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2010/01/17 00:04:59 (permalink)
Since a few have been *ahem*  asking me for it, finally got up off my dead behind and took some pictures!


As far as performance goes it keeps my i7 920 @ 16C idle temps, and load temps are 38C (with linX).  (there is also a single 295 connected with the CPU block in parallel connections)  The CPU block is a special block that I will post pictures of in the near future-once it has been fully tested.

Yes the room is a MESS, and that 1KW antec is running nothing but those 2 fans for the bong cooler.  I will probably type more tomorrow, its 3 am and I am beat.  The bucket that the cooler is sitting in is just an insurance policy.  That other do-hicky to the left of the bong, is 1 of my chillers.  Its the one that gets super cold.

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    Re:My 7' tall BONG COOLER 2010/01/17 00:07:52 (permalink)
    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Towerat first I thought ( WTH ) it was a sewer drain in the middle of the room!!

    ya, tomorrow if you can post more close up photo that would be cool!!!

    and details on how it worked!!

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 00:08:59 (permalink)
    Cool. One question tho. Where's the bowl?

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 00:12:11 (permalink)
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    Cool. One question tho. Where's the bowl?


    i would like to know as well


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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 00:25:21 (permalink)
    man, don't you guys sleep?!  The bottom is full of water, almost up to the fans.  I guess you could call that the bowl.
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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 09:10:04 (permalink)
    They were trying to be funny ala cheech and chong....

    Man, you sure do work it , Nate...Great Job! 

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 10:00:11 (permalink)
    I lost all the pictures to make a how-to guide including all the picture of individual parts from a corrupt SD card.  I wish I knew how to get those pictures back
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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 10:01:35 (permalink)
    As per usual Nateman you never fail to impress Thanks for sharing

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 11:43:56 (permalink)
    awsome and inspiring I saw in one of your posts a while back that you have a humidity monitor how much has that gone up. What sort of pump do you have running that monster??
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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 13:50:07 (permalink)
    Nice! How loud is it?

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 14:22:00 (permalink)
    This is cool and everything, but it's not a bong until you can get it to make coffee!

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 17:57:14 (permalink)
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    Nice! How loud is it?


    VERY loud.  like rain forest loud (without all the tropical birds)
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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 18:25:59 (permalink)
    DANG!!!!!!!!!!! now thats a BONG!
     
    looks good Nate.......
     
    +1 for more pictures!
     

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 19:13:37 (permalink)
    VERY loud.  like rain forest loud (without all the tropical birds)


    That is one reason they still use cast iron and the other being the fire rating.. you could make that out of copper if you knew how to work it and they still make brass dwv fittings..
     
    Also are you pushing air in or pulling out? is the top open for air to rise and vent off the heat?
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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 21:24:05 (permalink)
    I'll admit, I've heard about these for years, but not for one second did I figure out how these work...

    Now though it seems pretty straight forward:  The nozzle up top functions like a radiator, thinning out the water so heat can escape easier, similar to the effect of an atomizer.  In fact, the smaller the droplet, the the closer to ambient the water gets (but puts pressure on the pump to maintain head), and the length of the bong can be shorter.  Downside is of course the evaporation rate goes up versus a relatively closed loop LCS, resulting in a humid room.  I suppose fully optimized, you won't need the fans; this has the potential of being a passive silent LCS.

    Good job on implimentation nateman_doo, I'm kinda of curious about it now (if it can be made silent).

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 21:56:20 (permalink)
    thanks gents.  What would help would be one of those low water shower heads that mist the water, but that requires a much heavier duty pump.  Traditional shower heads make the water more of a stream, and while the water is falling it sorta breaks up into droplets.  With the mist happening immediately up towards the top, it would cool much more when it got towards the bottom.  the fans are blowing into the core, and vent out the top.  There is so much air flow from the fans, that it slows the  flow of the liquid flowing. 



    As you can see I just made removable fans that just slide in there so I can add liquid quickly.  You can see the water leve in the opening.  The pump is a tiny 350 gph pond pump.  It is garbage.  the swiftech MCP 655 pump ate it for lunch and launches the water through the ENTIRE system, AND the 7 foot tall cooler.  I plan on getting a much more powerful pump for this project and perhaps a much more fine mist shower head or even garden hose attachment?

    as for making that out of copper, do you have any idea how much a 6" by 7 foot tall copper pipe would cost?!
    heh... more then the computer probably. 

    you really don't have to have a humid room at all, as you can vent the top of the tube outside the house, and to further decrease temps, I could port air from outside into the fans with dryer duct.  If I insulate the pipe, it would probably be much quiter, but then it would more then double the cost of the project. 

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 22:18:45 (permalink)
    Here is a view of the crappy pump.  But I hope this helps to see how ridiculously easy this project is to do.  I kind of went overboard with the glue, but I have had WAY to many leaks/spills with my chiller so I also put the entire thing into a small plastic tub thingy.  This is all with 6" pipe. 


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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 23:10:49 (permalink)
    Looks good nate. Tell me what you think of this design.
     

     
    My idea is that sense there was a problem with evaporation which thene foems into condesation, why not close off the only real avenue it has which is out the top. Set up a cross over to another pipe which has a fan blowing down the pipe. This way any water evaporating will channel to the other pipe, get cooled bay the fan, then be recycled back down to the resevoir. The midst from the shower head going down the main pipe will of course be cooled by the fans positioned close to the shower head and also close to the bottom like yours but also by the fan at the top of the second pipe as it sends its air down the pipe with cooled condesated water.
     
    I know it sounds crazy but looks to me to be very functional in it's design and purpose. So what you think?

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 23:25:53 (permalink)
    I really like the idea of recycling the evaporated liquid!  I am having difficulty seeing what each fan is doing, as in blowing into the tube, or pulling out.

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    Re:My 7' tall BONG COOLER 2010/01/17 23:46:03 (permalink)
    All fans blow in. Top fan main pipe hits water as it first comes out of shower head. As it falls any water that may evaporate at top will be pulled by vacume created by fan at top of second pipe which is blowing down the pipe causing the air preasure above the fan to be lower than the air preasure blow the fan. This is where the vacume occurs pulling the evaporated water through. As it hits the air blown in by the fan it then condesates and is pushed down the pipe where it meets in with the first pipe. You can place it's entry above the second fan of the main pipe or below. By placing it above the second fan you will allow both the water from the second pipe as well as the main pipe to recieve a second level of cooling before re-entering the resevoir. By placing it's entry below the second fan then it will simply drop to the resevoir. Either way condesation is not caused simply recycled.
     
    As for noise, any noise produced will be dampened by the loop at the top so most of the sound will move down and be dampened by the water in the resevoir.

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 23:52:50 (permalink)
    Err, Shock - I thought the point of the bong cooler was evaporative cooling.
    Wouldnt this screw up the cooling?

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/17 23:59:06 (permalink)
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    Err, Shock - I thought the point of the bong cooler was evaporative cooling.
    Wouldnt this screw up the cooling?

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    Acually no. Evaporation is allowed to occur but rather than it going out the top and condesating in the room or where ever, you are redirecting the evaporated water to another channel where it is then allowed to condesate to which it is then simply directed back to the main resevoir where it then can do the same thing all over again.

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/18 09:34:18 (permalink)
    Er um hate to poke anyone with a stick but fius is right.

    An evaporative cooler depends upon the liquid to increase its volume (evaporate) by absorbing the heat.
    Then as the heat is radiated (Cooled) the liquid re condenses.
    Without that critical phase ,you only have a very large water cooler.

    This is the exact same principal as refrigeration ,though using H20 as the refrigerant ,and the waterpump as the compressor...

    You will never reach Sub ambient temps with out the critical step of MASS evaporation open to the atmosphere.

    Not to say your bong wont cool ,just not as well as it could.

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/18 10:47:13 (permalink)
    So. Explain to me how if the evaporation process is allowed to occur but instead of allowing the evaporated water to escape to the atmophere and condesate some where else when it cools, how does pulling the evaporated water into a seperate chamber, allowing it to condensate and then recycling the cooled evaporated water back into the loop, cause the concept to be broken. Evaporation is allowed to occur. Isn't that the whole theory behind this. As long as evaporation is allowed to occur, what is done with the evaporated water after it is vented out has no affect on the rest of the process.

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/18 10:50:21 (permalink)
    I have been staring at your design all morning and I think it could work.  If the "collector" pipe we can call it, (the one on the right) is open at the bottom, and allows the air to escape, but collects the water in the bottom pool, there is no reason it wont work. 
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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/18 11:01:58 (permalink)
    That would work also. If you drop the collector pipe straight down into the res but not all the way into the water itself, then the air will be allowed to escape relieving any possible air pressure building up, but allowing the already condesated water to drop into the res. Simply have the cover on the res slightly ventalated to allow air to move out also.

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/18 12:46:31 (permalink)
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    All fans blow in. 
    In a seal volume, getting circulation from all fans blowing in is impossible; otherwise you're just increasing the pressure inside, but the fans aren't that powerful.
     
    There may need to be a heat exchanger type setup with multiple cavities, such that an outflow of air can exist but not interacting with evaporated water-air mixture.  If perfectly sealed with no circulation, the warm water droplets from the shower wouldn't loose heat as it travels to the bottom, except only via the bong tube itself.  To condense the evaporated air -- like a really large heatpipe -- there would need to be a soruce of cool.  Imagine a large bong loop, where one of the bing tubes ran outside or underground, to dissipate that heat.
     
    The pump prior to the shower head should be closest to it, so the shower recieves the highest water pressure and isn't fighting gravity tot get it up there.  That way you can get a shower head with a finer mist.

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/18 13:00:29 (permalink)
    I didnt mean to stir the s*** stick.

    If anyone wanted to give this a try, I would be interested in the results.

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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/18 13:25:35 (permalink)
    there is no $hit stick?  Just throwing ideas at each other.  I like the idea, but great pains must be taken to recycle the water, when I could just turn the tap on and fill it up every so often. 

    My particular problem with this cooler is my pressure,  I don't get droplets at all.  It seems like a column of water coming down the pipe.  so the water has less surface area (being a single stream vs many droplets) to cool by. 

    I will say 16°C on a waterblock that is also buried under over an inch of insulation on all sides of it, isn't bad at all.  Also, I have the north bridge, vregs, southbridge, and a 295 in the line as well.  But there are 2 triple rads, and a double rad all in this mix as well. 

    I am re-building my double bay res, because the 2 pumps were a bit much pressure then the box was designed for.  the seam split and water was spewing at rather far.  The top of the res is always (for me) the hardest to seal, because as I am building it, I can get the glue on both sides of each joint for all panels, except the final panel. 
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    Re:My 7' Tall Evaporative Water Cooling Tower 2010/01/18 13:30:25 (permalink)
    Ok so If I under stand this right, the actual evaporation is causes by the fans at the bottom forcing air UP the bong going against the flow of the droplets an causing some of it to evaporate, thus cool?

    If I understand that correctly there would be some problems with ShockTheMonkeys design mainly being that with the placements of the top fan and the side collector pipe stopping the needed upwards airflow. But that only if I understand how a normal bong cooler works.

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