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2011/12/28 09:13:23 (permalink)
How to build a CNC MACHINE
I recently did a complete rebuild of my CNC machine, so I figure I could at least show the original build.
 
First, to make your life easy and if you don't know jack about making a milling machine from scratch, do the next best thing and buy a milling machine.  There are so many different kinds to suit your budget or work. 
 
I hate to say this, but you need to put your budget aside and think of what you want to make with your machine.  If your more budget oriented, then you may just have to skip this hobby altogether.  You will realize that you didn't spend enough the first time, and end up spending twice as much once you end up buying the proper machine.  Remember this, you will see this unfold before you shortly...
 
While my milling endeavors started quite humble with a sliding cross vise and a drill press I will skip to the next evolution and present the purchased mill:
Harbor Freight Mini Mill (Seig X2) $599.99
Don't ever pay that price, find 20% coupons online, or wait for sales etc...
One company makes these, but many companies sell them.  Its an ideal machine to learn on and as far as milling machine goes, it is THE starter mill.  It has a 9" x 4" table travel & it is made in China, so its "good enough" to start with.
 
Fast forward a few months and I quickly realized that the 4" Y axis (towards you, and away from you) was not going to be enough for me.  After doing some research I decided to upgrade.  Now remember what I said about spending twice as much to buy the proper tool?  Normally I would have had to do that, but now the expression goes: time is money.  I had time, not money.  SO, I bought a much larger cross sliding table and decided to adapt it to fit that mill.  Nothing impossible, but a monumental task for a novice such as myself.
 
First thing I needed was a table to keep it on:

Not exactly the most sturdy thing, but if u anchor it to a wall its much more sturdy.  A fundamental of milling is a sturdy base.  You want a rigid machine.  This table was not rigid enough, in hind-site, but it has been fixed since then.
 
Next comes the frame that the vise will be sitting on:

Made from 2x2 square tubular cold-rolled steel. 
 
Just a side by side, you can see how much larger the new table is compared to the factory:

So far we haven't used any fancy tools other then a drill press.
 
Now comes the breakdown of the new table:

This is every component the table is made of. 
 
One important aspect (probably THE most important) is accuracy.  Anyone who has used a table vise at least once in their life has experienced a phenomenon called backlash.  This is where your spinning the handle, and the vise doesn't move because of the slop in the screw.  Most traditional type of screws have this slop, so CNC machines tend to not have these type of screws in them.
 
Enter Ballscrews:

They are far more efficient at transferring rotary motion, to linear motion.
 
This was the tricky part, yanking out the regular screws, and replacing them with ballscrews.  Actually the hard part is mounting the ball nut someplace where it doesn't move.  Essentially you are replacing this:

The place to mount the ballnut, and you are replacing the handle, with a motor:

 
Here is the conversion:



 
Here is the final product of the original build:

 
There is so much more involved, but its not outside the realm of possibility.  I didn't cover the Z axis (up and down) in this thread simply because I am limited to 10 attachments.  I will go into more detail on that when I make a new thread on the current rebuild of this machine since I did a complete rebuild of that.
 
I hope this helps anyone who was thinking about taking their DIY skills to another level. 
 
 
 
 
 
post edited by nateman_doo - 2011/12/28 17:10:49

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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 09:16:12 (permalink)
Incredible is the only word I can think of right now...


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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 09:20:58 (permalink)
Very Nicely done I have not use one before but I have worked with presses and drills.
 
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 09:21:21 (permalink)
Just looking at the pictures I got confused! Nice setup! I think? 
 
My friend works with this type of equipment and has tried telling me about it but, i think without seeing it in action it my just get lost in translation (to me anyway).. 


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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 09:31:34 (permalink)
Nate you are a true DIYer's inspiration man!!! I had some stuff I was gonna make by hand but the projects ended up way tooo complicated for hand work, especially since the end result would be seen. Now you have me looking into actually taking the cnc plunge again and actually revisting some of my mods and ideas. Did you order the bigger table etc... From Harborfteight too?? We have a HF store right down the road, in Lakewood , so I can nag the people who work there with questions if I need to. :P. Anyway, thanx for finally taking the time to put your expierence up here and ill def be watching this thread.

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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 09:42:13 (permalink)
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 09:46:26 (permalink)
i have no idea what is that



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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 09:53:13 (permalink)
Now you have to make your own Laser CNC

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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 10:23:28 (permalink)
Laser is just a "finer bit"
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 11:16:39 (permalink)
think : Water knife

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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 11:48:49 (permalink)
I don't have much love for the waterjet.  Its great to rough cut stuff, but the one I have seen isn't all that great.
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 11:51:01 (permalink)

prometheus_32 
think : Water knife  
 
No, think garnet abrasive suspended in high pressure (60,000 psi) water stream. The water isn't the thing cutting, the garnet powder is. I also hate that the garnet is humidity sensitive and can get stopped up.
 
Waterjet is a lot less accurate than laser. If I was to get any 2.5 axis stuff cut it would always been on laser in preference to waterjet. At issue is I have access to waterjet not laser.
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 12:17:11 (permalink)
Looks like a really cool project Nate. I think you may be catching the bug. I love to tinker with stuff, while I have no experience with it (machining) . It looks to be quite interesting, thanks for sharing with us. I have been reading your threads on the other projects you have going, this expands your capabilities. Very cool!
 
 
Edit: I noticed on your waterblocks,the fluid which is very necessary for cooling.....is that a cabinet in the last picture? Is this used for fluid collection and reuse?
post edited by notfordman - 2011/12/28 12:23:46
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 12:24:36 (permalink)
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Looks like a really cool project Nate. I think you may be catching the bug. I love to tinker with stuff, while I have no experience with it (machining) . It looks to be quite interesting, thanks for sharing with us. I have been reading your threads on the other projects you have going, this expands your capabilities. Very cool!

BCC and WATC have some inexpensive community college level CNC courses available. Both have good facilities to learn in. WATC has the more technically advanced equipped facility while BCC is more personalized and hands on with personal projects. Mark Meeks would be the WATC POC and Bufford Pringle would be the BCC POC. I think both places do day and night versions of their courses. BCC machine shop is in the 5000 Andover campus building and WATC machine shop is in the NIAR campus building over by Jabarra airport. You could probably call either/both and get a short personal tour of their facilities and capabilities plus advisement. Just tell them I referred you to them. Both will remember me from SkillsUSA at each school.
 
If anyone is wondering what I'm talking about, both notfordman and I live in the same city. 
post edited by Brad_Hawthorne - 2011/12/28 12:32:37
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 12:38:40 (permalink)
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Edit: I noticed on your waterblocks,the fluid which is very necessary for cooling.....is that a cabinet in the last picture? Is this used for fluid collection and reuse?

Fluid is required for cutting some materials.  Copper is one of them.  I recirculate an oil/water based fluid.  The enclosure around the mill catches the splash and collects it.  a regular pond pump is all that I use.
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 14:24:43 (permalink)
Nice work, can't wait for the rebuild thread.
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 17:12:06 (permalink)
That won't be to far in the future.  Glad you like it :)
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 18:01:48 (permalink)
Sweet, nice Nate, thanks.....
 
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/28 19:00:33 (permalink)
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2011/12/29 01:15:43 (permalink)
Thanks! 
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/23 21:57:58 (permalink)
Just a heads up, nateman_doo is working on another X2 CNC build. He's working on the x-y table at the moment.
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 12:45:37 (permalink)
I need to build one of these... or maybe have you run some parts off for me :)

Why so serious?

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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 12:49:30 (permalink)
I'm seriously interested in building one of these... maybe even adding another axis. It would seriously help me with my race car and I could make a lot of the little stuff in house.
 
Are you controlling cutter depth?
 
What are you using for software / logic board ,etc?
 
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 13:16:40 (permalink)
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I'm seriously interested in building one of these... maybe even adding another axis. It would seriously help me with my race car and I could make a lot of the little stuff in house.

Are you controlling cutter depth?

What are you using for software / logic board ,etc?



It's 3-axis controlled with Mach3. In my case the controllers are Geckodrives. Be mindful that this is a minimill, so the cutting area isn't huge.
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 18:14:55 (permalink)
The cutting area can be as big as you want it.  The only limiting factors are your imagination, skill, and budget.  The one I am building (not Brad's) has a work envelope of 324in² but it is a very expensive time consuming build.  The area of the one pictured here is 86in²
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 19:21:13 (permalink)
But where do we put the still?
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 19:23:43 (permalink)
The stand?  I will be using cinderblocks filled with concrete, then anchored to the floor.
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 19:32:31 (permalink)



This Granny's Still, not Steel.....
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 19:35:35 (permalink)
que?  whats wrong with concrete? 
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Re:How to make a CNC machine. 2012/01/25 19:40:53 (permalink)
nothing
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