I can't find that driver anywhere else not even on nvidia site?

Evil_Betox

bg8780
 

THIS makes A LOT more sense. I didn't know how SSAA actually functioned. I was under the impression it worked more like standard AA and just reduced jagged edges. Metro Redux supports FXAA and a type of 4A's AA by default. This also makes more sense since there are threads stating 0.5x SSAA makes the game looks worse because it's running the game at half the set resolution. I also game at 1440p and running SSAA 2x gets me around 50 FPS. This looks to be the answer! I will leave SSAA off and enjoy the 144fps I get at 1440p. Thanks! Mods please give Evil_Betox a Blue Ribbon. Are those still a thing around here?
 
 
EDIT: Here is a breakdown of SSAA in case anyone is interested. https://steamcommunity.co...s/0/34096318957879276/

Metro Redux and Last Light Redux were the first games i tested when i got my 1080 FTW, i'm not really a fan of SSAA so i have been trying to find some kind of mod or config file to force a better AA option. Sadly nothing works with this game so i just gave up and started playing without AA, i can still max out every other setting and still keep +80fps at all times with my ancient CPU (upgrading to a 6700k soon, it should help a bit once i do).
 
The link you posted explains very well, the game still keeps it's proprietary AA enabled even if you disable SSAA so it's not like the game looks bad without it.
 
http://imgur.com/a/i5E0e

Agreed. The game looks pretty damn good. Have you tried forcing FXAA in NCP?

Evil_Betox

bg8780

Evil_Betox

bg8780
 

THIS makes A LOT more sense. I didn't know how SSAA actually functioned. I was under the impression it worked more like standard AA and just reduced jagged edges. Metro Redux supports FXAA and a type of 4A's AA by default. This also makes more sense since there are threads stating 0.5x SSAA makes the game looks worse because it's running the game at half the set resolution. I also game at 1440p and running SSAA 2x gets me around 50 FPS. This looks to be the answer! I will leave SSAA off and enjoy the 144fps I get at 1440p. Thanks! Mods please give Evil_Betox a Blue Ribbon. Are those still a thing around here?
 
 
EDIT: Here is a breakdown of SSAA in case anyone is interested. https://steamcommunity.co...s/0/34096318957879276/

Metro Redux and Last Light Redux were the first games i tested when i got my 1080 FTW, i'm not really a fan of SSAA so i have been trying to find some kind of mod or config file to force a better AA option. Sadly nothing works with this game so i just gave up and started playing without AA, i can still max out every other setting and still keep +80fps at all times with my ancient CPU (upgrading to a 6700k soon, it should help a bit once i do).
 
The link you posted explains very well, the game still keeps it's proprietary AA enabled even if you disable SSAA so it's not like the game looks bad without it.
 
http://imgur.com/a/i5E0e

Agreed. The game looks pretty damn good. Have you tried forcing FXAA in NCP?

Yes but i didn't notice any difference to be honest, it seems the game already has some sort of FXAA enabled by default because you can see some jaggies but it's not as bad like in other games without AA. I wish they had a 1.5x option for SSAA or just give us more options like in other games (MSAA, TXAA, SMAA, etc).
 
I was looking for some tool to try force it but no luck so far.

I wish they just had a resolution scale slider like Overwatch and other games. Depth of Field would also be nice. Oh well, the game still looks great.

EVGATech_RayH
CPU bottlenecks are very easy to test and they do not require anything as complicated as messing around in the BIOS or testing in a more powerful computer. Test your computer in the game as you have, get a good feel for the performance or chart the FPS. Then exit and go into the Windows Power Setting and set the Maximum Processor State to 50% so that the CPU will be locked a lower clock C-State. Then test the game again, if you have moderate slow-down but the game is still playable, then you do not have a CPU bottleneck, if the FPS falls off a cliff or the game has very bad stuttering then you have a CPU bottleneck in that particular game. Remember to change the power setting back to 100% after the test. You will have to repeat this test for each game as the amount of the bottleneck will vary from one game to the next.

This is one of the best posts I have seen in a long time!!!