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2021/06/21 17:36:10 (permalink)
So , i know its summer, and its getting hot, evening time when my ambient temp is probably 30c in room, my hybrid is getting up to 74c, card is 6 months old only, and has been mining for 3-4 months roughly . has the thermal paste come to its end ? are the thermal pads dry ? are my LL120 CORSAIR fans no good at 1650rpm , are the stock fans at their max 2250rpm the solution ??  back in the winter when the hybrid kit was new, card wouldnt go over 58c
 
hair flow isnt a problem, as you can see my case has good intake fans and exhaust 

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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 17:39:18 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby mrshrir 2021/06/21 17:40:43
Wouldn’t hurt to check the paste. Pump may be starting to fail, or the fans may not be good enough.
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 17:41:48 (permalink)
any idea what thickness thermal pads are these ? 

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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 18:19:12 (permalink)
I also worry that it's an actual airflow issue.

Yes, you've got TONS of fans in there.

But the actual case is VERY crowded.

Also, are you running with the side panel ON or OFF?

If you're running with the side panel on, you are starving the fan-based portion of the cooler for intake air, which can translate into higher temps as well.

Stuff like this is why I prefer to just get a straight water-cooled unit and tie it in.

Though, I'm sure you'd probably have gone this way were you given the option.


 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 18:41:23 (permalink)
30c ambient temp? There's your issue.

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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 18:43:49 (permalink)
Is that a 680x? As a fellow 680x owner all I can say I'm sorry. You have a lot working against you here.....

You are using LL fans (which are bad rad fans) to try to push air through your rad that's behind a restrictive glass plate. That equation is a recipe for very hot temps.

When I had my 3080 hybrid I'd max at 60c with the rad top mounted as push/pull using 2500RPM fans going full tilt with top glass plate removed.

You need to get out of that case and/or front mount your CPU rad and top mount your GPU rad in push/pull for better performance.
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 19:14:55 (permalink)
Yea that 240 mm rad just really isn't enough. I get just over 60C with my 3080ti hybrid at 450w, but I'm running closer to 2k rpm. Still 74C seems a bit high even with 30C ambient (I'm about 25C).

The thermal pad thicknesses are out there. I've seen them posted. The VRAM is 2.25mm but I can't remember the others. A remount would probably be worth trying.
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 19:18:22 (permalink)
Extracting the heat out of the case is the better option ? I have a hex pattern top glass for ventelation , always knew the glass was restricting . If I take the front filter off and use the original fans for the rad , think it will improve ??
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 19:21:17 (permalink)
Of course when air conditioning goes on temps drop a bit , to 65-66, room is hot , I also have 4 cards mining on a rig in the room .
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 19:24:46 (permalink)
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I also have 4 cards mining on a rig in the room .

😒 that explains. You may have to change the fans of the 240mm and case. You need more powa of the fan scotty!

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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 21:17:29 (permalink)
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Extracting the heat out of the case is the better option ? I have a hex pattern top glass for ventelation , always knew the glass was restricting . If I take the front filter off and use the original fans for the rad , think it will improve ??
get the front hex panel as well. I have this case with both top and front hex panels and air flow is much better. I have my 3090 ftw3 hybrid rad mounted on top as exhaust with 4 corsair ml120s (Capellix) and gpu never goes above 60C. Fans max out around 2000rpm with my fan curve. My room temp now has been around 27C due to the heat. But gpu never goes above 60C.
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/21 23:59:46 (permalink)
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So , i know its summer, and its getting hot, evening time when my ambient temp is probably 30c in room, my hybrid is getting up to 74c, card is 6 months old only, and has been mining for 3-4 months roughly . has the thermal paste come to its end ? are the thermal pads dry ? are my LL120 CORSAIR fans no good at 1650rpm , are the stock fans at their max 2250rpm the solution ??  back in the winter when the hybrid kit was new, card wouldnt go over 58c
 
hair flow isnt a problem, as you can see my case has good intake fans and exhaust 


The past definitely sucks, I put the hybrid ona 3080 and 3080 Ti and the paste was dried up, I didn't even need alcohol to clean it, it just rubbed off like a membrane and then cracked apart a few seconds later. 
 
But also, the LL120 fans suck as radiator fans. If you're running a XOC bios on your card, those fans will not be adequate. They're not high pressured fans, so even though they're rated for like 50 CFM, they'll probably get like 25-30 CFM through a radiator. 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 07:50:13 (permalink)
So today i atleast removed the LL120 fans and put the original radiator fans on the rad, hope the higher RPM will help 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 10:29:39 (permalink)
Did they help?
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 12:15:57 (permalink)
yea, i would say so, while gaming didnt go over 62-63c in a hot room . 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 13:02:13 (permalink)
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yea, i would say so, while gaming didnt go over 62-63c in a hot room . 


And what are the temps with case covers all off? 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 13:07:13 (permalink)
What fans came on the rad(or did you switch onto it)? If there aren't gains to be made there from better SP fans you may have to look into a less restrictive case. I would expect you to be able to chip away at the new lower temps if you want to tinker around with your build.
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 13:12:54 (permalink)
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I also have 4 cards mining on a rig in the room .

😒 that explains. You may have to change the fans of the 240mm and case. You need more powa of the fan scotty!
 
mrshrir
So today i atleast removed the LL120 fans and put the original radiator fans on the rad, hope the higher RPM will help 


 
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yea, i would say so, while gaming didnt go over 62-63c in a hot room . 


Told ya
 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 14:01:31 (permalink)
even when card is Oced to +118%, +100 core +500 mem, fans at 2200RPM, warzone at 3440x1440 max settings, was stable at 56c. the LL CORSAIR FANS are clearly not good radiator fans, i woud like to do push pull but i dont have space, and even when i got a pair of 120mmx15mm fans, they are kinda usless at 1500rpm.
 
i live in a very dusty climate, so taking off the filter is not an option, im sure it would help a little bit more, changing a case isnt an option, my whole rad config, and fans are built around the 680x , and i spent a pretty penny on LL 120,140 FANS and a 280MM NAXT Z63, ideally i would like a lian li dynamic XL, but economically, wouldnt make sense, id need to get 9 120mm fans and change my rad to a 360mm.
 
 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 14:04:21 (permalink)
A real hassle to get these changed out, but well worth it
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 14:18:28 (permalink)
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even when card is Oced to +118%, +100 core +500 mem, fans at 2200RPM, warzone at 3440x1440 max settings, was stable at 56c. the LL CORSAIR FANS are clearly not good radiator fans, i woud like to do push pull but i dont have space, and even when i got a pair of 120mmx15mm fans, they are kinda usless at 1500rpm.
 
i live in a very dusty climate, so taking off the filter is not an option, im sure it would help a little bit more, changing a case isnt an option, my whole rad config, and fans are built around the 680x , and i spent a pretty penny on LL 120,140 FANS and a 280MM NAXT Z63, ideally i would like a lian li dynamic XL, but economically, wouldnt make sense, id need to get 9 120mm fans and change my rad to a 360mm.
 
 


Been there and done that. Was it worth it? Yes. lol. 

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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 14:41:42 (permalink)
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even when card is Oced to +118%, +100 core +500 mem, fans at 2200RPM, warzone at 3440x1440 max settings, was stable at 56c. the LL CORSAIR FANS are clearly not good radiator fans, i woud like to do push pull but i dont have space, and even when i got a pair of 120mmx15mm fans, they are kinda usless at 1500rpm.
 
i live in a very dusty climate, so taking off the filter is not an option, im sure it would help a little bit more, changing a case isnt an option, my whole rad config, and fans are built around the 680x , and i spent a pretty penny on LL 120,140 FANS and a 280MM NAXT Z63, ideally i would like a lian li dynamic XL, but economically, wouldnt make sense, id need to get 9 120mm fans and change my rad to a 360mm.
 
 


Been there and done that. Was it worth it? Yes. lol. 



is your gpu rad pushing air out ? or in ? sick build.
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 14:47:23 (permalink)
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even when card is Oced to +118%, +100 core +500 mem, fans at 2200RPM, warzone at 3440x1440 max settings, was stable at 56c. the LL CORSAIR FANS are clearly not good radiator fans, i woud like to do push pull but i dont have space, and even when i got a pair of 120mmx15mm fans, they are kinda usless at 1500rpm.
 
i live in a very dusty climate, so taking off the filter is not an option, im sure it would help a little bit more, changing a case isnt an option, my whole rad config, and fans are built around the 680x , and i spent a pretty penny on LL 120,140 FANS and a 280MM NAXT Z63, ideally i would like a lian li dynamic XL, but economically, wouldnt make sense, id need to get 9 120mm fans and change my rad to a 360mm.
 
 


Been there and done that. Was it worth it? Yes. lol. 




 


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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 15:06:33 (permalink)
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even when card is Oced to +118%, +100 core +500 mem, fans at 2200RPM, warzone at 3440x1440 max settings, was stable at 56c. the LL CORSAIR FANS are clearly not good radiator fans, i woud like to do push pull but i dont have space, and even when i got a pair of 120mmx15mm fans, they are kinda usless at 1500rpm.
 
i live in a very dusty climate, so taking off the filter is not an option, im sure it would help a little bit more, changing a case isnt an option, my whole rad config, and fans are built around the 680x , and i spent a pretty penny on LL 120,140 FANS and a 280MM NAXT Z63, ideally i would like a lian li dynamic XL, but economically, wouldnt make sense, id need to get 9 120mm fans and change my rad to a 360mm.
 
 


Been there and done that. Was it worth it? Yes. lol. 



is your gpu rad pushing air out ? or in ? sick build.




It was pushing air into the case but I have since switched it to push air out because I got tired of the fan noise. All that 400W+ of heat dumped into the case made all my other fans go up to keep my CPU cool. 
 
When I switched the radiator fans to exhaust, I was able to remove the dust filter that restricted the push-pull fan. So in a sense, performance stayed the same. You don't need a dust filter for an exhaust fan. You definitely need a dust filter for a intake fan. 
 
Anyways, you can see more about the build here: https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-RTX-3080-FTW3-Hybrid-kit-unboxing-and-installation-gallery-m3174307.aspx
 
This was before I got QL120s and I just recently (past weekend) switched the radiator from a intake to exhaust. 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 15:26:56 (permalink)
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even when card is Oced to +118%, +100 core +500 mem, fans at 2200RPM, warzone at 3440x1440 max settings, was stable at 56c. the LL CORSAIR FANS are clearly not good radiator fans, i woud like to do push pull but i dont have space, and even when i got a pair of 120mmx15mm fans, they are kinda usless at 1500rpm.


Push/pull is definitely possible on the 680x. I have a 360 aio and the gpu rad both in push pull. You have to come up with a way to space the top fans further back. I used flat braces like these to push them further to the rear.

https://www.amazon.com/dp...3V7JKEEB4H48E2M9?psc=1

Link to pics of my build.

https://twitter.com/Maste...89634373390057475?s=19
post edited by eg1122 - 2021/06/22 15:41:07

CPU: Intel i9-11900K
Cooling: Corsair iCue H150i RGB Pro XT
Fans: 6x Corsair LL120, 4x Corsair ML120 RGB (Capellix), 4x Corsair ML120 Pro RGB
Mother Board: MSI MEG Z590 Ace
GPU: EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid
RAM: 4x 8GB CORSAIR Vengeance @XMP 3600mhz
SSDs(NVME): 1x WD Black SN850 1TB, 1x WD Black SN750 1TB, 1x WD Blue SN550 2TB
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 15:40:17 (permalink)
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yea, i would say so, while gaming didnt go over 62-63c in a hot room . 

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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 16:23:08 (permalink)
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even when card is Oced to +118%, +100 core +500 mem, fans at 2200RPM, warzone at 3440x1440 max settings, was stable at 56c. the LL CORSAIR FANS are clearly not good radiator fans, i woud like to do push pull but i dont have space, and even when i got a pair of 120mmx15mm fans, they are kinda usless at 1500rpm.


Push/pull is definitely possible on the 680x. I have a 360 aio and the gpu rad both in push pull. You have to come up with a way to space the top fans further back. I used flat braces like these to push them further to the rear.

https://www.amazon.com/dp...3V7JKEEB4H48E2M9?psc=1

Link to pics of my build.

https://twitter.com/Maste...89634373390057475?s=19



THE gpu rad is in the front, i really dont see how i can fit a pair of 120mm fans behind the rad, there is no space, in your pic i see you have the 360m H150 corsair rad, maybe its a few mm thinner than the evga 240 rad that is with the hybrid gpu
 
edit, just read your corsair rad is 27mm, and the evga rad is 27.5mm
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 19:00:03 (permalink)
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 19:39:35 (permalink)
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Of course when air conditioning goes on temps drop a bit , to 65-66, room is hot , I also have 4 cards mining on a rig in the room .


You don't want to just try to cool the room.
You need a way to extract the hot air from the room as well.
Because your mining rigs will overpower window and mini-split style AC units.
Period.

You want to get the hot air out, and cool fresh, incoming air.
Rather than trying to constantly cycle hot air through, hoping to cool it down.


 
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Re: very very hot HYBRID 3080 TEMPS 2021/06/22 19:42:35 (permalink)
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i live in a very dusty climate, so taking off the filter is not an option,


When was the last time you changed the filter in your HVAC system?

If your environment really is that dusty, clean your house HARD.
Swap the filters for HEPA-grade stuff.
Then clean again.




 
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