EVGA

*Club i7 Stability Continuation*

Page: << < ..2627282930.. > >> Showing page 27 of 37
Author
Post
Essentials Only Full Version
expedision
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2202
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/02/21 08:17:04
  • Location: In a galaxly far far away
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 8
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/11 10:48:16 (permalink)
chememan

Expedision, on your 4.4 clock, are you running the memory at 8x or 10x?


Uncore is at (x18) and memory at 8x. Ram is at 1680Mhz 7-7-6-20.

 
HAF 922
Win7 64 bit
Classified 760 
980X @ 4.5 24/7 
Antec TPQ-1200 psu
Evga GTX 470 TRI SLI 
Prolimatech Megahalem
Mushkin Redlines 2000Mhz 
Intel X-25m G2 160Gb SSD
Raptor 150 gb for storage
32" Toshiba  1920 x 1080p     

  




 
#781
slagar
iCX Member
  • Total Posts : 393
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/09/04 13:41:58
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 5
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/12 07:00:20 (permalink)
Core i7 920 D0/A @ 4Ghz
CPU voltage: I .95v  L 1.25v
QPI/DRAM 1.25v
Temps: Min 33-31-32-29 Max 68-68-65-64
RAM: 1524Mhz 7-7-7-20-1t 1.61v

EDIT: what's the image code? EVGA's auto thing isn't working.

Heatware
#782
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/13 08:22:31 (permalink)
gutcheck

Bah!!!!!!!!!!

I got an error on the 20th loop.  Temps not so offensive though.


If you're getting an error that late into it, you're probably fine for gaming. Trouble with stress testing is that it'll stress well beyond what any game or daily non-critical task will ever do. If you can pass Vantage successfully in multiple runs, then run with it, or back it down a hair if you're uncomfortable.

On another note, I'd like to start seeing some templates (will post mine here shortly) as in my own testing I'm solid as a rock at 4.0 GHz, but when attempting 4.1 or 4.2 it's BSOD (0x00000124 mostly) city so I'm in the process of trying different BIOSs. If anyone can share their experiences with what BIOS performed better for oc'ing, I'd be grateful.

Ok here's my template:

Governator’s current BIOS template as of 02/14/09 (solid at 4.105 GHz)

Mother Board ( EVGA X58 Classified E760 )                                                       
Drivers ( 9.1.1.1025 )
Bios ( S61J )                                                                                                     
CPU ( 920 D0 3941B075 )                     
CPU Cooler ( Corsair H50 )
Memory (Corsair Dominator GT 1866 C7)
PSU ( Corsair TX850W )
GPU ( 2x XFX 4890 Extremes @  875/975 )
Drivers ( ATI Catalyst 10.1 )                                                                                                  
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate )


Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )                                                                                         
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 196 )                                                                      
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 17x )                                                
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency ( 101 )  If using SSDs, Check with your SSD manufacturer before raising above 100.

Memory Feature        
Memory Speed ( Standard )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1067Mhz / 2:8 )                                                                
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )
tCL Setting ( 7 ) 
tRCD Setting ( 8 )
tRP Setting ( 7 )
tRAS Setting ( 20 )
tRFC Setting ( 103 )
Command Rate ( 1t )


Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.350v )                                                                                                
CPU VTT Voltage ( 1.300v, or +100 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.425v  )
**IOH PLL VCore ( 1.425v) 
DIMM Voltage ( 1.70v ) 
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.400 )  Thanks for the suggestion on this one, will be doing more testing and will lower some.
IOH VCore ( 1.200 )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )
**BR04 ( NF200) Voltage ( 1.40 ) (only on E-759)
**VTT PWM Frequency ( 610 KHZ )
**CPU PWM Frequency ( 1333 KHZ)
**CPU Impedance ( Less )
**QPI Signal Compensation ( Less )
ICH VCore ( 1.050 “Auto” )
*PWM Frequency ( Not Used on Classified )


CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.800 GT/s )
OC Recovery ( Disabled )
Turbo Performance ( N/A )  {Intro’d in BIOS 43 beta & 44 Official)

PnP/PCI     PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( 2048 )

Power Management Setup
ACPI Suspend Type ( S1 POS )   
HPET Support ( Enabled )
HPET Mode ( 64-bit )
post edited by Governator - 2010/02/14 14:11:46

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#783
awalleyeguy
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3444
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/10/27 09:21:56
  • Location: Next door to Elvis
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 12
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 02:53:00 (permalink)
johnksss

hummmm... so no batch 39 i7-920's above 4.6 ghz.....as of yet....4/8


awalleyeguy
Core i7: 920 D0 Batch #:  3912B160
4608Mhz
Voltage: 1.568 W-vdroop
  min temps:  45/42/45/40
 max  temps: 90/85/85/79                                                                                                                                                                                           This is my  air cooled rig, doesn't see much bench or stress time. SimC33 please post this one also, but do not get rid of my others. Thanks.
post edited by awalleyeguy - 2010/02/14 02:57:44

Attached Image(s)



HEAT  

url=https://www.evga.com/associates/default.aspx?associatecode=U4WBM7JX3CJE24C][/url]
#784
awalleyeguy
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3444
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/10/27 09:21:56
  • Location: Next door to Elvis
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 12
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 12:51:09 (permalink)
Governator




If you're getting an error that late into it, you're probably fine for gaming. Trouble with stress testing is that it'll stress well beyond what any game or daily non-critical task will ever do. If you can pass Vantage successfully in multiple runs, then run with it, or back it down a hair if you're uncomfortable.

On another note, I'd like to start seeing some templates (will post mine here shortly) as in my own testing I'm solid as a rock at 4.0 GHz, but when attempting 4.1 or 4.2 it's BSOD (0x00000124 mostly) city so I'm in the process of trying different BIOSs. If anyone can share their experiences with what BIOS performed better for oc'ing, I'd be grateful.

Ok here's my template:

Governator’s current BIOS template (solid at 4.0GHz)

Mother Board ( EVGA X58 Classified E760 )                                                       
Drivers ( 9.1.1.1025 )
Bios ( S61B )                                                                                                     
CPU ( 920 D0 3941B075 )                     
CPU Cooler ( Corsair H50 )
Memory (Corsair Dominator GT 1866 C7)
PSU ( Corsair TX850W )
GPU ( 2x XFX 4890 Extremes @  875/975 )
Drivers ( ATI Catalyst 10.1 )                                                                                                  
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate )


Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )                                                                                         
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 191 )                                                                      
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 21x ) If you are going to run at 21x you will need even more Vtt than you are currently at, set to auto/20 This is most likely  why you can not go to 4.1 and above stable.                                               
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 101 ) If using SSDs, Check with your SSD manufacturer before raising above 100.

Memory Feature        
Memory Speed ( Standard )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1333Mhz / 2:10 )                                                                
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )
tCL Setting ( 7 )  Though only by a little you are exceeding MFR speed try loosening to see if fixes bsod, or bump up mem voltage.
tRCD Setting ( 8 )
tRP Setting ( 7 )
tRAS Setting ( 24 )
tRFC Setting ( 103 )
Command Rate ( 1t )


Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.300v )                                                                                                
CPU VTT Voltage ( 1.500v, or +300 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.35v  ) Try bumping this up to like 1.425
**IOH PLL VCore ( 1.35v) Ditto
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65v ) Bump this up since you are exceeding mem speed with 7-8-7 timings
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.400 )  This I do not think has to be anywhere near this high my 4.8 stable was set at 1.250, 1.300 will cause bsod for me
IOH VCore ( 1.100 “Auto” ) may not be necessary but will not hurt to increase a little
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto ) ditto 1 nothch for every 2 on IOH
**BR04 ( NF200) Voltage ( 1.40 ) (only on E-759)
**VTT PWM Frequency ( 610 KHZ )
**CPU PWM Frequency ( 1333 KHZ)
**CPU Impedance ( Less )
**QPI Signal Compensation ( Less )
ICH VCore ( 1.050 “Auto” )
*PWM Frequency ( Not Used on Classified )


CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.800 GT/s )
OC Recovery ( Disabled )
Turbo Performance ( Enabled )  {Intro’d in BIOS 43 beta & 44 Official)

PnP/PCI     PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( 128; only option with S610 BIOS, otherwise I choose 2048 )

Power Management Setup
ACPI Suspend Type ( S1 POS )   
             Above suggestions are all speculation of course.




HEAT  

url=https://www.evga.com/associates/default.aspx?associatecode=U4WBM7JX3CJE24C][/url]
#785
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4673
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
  • Location: Orange County, California
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 13:04:52 (permalink)
great job awalleyeguy
was it fairly easy for you? because i have been having quite the time doing it.

MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X  | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition


HWBOT-PROFILE
#786
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 13:18:16 (permalink)
Governator
Core i7 920 D0 / Batch# 3941B075
CPU @ 4.105 GHz  ( HT On )
VCORE: 1.350  w/o VDROOP
Idle temps: 27,23,28,25
Load temps: 83,82,79,80




http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1896046
post edited by Governator - 2010/02/15 07:09:13

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#787
awalleyeguy
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3444
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/10/27 09:21:56
  • Location: Next door to Elvis
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 12
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 13:19:38 (permalink)
johnksss

great job awalleyeguy
was it fairly easy for you? because i have been having quite the time doing it.


No it was not easy, being on air temps were getting out of control, 4.5 piece of cake 4.6 royal PITA.


HEAT  

url=https://www.evga.com/associates/default.aspx?associatecode=U4WBM7JX3CJE24C][/url]
#788
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4673
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
  • Location: Orange County, California
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 13:33:08 (permalink)
yeah, that's what i meant.. the 4.6 part.
i could grab 4.5 all day long with out really doing anything..but that damn 4.6 caused me many lost hours of benching...lol

great run govenator!

MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X  | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition


HWBOT-PROFILE
#789
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 13:38:42 (permalink)
johnksss

yeah, that's what i meant.. the 4.6 part.
i could grab 4.5 all day long with out really doing anything..but that damn 4.6 caused me many lost hours of benching...lol

great run govenator!


Thanks John, was good chatting with you the other night too, must do again soon

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#790
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 13:48:40 (permalink)
awalleyeguy

Governator




If you're getting an error that late into it, you're probably fine for gaming. Trouble with stress testing is that it'll stress well beyond what any game or daily non-critical task will ever do. If you can pass Vantage successfully in multiple runs, then run with it, or back it down a hair if you're uncomfortable.

On another note, I'd like to start seeing some templates (will post mine here shortly) as in my own testing I'm solid as a rock at 4.0 GHz, but when attempting 4.1 or 4.2 it's BSOD (0x00000124 mostly) city so I'm in the process of trying different BIOSs. If anyone can share their experiences with what BIOS performed better for oc'ing, I'd be grateful.

Ok here's my template:

Governator’s current BIOS template (solid at 4.0GHz)

Mother Board ( EVGA X58 Classified E760 )                                                       
Drivers ( 9.1.1.1025 )
Bios ( S61B )                                                                                                     
CPU ( 920 D0 3941B075 )                     
CPU Cooler ( Corsair H50 )
Memory (Corsair Dominator GT 1866 C7)
PSU ( Corsair TX850W )
GPU ( 2x XFX 4890 Extremes @  875/975 )
Drivers ( ATI Catalyst 10.1 )                                                                                                  
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate )


Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )                                                                                         
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 191 )                                                                      
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 21x ) If you are going to run at 21x you will need even more Vtt than you are currently at, set to auto/20 This is most likely  why you can not go to 4.1 and above stable.                                               
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency ( 101 ) If using SSDs, Check with your SSD manufacturer before raising above 100.

Memory Feature        
Memory Speed ( Standard )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1333Mhz / 2:10 )                                                                
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )
tCL Setting ( 7 )  Though only by a little you are exceeding MFR speed try loosening to see if fixes bsod, or bump up mem voltage.
tRCD Setting ( 8 )
tRP Setting ( 7 )
tRAS Setting ( 24 )
tRFC Setting ( 103 )
Command Rate ( 1t )


Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.300v )                                                                                                
CPU VTT Voltage ( 1.500v, or +300 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.35v  ) Try bumping this up to like 1.425
**IOH PLL VCore ( 1.35v) Ditto
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65v ) Bump this up since you are exceeding mem speed with 7-8-7 timings
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.400 )  This I do not think has to be anywhere near this high my 4.8 stable was set at 1.250, 1.300 will cause bsod for me
IOH VCore ( 1.100 “Auto” ) may not be necessary but will not hurt to increase a little
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto ) ditto 1 nothch for every 2 on IOH
**BR04 ( NF200) Voltage ( 1.40 ) (only on E-759)
**VTT PWM Frequency ( 610 KHZ )
**CPU PWM Frequency ( 1333 KHZ)
**CPU Impedance ( Less )
**QPI Signal Compensation ( Less )
ICH VCore ( 1.050 “Auto” )
*PWM Frequency ( Not Used on Classified )


CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.800 GT/s )
OC Recovery ( Disabled )
Turbo Performance ( Enabled )  {Intro’d in BIOS 43 beta & 44 Official)

PnP/PCI     PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( 128; only option with S610 BIOS, otherwise I choose 2048 )

Power Management Setup
ACPI Suspend Type ( S1 POS )   
             Above suggestions are all speculation of course.


Hi there awalleyeguy, thanks so much for the look over, always nice for a 2nd opinion. I noticed a few mistakes I made in that post, but have since moved to 4.105. Here's my most current template:

Governator’s current BIOS template as of 02/14/09 (solid at 4.210 GHz)

Mother Board ( EVGA X58 Classified E760 )                                                       
Drivers ( 9.1.1.1025 )
Bios ( S61J )                                                                                                     
CPU ( 920 D0 3941B075 )                     
CPU Cooler ( Corsair H50 )
Memory (Corsair Dominator GT 1866 C7)
PSU ( Corsair TX850W )
GPU ( 2x XFX 4890 Extremes @  875/975 )
Drivers ( ATI Catalyst 10.1 )                                                                                                  
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Ultimate )


Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X )                                                                                         
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 201 )                                                                      
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 17x )                                                
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency ( 101 )  If using SSDs, Check with your SSD manufacturer before raising above 100.

Memory Feature        
Memory Speed ( Standard )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1067Mhz / 2:8 )                                                                
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )
tCL Setting ( 6 ) 
tRCD Setting ( 6 )
tRP Setting ( 6 )
tRAS Setting ( 18 )
tRFC Setting ( 74 )
Command Rate ( 1t )


Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.38125v )                                                                                                
CPU VTT Voltage ( 1.300v, or +100 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.425v  )
**IOH PLL VCore ( 1.425v) 
DIMM Voltage ( 1.70v ) 
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.250 )  
IOH VCore ( 1.200 )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )
**BR04 ( NF200) Voltage ( 1.40 ) (only on E-759)
**VTT PWM Frequency ( 610 KHZ )
**CPU PWM Frequency ( 1333 KHZ)
**CPU Impedance ( Less )
**QPI Signal Compensation ( Less )
ICH VCore ( 1.050 “Auto” )
*PWM Frequency ( Not Used on Classified )


CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.800 GT/s )
OC Recovery ( Disabled )
Turbo Performance ( N/A )  {Intro’d in BIOS 43 beta & 44 Official)

PnP/PCI     PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( 2048 )

Power Management Setup
ACPI Suspend Type ( S1 POS )   
HPET Support ( Enabled )
HPET Mode ( 64-bit )
post edited by Governator - 2010/02/15 07:12:55

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#791
awalleyeguy
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3444
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/10/27 09:21:56
  • Location: Next door to Elvis
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 12
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 13:52:57 (permalink)
Good deal Governator, did the temps come down a lot with that lower Vtt?


HEAT  

url=https://www.evga.com/associates/default.aspx?associatecode=U4WBM7JX3CJE24C][/url]
#792
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 13:56:42 (permalink)
awalleyeguy

Good deal Governator, did the temps come down a lot with that lower Vtt?


Thanks and yes, they most certainly did. My goal is just 4.2 for now until I get my chiller running this Spring. BTW check out my current ambients (next to an open window ):


post edited by Governator - 2010/02/15 07:14:36

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#793
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4673
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
  • Location: Orange County, California
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 14:06:00 (permalink)
same here.

i take it you got that little issue resolved?

MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X  | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition


HWBOT-PROFILE
#794
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 14:07:52 (permalink)
johnksss

same here.

i take it you got that little issue resolved?


Um yeah I did; turned out I had the wrong RAID driver on my streamlined cd

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#795
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4673
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
  • Location: Orange County, California
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 14:11:53 (permalink)
cool deal!
sure hope it didn't take long to find that out.


say...now that your getting up in cpu mhz..are you ready to submit to hwbot yet??

MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X  | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition


HWBOT-PROFILE
#796
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 14:36:48 (permalink)
johnksss

cool deal!
sure hope it didn't take long to find that out.


say...now that your getting up in cpu mhz..are you ready to submit to hwbot yet??


I'm on it! In the meantime, I'm not sure how good these scores are but here's a quick Vantage & Super PI run I just completed:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1896046


post edited by Governator - 2010/02/14 14:44:39

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#797
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4673
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
  • Location: Orange County, California
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 14:47:11 (permalink)
how many 4890's is that?

MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X  | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition


HWBOT-PROFILE
#798
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 14:50:46 (permalink)
johnksss

how many 4890's is that?


2 in CFX @ x16, is this score any good?

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#799
johnksss
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4673
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/06/21 10:18:46
  • Location: Orange County, California
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 15:32:14 (permalink)
it's worth 2.6 points on the bot.
like 25th place or so

MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X  | I9-12900K | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 6400Mhz | 1600W EVGA T2 | EVGA 3090 K|ngP|n | Custom Water Cooling Loop | Praxis Wet Bench SX Pro - Flat Edition


HWBOT-PROFILE
#800
Governator
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 3103
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/02/04 13:29:47
  • Location: Bozeman, MT
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 3
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/14 18:18:53 (permalink)
Governator
Core i7 920 D0 / Batch# 3941B075
CPU @ 4.210 GHz  ( HT On )
VCORE: 1.38125  w/o VDROOP
Idle temps: 18,13,18,15
Load temps: 82,81,78,78



http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1948064





post edited by Governator - 2010/03/08 11:45:05

HEATWARE
 
Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi  / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)

#801
SimC33
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2480
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2009/03/31 10:38:08
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 9
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/17 21:16:40 (permalink)
*UPDATED*

Z690 DDR5 BUILD COMPLETE!


OS: W11 64
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K (OC TBD)
GPU: EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra (OC: +175/+1550/pl 85%)
Mobo: MSI Z690-A PRO
RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR5 5600MHz XMP
M.2's: Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 2280 1TB from Z690 chipset | Samsung 980PRO 1TB
CPU Cooling: MSI S360
PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000, 80+ Titanium
Case: Black Corsair 5000X RGB
Display: Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 1ms 240hz
#802
SimC33
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2480
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2009/03/31 10:38:08
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 9
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/18 13:23:18 (permalink)
I can't find my 4.4 template to save my life lol...I bumped my OC down to 4.2 and now I cant find the 4.4 and the settings for it...

I wanted to try and go past the 4.4...Now I have to do it all over again lol

Z690 DDR5 BUILD COMPLETE!


OS: W11 64
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K (OC TBD)
GPU: EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra (OC: +175/+1550/pl 85%)
Mobo: MSI Z690-A PRO
RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR5 5600MHz XMP
M.2's: Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 2280 1TB from Z690 chipset | Samsung 980PRO 1TB
CPU Cooling: MSI S360
PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000, 80+ Titanium
Case: Black Corsair 5000X RGB
Display: Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 1ms 240hz
#803
Hillguy
FTW Member
  • Total Posts : 1320
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2008/10/05 06:17:13
  • Location: Newfoundland
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 10
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/18 13:42:05 (permalink)
Screename : Hillguy
Core i7  960 D0  Batch #:  ??
CPU clocked at:  4389 Mhz
Voltage:  1.458 v  (without v droop)
Idle temps:  37 / 31 / 33 / 29
Load temps: 83 / 79 / 77 / 74
HT : on

link to full size photo   http://i539.photobucket.com/albums/ff351/hillguy_2008/X58%20Pics/20passeslinx44ghz1.jpg

 
eVGA RTX 3090 Kingpin Hydrocopper | eVGA X299 Dark | Intel i9 10980XE | Heatkiller IV CPU Block | 32 GB GSkill Trident Z 3200  | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo | Dual Corsair AX1200i PSU's | Dual Koolance RP-1000 Pumps | Dual Koolance EHX-1320 4x120mm Rads | W10 | Asus PB278Q | Acer 20" | Razer Death Stalker | Razer Death Adder | Thermaltake Armor+
#804
SimC33
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2480
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2009/03/31 10:38:08
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 9
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/18 13:50:13 (permalink)
I got ya entered on the list hillguy...congrats on that clock and look forward to MORE progress! Also, thank you for participating...


SimC

Z690 DDR5 BUILD COMPLETE!


OS: W11 64
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K (OC TBD)
GPU: EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra (OC: +175/+1550/pl 85%)
Mobo: MSI Z690-A PRO
RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR5 5600MHz XMP
M.2's: Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 2280 1TB from Z690 chipset | Samsung 980PRO 1TB
CPU Cooling: MSI S360
PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000, 80+ Titanium
Case: Black Corsair 5000X RGB
Display: Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 1ms 240hz
#805
SimC33
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2480
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2009/03/31 10:38:08
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 9
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/18 14:05:42 (permalink)
*ATTENTION EVERYONE*


Ok so I was thinking for stuff for this thread to change things and I came up with the idea of letting y'all, the ones who have made this such a successful thread, decide what we can do to it to make it into something better...I figured since we've already reached 27 pages and Im pretty sure 20 something pages on the old forums that people like to visit this page. 


So I want you all to come up with some stuff for this thread to give it a face lift and create new challenges or whatever you guys may think can make this funner and better. So let me know, you can PM me or post it here and see what others have to say, so lets hear it...What ideas yall have?


Take care everyone,


SimC






Z690 DDR5 BUILD COMPLETE!


OS: W11 64
CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K (OC TBD)
GPU: EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra (OC: +175/+1550/pl 85%)
Mobo: MSI Z690-A PRO
RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR5 5600MHz XMP
M.2's: Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 2280 1TB from Z690 chipset | Samsung 980PRO 1TB
CPU Cooling: MSI S360
PSU: Seasonic PRIME TX-1000, 80+ Titanium
Case: Black Corsair 5000X RGB
Display: Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 1ms 240hz
#806
doorules
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4504
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/12/18 02:08:14
  • Location: Newfoundland
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 21
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/19 04:24:06 (permalink)
DooRules
i7 960 DO
CPU clocked at 4.428 MHz
Vcore 1.475  w/o vdroop....with HT
Idle temps  45 40 48 40
Load Temps 88 87 85 83


#807
d.burnette
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
  • Total Posts : 5496
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/03/08 13:19:32
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 17
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/19 11:54:46 (permalink)
Ok hope I am doing this right! Just successfully completed 20 passes in LinX, yay!
 
Screename : d.burnette
Core i7  920 D0  Batch #: 3938A516
CPU clocked at:  4022 Mhz
Voltage:  1.35 v  (without v droop)
Idle temps:  34 / 35 / 33 / 33
Load temps: 82 / 85 / 79 / 78
HT : on 

 
javascript:EditorPasteHtml('')
 
 
Let me know if there is something I have not done I need to... thanks.
 
 
Below is my bios template:
 
Mother Board ( EVGA X58- 758 )
Drivers ( 9.1.1.1020 )
Bios ( SZ2Z )
CPU ( 920-DO )
CPU Cooler ( Prolimatech MegaShadow )
Memory ( Corsair Dominator GT 1600 7 7 7 20 )
PSU ( Corsair HX1000W )
GPU ( EVGA GTX260 SSC )
Drivers ( 196.21)
Operating System ( Windows 7 64 Home Premium )


Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 20x Turbo on )
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 192 )
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( 3072 { 16x } )
CPU Clock Skew ( 0 ps )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )


Memory Feature
Memory Speed ( Standard )
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 1531 mhz / 2:8 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )
tCL Setting ( 7 )
tRCD Setting ( 7 )
tRP Setting ( 7 )
tRAS Setting ( 20 )
tRFC Setting ( 74 )
Command Rate ( 1t )


Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without Vdroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.35v )
CPU VTT Voltage ( +225 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.65v )
**IOH PLL VCore ( N/A )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65v )
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0mV )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.3v )
IOH VCore ( 1.3v )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto- 1.50v )
**BR04 ( NF200) Voltage ( N/A )
**VTT PWM Frequency ( N/A )
**CPU PWM Frequency ( N/A )
**CPU Impedance ( N/A )
**QPI Signal Compensation ( N/A)
ICH VCore ( Auto- 1.05v )
*PWM Frequency ( 800 khz )


CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Enabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Enabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( Auto )
OC Recovery ( Disabled )

PnP/PCI PCI Express
Maximum Payload Size ( 128 )

Power Management Setup
ACPI Suspend Type ( S3 )
HPET Support ( Enabled )
HPET Mode (64 bit )


 
post edited by d.burnette - 2010/02/19 17:04:40

Attached Image(s)


Don 
 
 
EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.2 GHz all cores | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3200 MHz CL14 DDR4 Ram | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | EVGA T2 Titanium 1000w Power Supply | Samsung 970 Pro 1TB m.2 Nvme | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB m.2 Nvme | Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SATA SSD | EVGA DG 87 Case |
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
#808
expedision
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 2202
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/02/21 08:17:04
  • Location: In a galaxly far far away
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 8
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/19 13:55:46 (permalink)
Don... Glad to see you you made it

 
HAF 922
Win7 64 bit
Classified 760 
980X @ 4.5 24/7 
Antec TPQ-1200 psu
Evga GTX 470 TRI SLI 
Prolimatech Megahalem
Mushkin Redlines 2000Mhz 
Intel X-25m G2 160Gb SSD
Raptor 150 gb for storage
32" Toshiba  1920 x 1080p     

  




 
#809
slagar
iCX Member
  • Total Posts : 393
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2007/09/04 13:41:58
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 5
Re:*Club i7 Stability Continuation* 2010/02/19 13:59:14 (permalink)
Thanks for the answer I love the help I received 

Heatware
#810
Page: << < ..2627282930.. > >> Showing page 27 of 37
Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile