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takuhari
iCX Member
2011/11/14 17:36:31
Is this the SR-3 bored that is going to be for the x79 series?...


 
post edited by takuhari - 2012/03/02 17:26:13
_MatthewH
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/14 17:38:51
A prototype of it, yes.
DraginElite
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/14 17:49:33
still strikes me as odd have 1 CPU having 8 slots with the other CPU having 4
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/14 17:52:46
Socket 0 is wired to eight DDR3 DIMM slots (two DIMMs/channel), while socket 1 to four slots (1 DIMM/channel)
post edited by takuhari - 2011/11/14 17:59:21
INFRNL
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/14 19:04:43
I think the ram is all shared among the 12 slots but I have no idea. It was also mentioned that they did it this way so you can use your ram from SR-2 for this board and not have to buy new ram.
  It is kind of odd depending on how it works exactly, but its nice that they thought about saving us some money and not have to buy new ram. I personally cannot wait for the release
farthestkris
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/14 19:39:13
evga should stick with either 8 dimms for both or 4 dimms for both, the board looks. disproportionate.
nivekt
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/14 19:49:11
farthestkris

evga should stick with either 8 dimms for both or 4 dimms for both, the board looks. disproportionate.

Function over form, I always say. Im sure there is a very good reason for the layout. Besides, with that layout and 8gb DIMMS, the possibility of 96gb of ram exists. Is that not enough?
cpsusie
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/14 21:22:26
nivekt
 Function over form, I always say. 

 
I feel the same way.  I don't understand why people care about the color scheme or that it looks "badass" or whatever.  It's not like I look at the damned thing.  It could be shaped like a turd or a pool of vomit for all I care.  As long as it performs.  (Now if it smelled like vomit or a turd I might object . . . can't help but smell it even if I don't look at it.)
 
justin_43
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/14 22:36:12
farthestkris

evga should stick with either 8 dimms for both or 4 dimms for both, the board looks. disproportionate.

I totally agree. Slight OCD I guess, but it just doesn't look right, and I am really interested in this board, but it would bother me if it ships with 12 DIMM slots. I'd rather have 4 per CPU than this. If someone is buying this board and the accompanying Xeons, I think they could probably afford 4 more sticks to make 16. Or just use 8 until you had the money for the rest. I think most users of this board will want to take advantage of the quad channel memory anyway, and populate the appropriate amount of DIMM slots. I just don't see someone who has plans to purchase this board already, not buying it because it has 4 extra DIMMs. Also if someone already has 12 sticks, and populates 12 of 12 DIMMS or populates 12 of 16 DIMMS the board will run in triple channel either way, right? So really this benefits no one IMHO. But I'm sure there is a better reason that I can't think of, otherwise EVGA would not do it. I just don't see the downside to 16 DIMM slots. And as far as looks go, I like symmetry, as most people do.
post edited by jethc9 - 2011/11/15 02:17:41
TiN_EE
Yes, that TiN
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 06:48:44
Hey, what's with all this naming, it's not SR-3. What is "3" ? :D
Board will have similar but other name.
 
Also I don't see any problems for memory slots amount. Because of tight space constrains slave CPU have only 4 slots, but both CPUs still have fully functional quad channel. First cpu just have two dimms per each channel, as you see on pic. Still more than enough to fit 96 GB of memory
lehpron
Regular Guy
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 09:36:43
TiN_EE
Hey, what's with all this naming, it's not SR-3. What is "3" ? :D
Board will have similar but other name.
Do you think we'll have another contest to make up a name?  I know it as SR-2's successor; many call it 3 because it is after 2.  Before Core i7, I called Bloomfield "Core 3 Quad" tentatively.

EVGA_JacobF
EVGA Alumni
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 09:52:50
Currently it is planned to be called SR-X
justin_43
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 10:23:17
TiN_EE

Hey, what's with all this naming, it's not SR-3. What is "3" ? :D
Board will have similar but other name.

Also I don't see any problems for memory slots amount. Because of tight space constrains slave CPU have only 4 slots, but both CPUs still have fully functional quad channel. First cpu just have two dimms per each channel, as you see on pic. Still more than enough to fit 96 GB of memory

 
It's not a "problem" really, it just doesn't look as nice as if it had the same amount per CPU. I know some people will not care about aesthetics, but it matters to some of us.
thegreatga
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 12:17:06
I'm looking at the picture and wondering how to power this beast, i see the 24 pin connector but also 5 additional power connectors.  I'm also wondering where all the heat is going looking at the classified board you see several heat sinks but none on this board.  I wouldn't be surprised if this was a water cooled board straight from the box being how the new chipsets are very power intensive.
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 16:14:26
I guess it can be called the sr3 yet being that they havent broke any records yet (super record 3)...

My biggest question is why was it moved to the sr2 link being that it is not an sr2 and it is based off the x79 platform... Evga you boob! Lol
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 16:21:24
@ thegreatgay... This is just the board... My guess they are creating a test bench to test the board and maybe in the precoss in creating a custom cooler in optimizing cooling efficiency
farthestkris
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 16:33:22
EVGA_JacobF

Currently it is planned to be called SR-X

The dimms make it more like SR-Ugly. 
moose517
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 17:09:52
thegreatga

I'm looking at the picture and wondering how to power this beast, i see the 24 pin connector but also 5 additional power connectors.  I'm also wondering where all the heat is going looking at the classified board you see several heat sinks but none on this board.  I wouldn't be surprised if this was a water cooled board straight from the box being how the new chipsets are very power intensive.

 
2 of those 5 are the standard 8 pin CPU, the other 2 by each CPU's main is for additional CPU power for OC'ing.  The last PCIe plug on the board is if you want to use all the PCIe slots, if you only plan to use like the top 3 then you don't need it.
Bron-Yr-Aur
New Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 17:45:52
it should be called the SR-E for Super Record Epic
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 17:59:25
It's gotta break a record before it can be called SR-anything
scottalot
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 18:35:26
So what do you do with prototypes like these? I mean, you use them for testing at first... then you probably let an overclocker use it. What then? Is it put in the hall of fame?
shogon
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 19:30:21
It gets put on my wall like a big game trophy for all to see.
pyrebuilder
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/15 19:36:12
will there be a way to preorder this motherboard? i know its been done before, you pay a little bit more or just pay in advance and you get yours a day earlier or something silly, but id still like to be able to pre order it.
citizenX
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/16 03:45:13
Simply awesome
DraginElite
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/16 13:22:46
EVGA_JacobF

Currently it is planned to be called SR-X
 
I was calling it that quite a few months ago ...
 
 
DraginElite
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/16 13:23:52
Bron-Yr-Aur

it should be called the SR-E for Super Record Epic

that would be awesome for the next dual socket chipset after 2011 ... hehe
DraginElite
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/16 13:24:45
pyrebuilder

will there be a way to preorder this motherboard? i know its been done before, you pay a little bit more or just pay in advance and you get yours a day earlier or something silly, but id still like to be able to pre order it.

sign me up for that deal ... I would do it in a heart beat and have it sitting along side my SR-2
lehpron
Regular Guy
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/18 18:03:50
takuhari
My biggest question is why was it moved to the sr2 link being that it is not an sr2 and it is based off the x79 platform... Evga you boob! Lol
SR-2 used the i5520 server chipset, it didn't use the X58 chipset despite using the same LGA1366 socket.  The difference between the two is that one is meants solely for single-CPU and the other is a dual-CPU chipset.  Ergo, a dual-LGA2011 isn't using an X79 chipset, hence the move.  It uses an entirely different chipset meant solely for multi-CPU configurations.  In fact there are three chipsets for LGA2011 for single-, dual- and quad-socket. 
post edited by lehpron - 2011/11/18 18:07:48
sentient04
New Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/19 16:53:41
Does this support DDR3 memory at speeds up to 1600MHz? Will this support Xeon E5 1660? Will it support any future processors like the IVY Bridge-E or ones with more cores?
lehpron
Regular Guy
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/19 19:22:34
sentient04
Does this support DDR3 memory at speeds up to 1600MHz?
In all probability, yes, for the higher end models.  For all others, it may be 1333Mhz.  Like Nehalem, the memory controller is in the CPU, so depend on the model will tell you what the default DDR3 spec is.
 
sentient04
Will this support Xeon E5 1660?
No, the Xeon E5-2600 series are what will go in this board because they the extra QPI link enabled to communicate with the other CPU.  Current estimates for the CPU series is sometime in March 2012-- which is when I would expect EVGA's SR-X to show up.
 
Note:  EVGA may not initially test all seventeen CPUs in that link, just a few users are most likely to get first.  Intel made twenty-four Xeon 5600 series parts while EVGA initially listed about eight CPUs for SR-2 and now its up to seventeen.  The support list is just what they tested, if you want to keep your warranty, you'll be advised to get those first.
 
sentient04
Will it support any future processors like the IVY Bridge-E or ones with more cores?
There will be Ivy Bridge-EP processors for this board.  Keep in mind, these boards exist as server boards and the market is giant (bigger than desktop and laptop combined), meaning Intel will bring 22nm shrinks with more cores, at this point 10-cores are possible
post edited by lehpron - 2011/11/19 19:36:09
JinxGenius
New Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/20 05:45:07
three chipset?
 
can you list them out for me so that I can google the info? 

I'd say in order to make a "new" Super Record, please give us a chipset with quad-socket and put in four new 8-core 16-Thread CPUs
 
then 32 slot of ram should probably right...  
4GB each already makes it 128GB of ram 
 
32 Core 64 Thread 128GB here comes the Super Record 
thegreatga
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/20 11:11:07
you would setting a record to power it as well as to fitting it into one single case
ZachA
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/20 21:57:02
thegreatga

you would setting a record to power it as well as to fitting it into one single case


actyally Mountain mods has two or three cases that will support Quad socket motherboards like the AMD ones you see around the net.
robhall86
FTW Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/22 22:11:14
INFRNL

I think the ram is all shared among the 12 slots but I have no idea. It was also mentioned that they did it this way so you can use your ram from SR-2 for this board and not have to buy new ram.
It is kind of odd depending on how it works exactly, but its nice that they thought about saving us some money and not have to buy new ram. I personally cannot wait for the release

 jacob said that the reason was to make is easy on current SR-2 users.
 
after all it would suck to have 12 sticks and upgrade only to have to put 4 in storage.
 
Post 63
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?&m=1158148&mpage=3
C4PPY
New Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/25 12:57:28
Maybe a stupid/obvious question but is the SR-X gonne be HPTX or something els?
Brocasta
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/25 13:09:15
HPTX
jvaungh
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/26 11:53:00
Really, this should be called "SR-EX" or "SR-XXX"
 
 
shadow001
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/11/26 17:34:51
As an SR-2 owner, I'd think about this board only once Intel releases the ivy-bridge E series of CPU's later next year, as they'll be made at 22nm, use 30% less power because they also use intel's finfet tech( vertically stacked transistors, rather than horizontal), so that for a given overclock given that it uses less power, it's also easier to cool down, as well as the added improvement in performance from the ivy bridge architecture itself, and of course having 8 cores onboard.
 
The Xeon versions of the current sandy bridge E's, with all 8 cores enabled and still using the 32 nm process, even if they make it to 4+ Ghz on the overclocking front, are going to be using so much power to do so, that it'll become a pain to keep it cool unless you're into high end water cooling...We can forget air cooled with high overclocks, as the current list of models that will be released, already lists the highest end version as dissipating 150 watts TDP at 3.1 Ghz, so you can imagine where that TDP might end up once in the 4+ Ghz region(yikes), hence my preference to wait for the 22nm process.
 
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011102701_Prices_of_Xeon_E5-2600-series_CPUs.html ...Scroll down a bit.
 
As for the number of memory slots, i couldn't care much for the 12 slots as good DDR 3, using 4 GB modules rated at 2000 Mhz with decent timings already exists, so with 8 slots in total( 4 per CPU), that's already 32 GB of ram onboard, and the best overclocking and overall performance wil be achieved with a single module per memory channel, not 2.....Look no further than EVGA's own X79 classifieds and all of them have only 4 memory slots only and none with 8 slots.....That says plenty right there.
 
 
post edited by shadow001 - 2011/11/26 17:36:58
Rendermax
New Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/02 13:30:30
Looks tasty ! but it better support all version of ocz revo X3 and X2, because iam planing to get one :)  probably max IOPS one.
it was really disappointing that best mobo on planet (SR-2) do not boot up from fastest HDD ..
btw LOM is still slow dual 1 Gbit? or its dual 10 Gbit now?
 
 
post edited by Rendermax - 2011/12/02 13:33:57
CodePhoenix
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/03 11:41:23
On-board 10gigabit would be a bit of a waste because almost no-one has 10G switches to plug it into, or other 10G machines to communicate with. The few who do can get a 10G NIC. I think we still have a couple of years to go before 10G is widespread enough to be standard on workstations.
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/03 21:02:07
robhall86

INFRNL

I think the ram is all shared among the 12 slots but I have no idea. It was also mentioned that they did it this way so you can use your ram from SR-2 for this board and not have to buy new ram.
It is kind of odd depending on how it works exactly, but its nice that they thought about saving us some money and not have to buy new ram. I personally cannot wait for the release

jacob said that the reason was to make is easy on current SR-2 users.

after all it would suck to have 12 sticks and upgrade only to have to put 4 in storage.

Post 63
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?&m=1158148&mpage=3

I thought this system would have quad channel ram instead of tripple...
don't you have to change the ram firmware in order to do that?
lehpron
Regular Guy
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/03 22:26:00
It does have a quad-channel controller, but enabling triple is as easy as not putting in all the RAM, just factors of three instead of factors of four.  The manual will probably tell us exactly what configurations enable how many channels. 
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/03 23:00:18
Still seems kinda odd that people (such as myself) will spend thousands of dollars on these system and evga wants us to save a hundred dollars on the cheapest thing that goes into the computer... they should implement 16 dimm slots before the release of this bored. But this is not going to happen being that they haven't done so already and this bored will probably come out soon... I will probably just get the sr-2 since it will be cheaper... or nothing being that I already got a good 4way system^^* but buying new parts is an addiction>.< so Iz kantz stopz myself! lol
Brocasta
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/03 23:01:24

 
I wonder what form factor Iron Pass and Crown Pass are.
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/03 23:25:15

This new motherboard should come out in this form... but with 7pcie slots^^ maybe call it the HPTX-E lol
It has enough space for 8 dimms per gpu... can also shift it around so that there are 4dimms on each side of each gpu for less latency...
post edited by takuhari - 2011/12/03 23:30:39
cateno
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 02:06:41
this tyan for  old opteron socket F not for lga2011
th X79 is capable for 4 cpu
Brocasta
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 11:20:43
They're not going to create another, bigger form factor for the SR-X. Don't be stupid.
lehpron
Regular Guy
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 13:53:58
cateno
th X79 is capable for 4 cpu
Only one version of Patsburg is being called "X79", the rest carry the Xeon server chipset "C600 series" which are multi-CPU capable.  X79 is not multi-CPU capable, just like X58 wasn't either and there was another version of Tylersburg called "i5520" which did go in SR-2. 
 
FYI, the only Xeon E5's that could go in X79 are the E5-1600 series which are just ECC versions of the i7's in X79, but that is a big if and totally EVGA's perogative to provide support.  There is already a version of LGA1155 Xeon E3-1200's that don't go in Z68/P67, they have their own C200 series chipset boards.
 
Z68, P67 and the C200's are still all from the Cougar Point chipset.  As such, there will be many Patsburgs, X79 is just one.
post edited by lehpron - 2011/12/04 13:56:07
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 15:50:00
cateno

this tyan for  old opteron socket F not for lga2011
th X79 is capable for 4 cpu

Yeah i know... but the layout is there...
and the srx is not an x79 bored... just like the sr2 is not an x58 bored... sure they use the lga1366 and lga2011 but they both use some kind of dual cpu server chips to work... dunno what is it called... lol
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 15:55:47
Brocasta

They're not going to create another, bigger form factor for the SR-X. Don't be stupid.

 
A stupid idea is an idea never tested...
because you cant fit it into a case, doesnt mean people who uses these in a test environment wont wanna go beyond extremes...
But sure... go ahead and limit yourself because it is not conventional>.<
Brocasta
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 19:32:22
An idea doomed to fail (yet another, and bigger, form factor board that has at least $7000 worth of CPUs on board) is an idea that should not be tested. EVGA doesn't just release products for the sake of releasing them. They have to know if there is a market for the product, and a massive and, by your desire, completely proprietary board that uses E5-4600 CPUs is not exactly going to be purchased by more than 10 people. Not worth the effort. There was enough skepticism that they would try for another dual socket board after the SR-2, let alone a quad socket xeon board that would be out of the price range of nearly everybody except those that buy existing quad socket and octo socket Xeon products and systems.
 
On that note, why shouldn't EVGA do an 8 socket board? A stupid idea is an idea that isn't tested, after all!
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 20:39:23
There are always a market for bigger and better things... if there is no competition for the product with other companies, there will always be people that will go for it... Some people always want the fastest system just to be noticed...
Brocasta
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 21:37:26
I can tell that you didn't read or understand my post.
cateno
SSC Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 21:52:57
lehpron

cateno
th X79 is capable for 4 cpu
Only one version of Patsburg is being called "X79", the rest carry the Xeon server chipset "C600 series" which are multi-CPU capable.  X79 is not multi-CPU capable, just like X58 wasn't either and there was another version of Tylersburg called "i5520" which did go in SR-2. 

FYI, the only Xeon E5's that could go in X79 are the E5-1600 series which are just ECC versions of the i7's in X79, but that is a big if and totally EVGA's perogative to provide support.  There is already a version of LGA1155 Xeon E3-1200's that don't go in Z68/P67, they have their own C200 series chipset boards.

Z68, P67 and the C200's are still all from the Cougar Point chipset.  As such, there will be many Patsburgs, X79 is just one.

 
 
the X79 is in four version and one version is for 2 cpu
http://www.comptoir-hardw...1/x79_scenario_vrz.jpg
 
the SRX have minimum the T or D version for sas port fully fonctional
post edited by cateno - 2011/12/04 21:55:28
lehpron
Regular Guy
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/04 23:41:11
cateno
the X79 is in four version and one version is for 2 cpu
http://www.comptoir-hardw...1/x79_scenario_vrz.jpg
the SRX have minimum the T or D version for sas port fully fonctional
SR-X uses Patsburg-T while X79 uses Patsburg-X.  Just so you know, Tylersburg used "-S" for X58 and "-D" for i5520 (SR-2's chipset), while Intel's Skulltrail board used a Seaburg chipset.  All "-burg" chipsets are server chipsets, Intel will not call their SNB multi-socket Xeon chipsets "X79".
 
FYI, there are four Xeon E5 series coming and in two sockets (LGA1356 & LGA2011) making five combinations of boards, having five Patsburgs isn't a coincedence; one for each board.
 
takuhari
because you cant fit it into a case, doesnt mean people who uses these in a test environment wont wanna go beyond extremes...
But sure... go ahead and limit yourself because it is not conventional>.<
You're looking at this from the wrong perspective.  Products don't just exist because someone demands, products exist because enough demanded to pay for the venture.  Whatever it is must be worth a company's time and money, otherwise the customer's hopes and dreams of being different don't matter.
 
All computer components and their form factors exist because there was demand for it all throughout the development cycle and that demand continued to spawn not only that initial company's break-even, but supplied enough revenue for other companies in competition.  Non-conventional, i.e. niche, demands are so small that the only way a company can make a buck is if the unit cost is high; but not everyone demanding the product can pay that, so it becomes a casuality argument (i.e. the chicken versus the egg). 
 
Many times people think the reasons certain products don't exist is because of technology or capability-- no, it is usually a Return-On-Investment issue:  The demand doesn't equal the cost to make it.  There needs to be more demand, either more customers or they each need to pay more.  Most customers use their computers for something, they aren't just building it which is a tiny fraction of the time they put it while using the machine.  Something proprietary or unconventional is a risk that can cost money and time, especially in service costs.  To reduce the guesswork, folks they will go for something that falls within an already existing standard.  Hence SR-X reusing SR-2's form factor. 
 
That doesn't mean you can't still get whatever you want that already exists; if you're willing to drop $2000 on an Intel quad-socket board along with four processors cost $4000+ each, go for it.   If you want an overclockable quad-socket board (which means you're willing to pay the 20-50% premium to get it done), you got to understand, this isn't about you.  This is about not having enough of people like you to bother making it in the first place.
post edited by lehpron - 2011/12/05 00:55:52
Wryknow
New Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/05 11:19:50
SR-X , as in Super Record eXpensive :)
takuhari
iCX Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/05 16:41:42
A good idea for the next gen bored is optical...
make the buses optical buses... this will make it so that there is no magnetic interference between the bus wires and it will make pciex16 a thing of the past. bus speeds are limited by magnetic interference so this would be a good solution for top SR-quality^^ Only the wires in for emitter and receiver power is needed... this is will not be limited. Standard buses in systems is too slow for future architecture designs.... just sayin
prometheus_32
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/06 20:57:21
* insert drool here*
 
yup, so far so good just gotta wait for it to drop lol just like BF3 and MW3 :P
rottenmutt
Superclocked Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/07 14:57:53
Please post a link to the block diagram.
Xavier Zepherious
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
Re:eVGA SR-3 2011/12/07 17:02:58
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