ty_ger07

the_Scarlet_one

gsrcrxsi
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3229786

Yes, that was the other thread I mentioned the word contract in.  This is thread 1, and the other thread is thread 2.  In that thread, the user was insinuating that cards were sold to one person, when it was just the stock inside the microcenter.  Notice all of the other brands in the stack?  So, please expand beyond what I already told you I mentioned.
 
To add to the post above, I was at MicroCenter just outside of Philadelphia when that thread was started, and the employees at the microcenter said they ordered a lot more cards than what showed up. Maybe you could contact them yourself and they will divulge the information.

Oof!  You said it one other time?  For shame!
 
This thread is flame bait.  Let it die.

Are you currently seeking to obtain a EVGA RTX 3000 series card?

the_Scarlet_one

kram36
Are you currently seeking to obtain a EVGA RTX 3000 series card?

I am trying to, yes, but not for myself, for my best friend. I have kept all of my places in queue just to get him a card.

That question was meant for ty_ger07.

From my perspective it is flamebait because there is no winner and no loser and is instead just inciting everyone. It pits "good guy EVGA" with the queue system against "bad guy EVGA" who is selling to stores. It's silly. It's small number of cards which are available for purchase either way.
And to imagine that a picture of a small number of cards at a store is enough to create a 2 page thread of people arguing with eachother.... A sign of the times.

This might be one of the most hilarious "DO NOT TELL ME THE FACTS" threads/posts I've seen yet.
 
People out here living in alternate realities instead of facing the fact that supply sucks, it's gotten worse not better, and that stores still get cards because of the fact the eVGA has to provide what was agreed to be provided to said store chains, as others have stated.
 
If you don't like reading or being told facts, the Internet is a bad place for you - though it is filled with people that are clueless, brainwashed, believe conspiracy theories, and are just plain wrong, in some cases, it is also full of simple truths & facts.
 
I read the first few posts and got the "regurgitated" as you put it "DON'T TELL ME THINGS I DON'T WANNA HEAR EVEN IF IT'S THE TRUTH".  I'm outta hur.

gsrcrxsi
Knowing they have cat litter, and knowing how many cat boxes they have, or how much litter goes in each box are two totally different things.

If I know that someone owns a cat, and thus owns cat litter, I can make some safe assumptions about it because, again, many of these things are standard.  They're not likely to keep their cat litter in 1/2lb plastic baggies and they probably don't have a 150gal drum of cat litter.  Their cat litter likely isn't a solid bright blue (although it might have blue flecks).  Their cat litter may differ in composition but it's almost certainly absorbent and stored as dry material.  There's no reason to assume that EVGA has a 60" cube of solid pink cat litter in their apartment that they chip off.  Their cat litter is going to fall within the same general lines as everyone else's cat litter with some minor differences for brand and scent and clay vs fiber but when I say "They own cat litter", that provides a fair amount of logical information on its own.  Likewise, we know that EVGA almost certainly has these agreements and, as such, people familiar with them know with a fair amount of certainty what sort of general parameters we're talking about. 
 
What you're engaging in is logical fallacy based in minutiae; refusing to accept the most likely responses because they can't give you the exact details.  Despite the fact that no one is saying "EVGA has promised 1200 units this week to Retailer X and only received 1250 units, thus only allocating...", you're acting as though they have to provide that level of detail to make general statements.  If someone says that, feel free to ask them evidence.  If someone makes general statements consistent with how the market works ("EVGA has retailer obligations to fulfill and those take precedence..."), stop trying to discredit them by demanding minutiae.  That's nonsense.

actually, what you're engaging in is the logical fallacy. you're extrapolating details that don't exist based on assumptions and not evidence. just because something MIGHT be a cause or contributing factor, doesn't mean that it IS a factor. you don't know the level of precedence that their contracts have. you just assume that they are more important. and even trying to use historical "data" in this circumstance is suspect since the world situation is completely different than anything before, many more variables have changed.
 
the amount of people on these boards that have never heard of or performed any type of real root cause analysis is... not at all surprising lol.
 
if people wouldn't speak in absolutes, you'd seem less like fools. all it takes is a bit of humility and to admit the uncertainty in your statement. "contracts could be a factor..." vs. "contracts are definitely the reason bro!". but people are being people and have latched onto this bandwagon buzzword to try to sound like they know what they're talking about to get those precious internet back pats

gsrcrxsi
actually, what you're engaging in is the logical fallacy. you're extrapolating details that don't exist based on assumptions and not evidence. just because something MIGHT be a cause or contributing factor, doesn't mean that it IS a factor. you don't know the level of precedence that their contracts have. you just assume that they are more important. and even trying to use historical "data" in this circumstance is suspect since the world situation is completely different than anything before, many more variables have changed.
 
the amount of people on these boards that have never heard of or performed any type of real root cause analysis is... not at all surprising lol.
 
if people wouldn't speak in absolutes, you'd seem less like fools. all it takes is a bit of humility and to admit the uncertainty in your statement. "contracts could be a factor..." vs. "contracts are definitely the reason bro!". but people are being people and have latched onto this bandwagon buzzword to try to sound like they know what they're talking about to get those precious internet back pats

I do want to note, you completely contradict yourself here by linking a post that actually says, “EVGA has contracts” which is factual and does not contain any sort of assumption of how it affects stock.

So, what do you want? Just to complain?

Assumptions are like.. They're everywhere. Assuming anything based on loose theory or half knowledge is misinformation. If I cannot answer a question without knowing the exact answer, i say "i dont know, but here is what I do know", "here is my opinion". "Here is what I saw and here is the source". I believe forums, social media, etc, would be a better place if more of these types of assumptive people made posts and comments in a manner where they acted like they did not know everything. It is toxic otherwise.

skyline090
Assumptions are like a$$holes. They're everywhere. Assuming anything based on loose theory or half knowledge is misinformation. If I cannot answer a question without knowing the exact answer, i say "i dont know, but here is what I do know", "here is my opinion". "Here is what I saw and here is the source". I believe forums, social media, etc, would be a better place if people made posts and comments in a manner where they acted like they did not know everything. It is toxic otherwise.

this guy gets it

This thread: Hey everybody! EVGA is good. EVGA is bad. Pick your side. Fight!

Please let this thread die.