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2011/05/15 11:12:35 (permalink)
Hello everyone,
 
this week I've bought a GTX 460 2WIN for my mITX gaming system but it seems as if I can't get the card to work.
The system boots up into Windows but I don't get any feedback to the display, it just remains black. All fans from the card are working and the EVGA logo lights up.
 
What I tried till now:
- tried all display ports
- used a different PSU
- used an other system with an SLI mainboard
- did a CMOS reset
 
Here my mITX system:
- Phenom II X6 2,8GHz
- 8GB DDR3 SODIMM
- Asus M4A88T-I Deluxe
- Enermax 600Watt 80Plus Gold PSU with 50A on 12V
 
Other system:
- QX6850
- Asus P5N32E-SLI
- 4GB DDR2
- Seasonic X650
 
Information about the card:
P/N: 02G-P3-1387-KR
S/N:(EDITED OUT)
 
Is there any chance to get the card working or is it just dead?!  
 
Thanks for your help  and regards from Germany,
Löschzwerg
post edited by EVGATech_MatthewH - 2011/05/15 12:07:25
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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/15 12:06:52 (permalink)
    Hi Löschzwerg and welcome to EVGA Forums
     
    Have you tried with another  VGA card in these two systems, I know it's a basic questions, but sometimes such basics can solve issues and find them as well
     
    Have you also tried other DVI connectors on the card even including it's mini HDMI connector to get display also?
     
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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/15 12:12:59 (permalink)
    Surely 600w isn't enough to run the card, at least a 700/750 is needed

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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/15 12:38:18 (permalink)
    Löschzwerg

    Hello everyone,

    this week I've bought a GTX 460 2WIN for my mITX gaming system but it seems as if I can't get the card to work.
    The system boots up into Windows but I don't get any feedback to the display, it just remains black. All fans from the card are working and the EVGA logo lights up.

    What I tried till now:
    - tried all display ports
    - used a different PSU
    - used an other system with an SLI mainboard
    - did a CMOS reset

    Here my mITX system:
    - Phenom II X6 2,8GHz
    - 8GB DDR3 SODIMM
    - Asus M4A88T-I Deluxe
    - Enermax 600Watt 80Plus Gold PSU with 50A on 12V

    Other system:
    - QX6850
    - Asus P5N32E-SLI
    - 4GB DDR2
    - Seasonic X650

    Information about the card:
    P/N: 02G-P3-1387-KR
    S/N: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Is there any chance to get the card working or is it just dead?!  

    Thanks for your help  and regards from Germany,
    Löschzwerg

    First of all, your SLI system's pci-e X-16 slots are not 2.0 compatible. Sometimes cards work in the older slot type, others no. So that isn't a good test of the card. Can you try it in a friend's up to date system?
    (In Novermber, my old mobo, an ECS 945, wouldn't see the card as a 450, but would send default windows video through it. Driver install said no Nvidia product detected. Messed with it for a month, finally killed it with an incorrect bios update. Current board saw it immediately).
    Did you set up your iTX's bios to start video in pci-e, instead of onboard, or pci?
    post edited by HotRodPolk - 2011/05/15 12:55:18

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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/16 00:26:44 (permalink)
    Hey Gold Leader,
    yes, I've tried an other VGA (my GTX 470 works like a charm) and also did test all video outputs.
     
    @random_matt: Trust me, it is enough ;) EVGA says the whole systems needs 700Watt and 46A (12V rail), my Modu87+ provides 50A on 12V. Also those requirements are far away from real world power consumption and made for users with low quality PSUs.
     
    @HotRodPolk:
    Yep, ITX IGP is disabled and bios set to use PCIe graphics first. Sadly none of my friends does have a PCIe 2.0 SLI mainboard :( But I might test the card at work.
    My GTX470 works in both mainboards. But no matter how, the card should work without an SLI mainboard.
     
    Thx for your replys guys :) Any other ideas?
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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/16 03:08:12 (permalink)
    you could ask evga or asus, no idea how long asus will take to reply. If there anything like msi, there both based in taiwan, you don't get a reply for ages

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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/16 03:20:03 (permalink)
    You think it could be a mainboard problem? How about changing the PCIe frequency?
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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/16 04:20:08 (permalink)
    When I first plugged mine into the system I had the same issue, the I switched to the DVI that sits alone in the second slot and the card worked fine and I've had no issues since that time.  I would suggest going to the support area and opening an item.  The support staff is usually very responsive.


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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/16 04:50:28 (permalink)
    his PSU should be fine although more power wattage is never a bad thing, I ran 2-Way SLI GTX 480's on my Antec Quattro 850 without issues but Expect this Dual GF114 based VGA cards do fine with a good 600 watt PSU, since this card should use less that two 480's I'd assume, if not, then EVGA and NVIDIA did something terribly wrong with the card's power management system, also something I guess they did think about.
     
    @ HotRodPunk
     
    As for PCI-E 1.0 & 1.1 x16 slots this should not matter, every PCI-E 2.0 VGA card is 100% backwards compliant with these older PCI-Express variants, I had two EVGA GTX 295 RE's in Quad SLI over 32 PCI-E 1.1 lanes as where these were clearly PCI-E 2.0 cards, difference is near to nothing, good marketing that's truly it.
     
    Like this article clearly explains:
     
    http://www.techpowerup.co...0_PCI-Express_Scaling/
     
    "It should also be noted that PCI-Express 2.0 doubles the bandwidth available per lane. So if you read about PCI-E x8 2.0 in this review, these results are representative of a PCI-E x16 link in 1.1 mode - like on many old motherboard. Another important point to make is that PCI-Express is forward and backwards compatible.
     
    You can run any PCI-E 1.x card in a 2.0 slot or any 2.0 card in any 1.x slot, with reduced bandwidth of course.
     
    Our PCI-Express 2.0 x8 results can also be used to judge PCI-Express 1.1 x16 performance (which offers the exact same bandwidth). Many motherboards using older chipsets such as Intel P35, NVIDIA nForce 680 SLI, etc, have only support for version 1.1 of the PCI-Express interface.

    That it did. NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 480 is a very fast graphics processor. To maintain its speeds, it would hypothetically require high system bandwidth, leading one to think that lesser PCI-Express configurations would cripple it. The theory couldn't be more wrong, as seen by the mere 2% performance loss going from x16 to x8 (which reduces bandwidth by 50%). To cite results from one of the latest and resource-heavy games in our bench, Collin McRae DiRT 2, that translates into something like 63.2 FPS vs. 62.1 FPS, at 2560 x 1600 pixels resolution - barely a difference.
     
    You shouldn't be worried about using these cards on a PCI-E 1.1 motherboard, either."
    post edited by Gold Leader - 2011/05/16 04:52:43


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    Re:GTX 460 2WIN black screen 2011/05/16 08:10:07 (permalink)
    Ok, good news everybody. Got the card to show a picture! I replugged the card into the SLI board and connected it to the "lonely" DVI port (thx DeepPurple23 :)), aaaaaaand it works ^^
     
    Now I will put the card back to my mITX system and let you know ;)
     
    Edit:
    Ok, the card now works in my mITX board but I having problems with the SLI...
     

    Hi there,
     
    I'm having the same problem with my GTX 460 2WIN. My mainboard is an Asus M4A88T-i Deluxe, it uses an 880G chipset from AMD.
     
    Had problems to get card working but it now works with DVI output 2 but only 1 GPU gets active when rendering a game/benchmark.
     
    Bot GPUs are identified by the driver. I'm using the latest Nvidia driver (270.61).
     
    I don't think that your card is broken, I think it's a chipset problem.
     
    Will try an SLI patch for AMD boards.
     
    So long,
    Löschzwerg
     
    Edit:
    Ok I applied the SLI patch from slipatch.com and was able to activate SLI in the drivers options menu. Now the problem is that the card remains in the lowest clock frequencies... With SLI deactivated the working GPU runs with max clock frequency!!!
     
    Please EVGA help with this problem!!! I haven't payed 380€ for a half working card

     
    The problem is discussed over here => http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=993982
     
    This topic here can be closed!
    post edited by Löschzwerg - 2011/05/16 10:58:57
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