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2020/03/25 08:37:39 (permalink)
hello
 
I am going to be installing my new GPU in a little while and I would like to know what I need to do to make it work correctly. I am going from an AMD GPU to a Nvidia EVGA one.
 
skip ahead to after the new one is in the computer.
 
thank you

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/25 11:11:14 (permalink)
    Run Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) in Windows Safe Mode and use the "Clean and shutdown (For installing a new graphics card)" option for removing the AMD driver..Then install your new graphics card and the Standard NVIDIA Graphics Driver.

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/25 11:23:39 (permalink)
    ok, I will look into that one

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/25 12:42:45 (permalink)
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    Run Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) in Windows Safe Mode and use the "Clean and shutdown (For installing a new graphics card)" option for removing the AMD driver..Then install your new graphics card and the Standard NVIDIA Graphics Driver.




    To add to above: you'll want to use DDU's option to disable Windows Updates, otherwise what may happen is, you run DDU, system reboots, and Windows installs a GPU driver via Windows Update which will be a VERY outdated driver.
     
    More info here: https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
     
    Recommended usage
    • The tool can be used in Normal mode but for absolute stability when using DDU, Safemode is always the best.
    • Make a backup or a system restore (but it should normally be pretty safe).
    • It is best to exclude the DDU folder completely from any security software to avoid issues.
    Keep note that NVIDIA/AMD did not have anything to do with this, I do not work at or for NVIDIA/AMD and they should not be held responsible for anything that may go wrong with this application.
    Requirement:
    • Windows Vista SP2 up to Windows 10 May 2019 update 1903 (18362.xx) (anything higher is at your own risk)
    • NVIDIA, AMD, Intel GPUs
    • Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5 or higher
    Recommended usage
    • You MUST disconnect your internet or completely block Windows Update when running DDU until you have re-installed your new drivers.
    • DDU should be used when having a problem uninstalling/installing a driver or when switching GPU brand.
    • DDU should not be used every time you install a new driver unless you know what you are doing.
    • DDU will not work on network drive. Please install in a local drive (C:, D: or else).
    • The tool can be used in Normal mode but for absolute stability when using DDU, Safemode is always the best.
    • If you are using DDU in normal mode, Clean, reboot, clean again, reboot.
    • Make a backup or a system restore (but it should normally be pretty safe).
    • It is best to exclude the DDU folder completely from any security software to avoid issues.
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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/25 12:49:50 (permalink)
    thanks for the info. I asked my uncle who works with the computers and he said that I should just be good to go with removing the old one and plugging the new one in. which is kond of what I am thinking too as most people hear are asking because they are OCing their computers to where one little thing will make it not work. I am not OCing mine so I should be fine. not to mention the info I left out with my old GPU being an ATI (AMD) radeon HD 6770 (see profile pic) from 2012/13 when I got it inside a prebuilt Dell XPS 8300. I will keep what you have said in mind and will come back to it if an issue does come up.
     
    edit: one thing I forgot to mention so its the reason for this edit. I did not have any aftermarket programs to control anything with my computer. I have since installed my new GPU and no problems so far.
    post edited by tdkid1 - 2020/03/25 18:14:53

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/25 18:31:19 (permalink)
     
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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/25 18:43:41 (permalink)
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    Moved to General Hardware.




    not a hardware issue. its not hard to just take the old one out and put the new one in and call it done. I was wondering about a possible software issue with going from AMD to NVidia but the GPU I replaced was an old card from before RGB took off and was from a prebuilt system so no conflicting issues as of right now.

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/27 18:41:09 (permalink)
    From what I gather you've installed a 2070S FTW3 Ultra+. The 100% power limit is 260w and the 130% power limit is 338w.  This is the same as a typical A-chip 2080 Ti, which is a very serious amount of 12VDC power.  You should have a 650W power supply minimum with two entirely separate 8-pin power cables from the PSU to the card.  If you're running off the stock XPS 8300 psu (430w?) with a single daisy chained cable you might be ok-ish at stock 100% power if your CPU and the rest of system doesn't draw much of power, but it's not optimal.
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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/27 18:59:52 (permalink)
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    From what I gather you've installed a 2070S FTW3 Ultra+. The 100% power limit is 260w and the 130% power limit is 338w.  This is the same as a typical A-chip 2080 Ti, which is a very serious amount of 12VDC power.  You should have a 650W power supply minimum with two entirely separate 8-pin power cables from the PSU to the card.  If you're running off the stock XPS 8300 psu (430w?) with a single daisy chained cable you might be ok-ish at stock 100% power if your CPU and the rest of system doesn't draw much of power, but it's not optimal.




    yes and no to what you said. my main issues was that I was reading on these forums and other sites with people having GPU issues with the 2070s like black screen, low frame rates, just shutting off, etc. etc.. so I was worried that would happen to me too. I texted my uncle who works with computers and he told me I will be fine as most of it is plug and play like most things are but I was more worried about a conflicting software issue.
     
    I have gotten the new GPU as I now have my assoc. code in my phrase or comment section. my PSU is a supernova 1000G+ but I am only using 1 VGA (as this PSU doesn't call them PCIe or GPU cables) as I only had the one that came with it. I am going to order a second one soon after all of the BS that is going on right now stops.
     
    the XPS 8300 was a prebuilt system I bought that actually had top of the line stats for components when I bought it in 2012/13 from best buy but like all things it got old and slow so I replaced it and kept the GPU and CPU cooler as the still worked and the cooler was actually bigger than the one that came with the CPU.
     
    I will probably not be able to do all of what you said as I am stuck with a 4-5 year old 1080p 60hz TV as my monitor which works fine for me as I don't play many competitive games. I purposely overbuilt my computer so it will be overpowered today, inline with tech a few years from now and then 8-10 years down the road being obsolete which saves me money in the long run.

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/27 21:07:18 (permalink)
    That PSU came with a pile of GPU power cables.
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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/27 21:29:41 (permalink)
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    That PSU came with a pile of GPU power cables.




    yes but only 1 PSU to GPU (VGA) cable. the link below is the specs for this PSU. it says it comes with more than enough cables  but with the box in front of me right now. it has 2x PSU to molex cables, 2x PSU to SATA cables and 1x PSU to CPU cable left over from my build which had a new motherboard, RAM, hard drive, CPU and 5.25 drive while keeping the old GPU and CPU cooler from the computer I replaced. which you can see the old GPU by looking at my profile pic. ugly MF isn't it. if this PSU came with these cables then I was robbed when I bought it or they were never in the box to begin with.
     
    https://www.evga.com/prod...437b-bfbb-3eef7aeccf91

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/28 08:09:36 (permalink)
    Bummer, there should have been like 6 or 7 of them.  None of them are daisy chained either, so if you currently have a single daisy chained it's not original to the PSU.  If you're only using one power connector on the card, that is REALLY REALLY BAD and you should stop immediately, it will likely damage the connector. Though I kind of doubt it would even run.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/03/28 08:12:31
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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/28 08:25:10 (permalink)
    yes and no. the PSU did come with more cables but those went to things like the CPU, the motherboard, the USB connectors on the case, one to the old GPU, and one to the hard drive and then one to the DVD/CD drive. so it came with more cables but it came with cables for more of a hardcore work station with having an extra cable for another CPU, 2 more SATA cables for HD or SSD storage and then 2 more molex cables for plugging molex connectors like fans and etc..
     
    it is only 1 cable but the ends split into 2 so the GPU does have 2 connectors plugged in so to speak and I am NOT OCing at all, everything is at stock levels until I get that second cable because I don't want to push it.
     
    if I knew how to get photos off my phone then I would show you. my phone doesn't like it and neither does my system. 

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/28 08:56:24 (permalink)
     
    https://www.evga.com/prod...aspx?pn=120-GP-1000-X1
     
    should have 6 - "GPU" --> PCIe power cables --> the (4) 650mm are single ended type --> either 8-pin or 6-pin+2-pin end
     
    PCIe Cable 4x 650mm (m), 2x650mm, 750mm(m)


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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/28 09:01:39 (permalink)
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    https://www.evga.com/prod...aspx?pn=120-GP-1000-X1
     
    should have 6 - "GPU" --> PCIe power cables --> the (4) 650 are single ended
     
    PCIe Cable 4x 650mm (m), 2x650mm, 750mm(m)



    yes that is my PSU but not what we are talking about. it says it comes with 2 VGA or GPU cables but it only has 1 and I still have 1 extra CPU cable, 2 SATA and 2 molex cables in the box. you would think that having 6 VGA ports on the PSU itself, they would have put in at least 4 GPU cables for those that have more than one GPU in their case.

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/28 09:12:33 (permalink)
    If you bought it New ---> contact the seller or EVGA Customer support - You are missing Stock cables
     
    fixed link:  EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G+, 80 Plus Gold 1000W, Fully Modular, FDB Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Power Supply 120-GP-1000-X1
     
    Look at the Specs Tab - 6 cables for PCIe are listed
     
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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/28 09:27:58 (permalink)
    yes I bought it new but from best buy (USA) and it was in Nov. of 2018, so I am sort of out of luck with the "has to be within 30-90 days" BS that they do but so far no issues and its been running 24/7 since Weds. night when I put it in. since i can not post a screenshot here without it being posted somewhere else first. these are the stats right now from PX1
     
    memory:
    clock 0 405MHz
     
    GPU:
    clock 0 300MHz
    voltage 0 650mV
    GPU temp 39*C
     
    target:
    power 100 12-15W 12-16%
    GPU temp 83*C
     
    fan speed (set to auto)
    0 across the board.
     
     

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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/28 10:19:27 (permalink)
    If you still have the receipt hit up EVGA, maybe they will be nice enough to send you out a cable.  Or even just hit up Best Buy, they might have a spare cable laying around they'll hook you up with.
     
    The daisy chained cable isn't optimal but if you're not OC and only running 1080P, it should be OKish as long as you're not constantly pegging full power and use on the GPU.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2020/03/28 10:21:51
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    Re: step by step instructions 2020/03/28 10:27:08 (permalink)
    I might do that but I will have to shut my computer down first to make sure what I said is true because to be honest about it, I don't remember as built this computer brand new in Nov. of 2018 with exception to the GPU and CPU cooler and I haven't done anything with it since then so I will have to open it up and look at the cables since my case does allow the PSU to be fan down in the case, it meads the wording on the cables is upside down too and not able to be seen easily because most people place their tower on the right side of their monitor so its why most companies have the side panel you access everything on the side you see most often. mine is on the left so its hard to access it and will need to shut it down, which I am not going to do right now.

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