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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/19 18:39:54 (permalink)
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 Newegg does not allow you to return MOBO. If you haven't received it yet I would seriously consider declining the shipment from UPS and just going ahead and getting an ASUS rampage IV gene/Formula or extreme  grrr still cant figure out how to quote here I put /quote in brackets on each side of what I was quoting.. owell and sorry

Damn :( ... Ill give it a shot anyhow I still am a believer in EVGA. And eventualy im sure a bios will come out to fix the issues. You can return to newegg within 30 days but not for refund or exchange, only for replacement for defective board...

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 01:20:08 (permalink)
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While it may be possible to get a "report" of Gen3 support...

That is quite impossible in reality, as your 3930k CPU is NOT a Gen3 revision, its a PCIE Gen 2.0.
Here is the Intel Ark page for your CPU
http://ark.intel.com/prod...M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

I do not understand why this keeps coming up, as it says quite clearly on the Motherboard spec pages, that gen 3 is only available to CPU's that support it.

There is no "patch" that can change the PCIE version hardware that is built into the CPU
You either bought a Gen 3.0 CPU and its supported.... or you didnt. 


This keeps coming up because people like you don't understand.  As someone pointed out, Intel has made mistakes (many) before regarding info on those pages.  My guess is that it has not been updated...

What are the specs for the i7-3970X, released more than a year later? Does it also need "updating"?
 
Intel has had more than a year-and-a-half since the release of SB-E and the decision to not run PCIe 3 on X79, and if you still believe all of those initial conditions and behind-the-scenes maneuvers still support your argument and that a working Ver 3 controller is not a current Cull Factor for the E5-1660, then it's more likely some personal databases need updating instead.
 
Intel may make as many mistakes as anyone else, but they rarely miss a marketing opportunity with $1000 dies...

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 02:37:09 (permalink)
What kind of frame rates are you getting with the third card?
Im getting my third Titan tommorow and its going on the
Asrock Extreme 11 setup,,,,,i had problems with my PCIE 3
at first but a few bios updates and now its working sweet
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 10:34:13 (permalink)
WOW nice custom Case there Johnny! Is that Plexiglass for the case/rack?
 
I think I'm going to attempt making one of these. How well does the heat dissipate in plexiglass?

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 10:37:16 (permalink)
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What kind of frame rates are you getting with the third card?
Im getting my third Titan tommorow and its going on the
Asrock Extreme 11 setup,,,,,i had problems with my PCIE 3
at first but a few bios updates and now its working sweet
remember i talked to you Johnny_Utah last fall about it

 
I haven't had time to compare 2 cards to 3 yet.  It really now depends on the game and drivers. Are you running surround or single screen?





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 10:44:58 (permalink)
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Johnny_Utah

maniacvvv

While it may be possible to get a "report" of Gen3 support...

That is quite impossible in reality, as your 3930k CPU is NOT a Gen3 revision, its a PCIE Gen 2.0.
Here is the Intel Ark page for your CPU
http://ark.intel.com/prod...M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

I do not understand why this keeps coming up, as it says quite clearly on the Motherboard spec pages, that gen 3 is only available to CPU's that support it.

There is no "patch" that can change the PCIE version hardware that is built into the CPU
You either bought a Gen 3.0 CPU and its supported.... or you didnt. 


This keeps coming up because people like you don't understand.  As someone pointed out, Intel has made mistakes (many) before regarding info on those pages.  My guess is that it has not been updated...

What are the specs for the i7-3970X, released more than a year later? Does it also need "updating"?

Intel has had more than a year-and-a-half since the release of SB-E and the decision to not run PCIe 3 on X79, and if you still believe all of those initial conditions and behind-the-scenes maneuvers still support your argument and that a working Ver 3 controller is not a current Cull Factor for the E5-1660, then it's more likely some personal databases need updating instead.

Intel may make as many mistakes as anyone else, but they rarely miss a marketing opportunity with $1000 dies...

 
Whether I am right about this or not, it really doesn't matter.  The fact is that the controller is on the die and the problems are due to the motherboard signalling.  Not all motherboards exhibit the behavior.  Intel could not certify 3.0 because that would mean that the CPUs would work on all chipset/platforms.  Since X79 is one of those and some mainboards have problems, it isn't certified.  It doesn't mean that the controller isn't there and that some mainboards work with it.
 
Look you can be pissed all day if you want, the fact is that a lot of people are getting Gen 3 speeds with certain boards.  It is not only "reporting" as such but the evidence is there to support it.    So can we stop now with all this nonsense?  I had rather large jumps in performance now that my cards are negotiating at the Gen 3 speeds. 
 
My point:  The "hack" only manipulates the Nvidia drivers to enable Gen 3, that's it!  You cannot run a software hack for hardware that isn't present.   Have a great day.





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 11:04:20 (permalink)
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WOW nice custom Case there Johnny! Is that Plexiglass for the case/rack?

I think I'm going to attempt making one of these. How well does the heat dissipate in plexiglass?

 
Thanks Dustin.
 
It's acrylic and the best review (kinda gives you the ins and outs) is here:  http://www.tomshardware.c...ture-rack,2411-5.htmlI
 
It really is designed to be a test bench.  I have housed 3 builds in this case in the last year (same x79 platform though).  I like it so much, it has just become a permanent case for me.  It is so much easier to see and work on things out in the open, obviously.  I picked up the ATX-XL extensions so I could run large mainboards if needed.  You can purchase a top (which I have) if you want a bit more protection or if you are thinking of transporting the case.  It's basically a skeleton so the heat simply dissipates into the air.  I haven't had any problems thus far.





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 11:12:15 (permalink)
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WOW nice custom Case there Johnny! Is that Plexiglass for the case/rack?

I think I'm going to attempt making one of these. How well does the heat dissipate in plexiglass?


Thanks Dustin.

It's acrylic and the best review (kinda gives you the ins and outs) is here:  http://www.tomshardware.c...ture-rack,2411-5.htmlI

It really is designed to be a test bench.  I have housed 3 builds in this case in the last year (same x79 platform though).  I like it so much, it has just become a permanent case for me.  It is so much easier to see and work on things out in the open, obviously.  I picked up the ATX-XL extensions so I could run large mainboards if needed.  You can purchase a top (which I have) if you want a bit more protection or if you are thinking of transporting the case.  It's basically a skeleton so the heat simply dissipates into the air.  I haven't had any problems thus far.

It is the original DD torture rack right? I had one and sold it, worst decision i've made. Been looking for one since but can't find one so building one myself
 
Derp it is in your sig 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 12:00:43 (permalink)
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Johnny_Utah

dustingg

WOW nice custom Case there Johnny! Is that Plexiglass for the case/rack?

I think I'm going to attempt making one of these. How well does the heat dissipate in plexiglass?


Thanks Dustin.

It's acrylic and the best review (kinda gives you the ins and outs) is here:  http://www.tomshardware.c...ture-rack,2411-5.htmlI

It really is designed to be a test bench.  I have housed 3 builds in this case in the last year (same x79 platform though).  I like it so much, it has just become a permanent case for me.  It is so much easier to see and work on things out in the open, obviously.  I picked up the ATX-XL extensions so I could run large mainboards if needed.  You can purchase a top (which I have) if you want a bit more protection or if you are thinking of transporting the case.  It's basically a skeleton so the heat simply dissipates into the air.  I haven't had any problems thus far.

It is the original DD torture rack right? I had one and sold it, worst decision i've made. Been looking for one since but can't find one so building one myself

Derp it is in your sig 

 
Hehe yup.  It's all good, I do that all the time:)  I picked this up about a year and a half ago.  I never knew how much fun I would have with it.  For 150 bucks + shipping, I am getting more out of this than just about any other purchase.  Honestly, it's a blast building in this rack.





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 20:07:37 (permalink)
 
I looks almost the same as my Mountain Mods U2 UFO Horizon. I thought it was until you said it was a DD case.
 
 


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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/20 23:54:40 (permalink)
Johnny_Utah Whether I am right about this or not, it really doesn't matter...

It does when you publish, as with a Forum, and then simply dismiss everything else as ignorance.
 
... The fact is that the controller is on the die and the problems are due to the motherboard signalling.  Not all motherboards exhibit the behavior.  Intel could not certify 3.0 because that would mean that the CPUs would work on all chipset/platforms.  Since X79 is one of those and some mainboards have problems, it isn't certified...

CPUs aren't certified for MoBos, it's the other way around. And since you can't interpret data...
 
...Look you can be pissed all day if you want...

...any better than you do people, I'll leave you to your thread and its flat-worlder logic...

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 01:07:58 (permalink)
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I had rather large jumps in performance now that my cards are negotiating at the Gen 3 speeds. 

Are you sure that jump wasn't from going to 3x titans? PCI-E 2.0 x16 vs GEN3 x16 shouldn't make much of a difference at this time.


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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 01:36:23 (permalink)
Things like this are what made me decide after the SR-2 that i was done buying EVGA.  The support and even innovation of them has stagnated badly after shamino left as well as the other members of the motherboard team.  Glad you found a solution in the end.
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 03:28:26 (permalink)
Im running 6050x1200

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 11:07:10 (permalink)
grrrrr..... people please. If you have never owned and used this hardware, don't bother commenting on it. You have no hands on experience. Your going by your own opinion or hear say....
 
The Bottom line is some boards work fine in gen3 and other don't.
 
I wasn't able to run a sinlge GTX 680 when I first got this MB. I switched to the GTX 690. Ran gen3 no problem without the Nvidia Reg key.
Then went to the Titan 2way sli and was able to run gen3 as well after a little trouble shooting with the MMIOH settings.
the Sandy-E processor have 40 PCIE lanes. MORE then Ivy, More then Haswell. Sandy_E has the bandwith and speed to support 8gts gen3 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 11:31:11 (permalink)
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Johnny_Utah Whether I am right about this or not, it really doesn't matter...

It does when you publish, as with a Forum, and then simply dismiss everything else as ignorance.

... The fact is that the controller is on the die and the problems are due to the motherboard signalling.  Not all motherboards exhibit the behavior.  Intel could not certify 3.0 because that would mean that the CPUs would work on all chipset/platforms.  Since X79 is one of those and some mainboards have problems, it isn't certified...

CPUs aren't certified for MoBos, it's the other way around. And since you can't interpret data...

...Look you can be pissed all day if you want...

...any better than you do people, I'll leave you to your thread and its flat-worlder logic...

 
Reread what I said about CPU's for chipsets, ,not mainboards.
 
 
Thanks for all your help.  Yes, I can dismiss everything else as ignorance because our findings and that of a myriad of other reputable hardware sites agree.  I am so glad you know it all, maybe you can deliver your nonsense to someone else, far far away fro me and from people who actually want the real story:  Socket 2011 X79 can run PCI-E 3.0 just fine on some mainboards.
 
I have tested the 7970., 680 and not Titan along with 3 motherboards since X79 and socket 2011 debuted in November 2011.  I think I have a bit more data than you.   I think it's funny that all you have done is attack my explanation for why Intel's page reads Gen 2, you have said nothing about the PCI-E controller on board the chip, nor the findings of increased performance.
 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 11:35:47 (permalink)
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Johnny_Utah
I had rather large jumps in performance now that my cards are negotiating at the Gen 3 speeds. 

Are you sure that jump wasn't from going to 3x titans? PCI-E 2.0 x16 vs GEN3 x16 shouldn't make much of a difference at this time.

 
Yup, I am very sure.  I made sure that EVERYTHING stayed the same.  Gen 3 x 16 actually will make a huge difference if you run 7680 x 1440 with max settings ;)  Ask Gutcheck...he had massive performance gains at these high resolutions when enabling Gen 3. 
 
If you guys are running high res surround, try it for yourselves.   These "self proclaimed experts" can't explain it either, they just want to make themselves sound important.  I will say it again, you cannot run gen 3 without a controller, which is on die.  ALl the software does is enable it for Nvidia drivers.  AMD has them enabled by default and so far, I haven't heard of any stories of amd 7xxx line NOT running gen 3 on X79 boards.   The issue is with Nvidia and their drivers.
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 12:08:21 (permalink)
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Hi Johnny,
I am running the Asus Sabertooth X79 board with 2 GTX 680's and can't seem to get the cards to run at PCIe 3.0. I downloaded the NVidia patch and applied it but GPU-Z is still reporting PCIe 2.0. I tried disabling SLI and rerunning the patch but still doesn't work.  I'm running Windows 8 and not sure if that may be the issue?  The motherboard is advertised as PCIe 3.0 ready.  Thanks 

 
After some more reading, it looks like the Sabertooth X79 is another board that has trouble running Gen 3.  Read this thread over at [H]:
 
http://hardforum.com/show...1039724837   There is a post around the middle that references your board.





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 12:18:09 (permalink)
I can verify that by going from 2.0 to 3.0 made almost no difference at 1080p but with my res I see 20-40% increases across the board. It was a bigger jump then I expected, huge.

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 12:24:41 (permalink)
Also this is likely why the 7970 looks so good in those 5760x1080 numbers. I suspect 680's at PCIe 3.0 would destroy them.

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 12:35:28 (permalink)
I updated the OP to reflect more findings and to note that EVGA X79 boards are not the only to exhibit problems with the modded drivers for Gen 3.





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 12:41:55 (permalink)
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Also this is likely why the 7970 looks so good in those 5760x1080 numbers. I suspect 680's at PCIe 3.0 would destroy them.

 
It stands to reason that the greater the resolution, the greater the gains would be negotiating at greater speeds.  I think that is why those of us running Surround@ 1440-1600 are seeing this.





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 13:04:29 (permalink)
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I looks almost the same as my Mountain Mods U2 UFO Horizon. I thought it was until you said it was a DD case.



 
Sorry for the confusion.  Those are two different builds.  The one on modsrigs is a different rig altogether.  The one I am referencing is the one in my sig.





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 13:29:26 (permalink)
@Johnny_Utah & Gutcheck,
 
Would you guys mind posting some benchmarks running PCI-E 2.0 x16 vs GEN3 x16 at 7680x1400 & 7680x1600? I would like to see the gains. 


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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 13:34:16 (permalink)
Sajin, when I get back home next week (hopefully) I shall.  I'll send them to you.  I'm opening a new store and will be here for a while.  (Unfortunately unable to play games, arggggh!!) Hopefully Gut will be able to post some info..actually he might have in his thread?
 
I take that back, I can play only on my laptop but it's just not the same as you guys know;) 
 
 





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/21 15:52:27 (permalink)
There is a ton of data in my titan 7860x1600 thread.

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/22 14:43:13 (permalink)
I can say without a doubt that Johnny_Utah is spot-on with everything he has said about 3.0. The only discrepancy is a few ppl with weak silicon CPUs cannot use 3.0 and be stable. I have seen evidence of this on the Asus ROG Rampage series forum - Johnny_Utah you should join us there.
However, the forum has one Achilles heel: The servers are down about 10% of the time, like right now. I still keep one foot in the EVGA forums, there's a lot of good info to learn from here, and a lot of ppl that can benefit from my help, so I visit from time-to-time. I used to have an E758 EVGA X58 SLI, but I updated it to the R3E and my wife now games with it.

But my point is that not everyone with said RIVE/RIVF mobo can use 3.0, it is more a function of CPU than mobo, as Johnny_Utah has already hinted at. I didn't know about the Sabertooth, I don't follow those threads at ROG. But I'd guess that 95% or more of Asus RIVE owners can use 3.0 - I have been ever since I bought it, after the proper BIOS update came out (BIOS 1005 12/23/11 for RIVE). I used to be Xfire (dual) 5850s then 7870s, all ran in 3.0 mode - I checked it W/CPU-Z (now I only run a single 7870). So be careful not to dismiss a motherboard as being 3.0 incompatible from a single user report, Johnny_Utah. Not to mention they might be just using an obsolete BIOS.

Johnny_Utah those are awesome sweet rigs. Did you know you can put two or more in ModsRigs? Of course only one will link to your member panel in your posts, but you can add them to your sig like I did. I even have them both linked in my sig at Asus ROG forums. (I fear that one of these days EVGA is going to go though and delete all the ones that don't use EVGA parts!)


maniacvvv

While it may be possible to get a "report" of Gen3 support...

That is quite impossible in reality, as your 3930k CPU is NOT a Gen3 revision, its a PCIE Gen 2.0.
Here is the Intel Ark page for your CPU
[link]

I do not understand why this keeps coming up, as it says quite clearly on the Motherboard spec pages, that gen 3 is only available to CPU's that support it.

There is no "patch" that can change the PCIE version hardware that is built into the CPU
You either bought a Gen 3.0 CPU and its supported.... or you didnt.

maniacvvv your posts have been so awesome and spot-on in the past I thought they were all "natural law." But this time I see you are dead wrong, just goes to show nobody is perfect. Your misunderstanding is understandable though, certification is not the same as results IRL. You're still my EVGA forum hero though.



blackened696 I hope you returned your EVGA and purchased an Asus Rampage series X79. I am sooo glad I went Asus W/X79. I have been following the EVGA X series mobo forums now for several years, and I have seen the shortcomings of EVGA, I think they all started with the loss of Shamino to Asus - that seems to be when EVGAs ability to make awesome products and fix the issues of the current products began to fail. I seen EVGA fail to fix the USB failure issues of a small percent of X58 owners, and then they engineered X79 boards with the same problem. The EVGA mobo's don't S3 sleep properly, Asus just does. I've read the X79 issues thread. I can compare to the Asus ROG forums and I can say that Asus has EVGA beat on design, features, and workability. Of course Asus support is nearly non-existent compared to EVGA; but if you get a good working board you shouldn't need support other than driver updates and Asus does this almost as fast as EVGA, but with much more reliable results (still not perfect though).


Anyway, I love my RIVE - and that's from a former EVGA owner (my E758 is still registered under my name). GL to you all.
post edited by HalloweenWeed - 2013/03/22 14:58:24

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/23 00:24:41 (permalink)
Hey Halloweed, thanks for the post.  Regarding the Sabertooth, you are right, I shouldn't dismiss it so quickly.  I did however note a few threads over at [H]ard Forum where 2 members could not get their Sabertooth to run Gen 3, so I surmised it may be a Mobo issue....but who knows.  I am VERY happy now that these Titans are running 3.0, I can't tell you how happy:)
 
I will indeed join you over at the ROG forums and thanks for the invite!





 
 
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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/23 18:26:22 (permalink)
I can confirm, as I have in other posts, that Intel's documentation not only reflects PCI Express up to 8 GT/s on the 39xxKs, updated in November 2012, but it works at those speeds with my 2x 680s.  I see performance improvements when PCI Express is running Gen 3.
 
This is irrefutable evidence.  The signaling issue is a result of the motherboard far more often than not.  To to the myriad of issues with the EVGA X79 boards, I too switched to a RIVE back in August/September 2012 and found immediate resolution to all my issues and PCI Express 3.0 worked flawlessly and has ever since.
 
Here's the link to Intel's documentation and an Intel Rep posting about it in forums:
 
http://www.tomshardware.c...k-support-pcie#3112319
 
http://forums.anandtech.c...330546&postcount=4
 
And here's the white paper that notes it (read page 9):
 
http://www.intel.com/cont...1-datasheet-vol-1.html
 
Also, that Danger Den Torture Rack is beast... I use one too...

 
Pic is from back in November 2012, I replaced the H100 pull 2-fan setup with an H100i in push/pull 4-fan.  But you get the gist.
post edited by mwparrish - 2013/03/23 18:29:28

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Re:Gen 3 Fun with X79 2013/03/23 19:07:41 (permalink)
Funny, it appears that the world is flat after all, eh?
 
And yet people STILL argue that they only support 2.0....some people just can't admit when they are wrong.
post edited by Johnny_Utah - 2013/03/23 19:24:32





 
 
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