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2024/08/24 20:26:41
cotter32
As you all know Supermicro makes industrial grade server computers,
but they also throw out a few gaming motherboards from time to time , so I bought one .
Got a C9 Z790-CGW .  The same board that holds the number six spot on HWBOT's
world record CPU frequency leader board @ 8725.49 MHz ( on liquid nitrogen w/13900K ) .
I just have an EKWB liquid cooler, but hey, I'll see what I can do with it :)
 
Below is the GAMDIAS case, and Supermicro Z790 mainboard .

 
Below is the Supermicro C9Z790-CGW in the GAMDIAS case

 
This is an inexpensive case made of steel and plastic ( I'm not made out of money, after-all ) .
I chose it because it's lightweight, and is friendly to horizontal builds like I like .  It can also be used upright .
 
Below is another view of the installed board .

 
This board has an LED debug code display, and beep speaker built in .  I like those, and haven't had them since my last
EVGA motherboard .  The Z370 Classified K that I'm using right now .  Still the fastest booting computer that I have,
so it gets the most internet and computer chores work .  Never lets me down .
 
Next below are the incredibly expensive EKWB radiator, and cold plate/pump/reservoir combo unit for intel socket 1700 motherboards .
 
 
It's an EK 420 radiator, and EK Quantum VelocitySquared pump unit .  Costly, but handy to make your own AIO, and using the EKWB fittings
and tubing ( with just a tiny, tiny film of vaseline on the outside ends of the fitting barbs ) it is easy to have a 100% leak free water cooler on the first try .
I hate leaks, and don't want to deal with them, so I pay more money .  Oh, the pump is lighted too, if you like that, and is high volume and very quiet .
 
Below is the radiator and pump installed with one of the Noctua redux 140mm fans on it .  The redux fans are cheaper, with less accessories, but still whisper silent .

 
Below is another shot of the pump unit showing a better view of the layer cake design .

 
It is PWM controlled, and PCIe powered .  The construction is nickel plated bronze, and acrylic plastic .  Build quality is excellent .  The back plate is excellent .
If you ever fill one, note that you have to tilt the computer to a vertical position to get the pump to prime .  After that, it works very well .
 
That's all for now, the thing is already built and running, but I must stop posting, and eat dinner and go to bed early, so I can work OT tomorrow
to pay for all this stuff !
 
Too The Moon, on a Super-rocket !
 
 
2024/08/25 04:07:35
rjohnson11
This is looking great. I love that color. 
2024/08/25 17:12:55
cotter32
rjohnson11
This is looking great. I love that color. 


Thanks, Mr. Johnson .  I thought I would go for a little color this time, always liked red and black together .
You might approve of a feature of this case .  It has mounts for 10 fans !
 
Too the Moon !
 
2024/08/25 18:47:01
cotter32
Continuing .  Backing up a little bit, I'm using Crucial T500, 2 TB NVMe SSD for my main drive .  It's Gen4 .  The board only supports gen4 SSD,
so I got a very highly rated, cool running one .  The speed difference between gen4 and 5 SSD will not be detectable by a human being .
 
Below is Crucial T500 gum stick .

 
This board is also not known for supporting extreme high performance RAM ( the qualified RAM list is just depressing, yuk, not for me ),
so I got some reasonably priced, high compatibility RAM for now .  It works really well, and runs at XMP 6000 with loose timings .
I may get some snappier sticks later depending on how testing goes ... and what sales can be had :)
 
Below are two Patriot Viper Gaming Elite 5 DDR5 RAM modules installed .  48 GB total .

 
I ended up installing eight fans .  Three 120mm to feed the graphics card area, and Five 140mm fans; 3 for radiator, one for VRM and RAM area ( side ),
and one exhaust .  They are all Noctua PWM redux fans .  Very quiet, lots of air .  Six of them run on PCIe power, more on that later .
I cut down the right side fan bracket to hold just one fan so as to allow the water tubing to take nice gentle bends .  The case can hold ten fans .
 
Below are three GPU area fans .  The four spots on the corners are where the feet go if you use the case in the upright position .

 
Below are the 140mm fans installed .

 
The brains of this outfit is the intel 14900KS CPU .  Known to be an effective space heater, it is the reason for the heavy duty water cooler .
So far it purrs like a kitten, but I have not yet hit it with cinebench .  When I do, I will use the new R24 version .  It's got a new picture .
 
Below is the mighty 14900KS in its natural environment :)

 
The brawn is none other than the EVGA 1000W FTW ATX 3.0, PCIe 5.0 power supply .  You guys knew I would have to work an EVGA product
into the assembly somewhere .  I still love EVGA, and wish they would make some graphics cards n' stuff again .
 
Below is the EVGA 1000 FTW .  Powerful and compact .

 
Don't know why everything turned gray in the picture .  It's really all black .  Oh, well, digital camera .  So, after all that it started right up, no problems .
There was more work to be done, but I could not wait to see some fire !
 
Below is the first startup,. and a glimpse of the interesting Supermicro BIOS .

 
Below is the startup splash sceen .  Interestingly, the user has the opportunity to go into an "EFI shell" on this screen by entering the boot menu .
It's also a boot menu, of course .

 
 
OK, I'll post some more stuff later, right now I need to feed !
 
2024/08/25 19:59:06
Cool GTX
Nice rig
2024/08/26 00:20:05
rjohnson11
This build is looking great. Looking forward to final build pictures. 
2024/08/26 15:46:36
Hoggle
Looks good
2024/08/26 17:45:52
cotter32
With the machine start up successfully out of the way, the wiring needed to be restrained a bit .  It's all on the bottom .
I used Noctua fan speed controls/PCIe power taps to give power and PWM control from the mother board to the radiator,
and GPU area fans, three each, two controllers .  One controller gives board power, and generates PWM signal to
the right side VRM/RAM area fan, as the board header is power only .
 
Below is a Noctua controller and accessory cables .

 
Below is a shot of the bottom wiring restrained by case straps, and tie wraps .  The two controllers on top of the cables
use board PWM signal to control the fans, and PCIe power to power them .  The controller on the right uses board power,
and generates its own PWM signal to control one fan .  It protrudes up above the main board tray thru a tray cut out
so that the user can adjust fan speed with the knob .  It is supported from the bottom by an old coffee stir stick .
I had to incorporate a little garbage in my build, as usual :)

 
After that I put the case back together .  Here's what the left side looks like .

 
The whole thing sort of looks like a toaster oven, or large bread box when the smoked glass panels are on it .
Below is the right side view .

 
Below is the front view .

 
Below is the final inside with the glass panels off .  Noctua controller is on right side under hoses .

 
Since then the BIOS was updated, and Win11 installed .  Updating the Supermicro BIOS is a little intimidating,
especially if a person is not familiar with DOS-like command line stuff, but it had to be done to ensure maximum
CPU gen 14 compatibility .  It is done thru the "EFI shell" that I mentioned earlier .
Well, that's all for now .  I will be waiting for a gen 5 graphics card, fine tuning, testing, and loading software .
I hope you all were entertained, and, "make it a great day", to all !
 
P.S.  The integrated graphics works great .
 
Too The Moon !
 
 
2024/09/14 17:26:52
cotter32
Well, then it was time to thermal stability test the toaster oven . I ended up using Cinebench R23 because the system reqs. for
R24 include a graphics card . I don't have one yet . Also, with R23 I can compare the 14900KS with the 14900K in my other
Gigabyte computer .
I installed Win11 Pro offline, with no internet . For anyone interested I used the first of these methods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4mhTUx_7Ys
It worked great, but since then I have connected it to microsoft . The tests were done after connection, but internet cable, and RCA sound disconnected .
Also, with microsoft defender on, since I couldn't figure out how to turn it off :) And running HWiNFO64 concurrently .
I tried to post this stuff last night, but lost it all while doing a spelling edit, so now I'll try posting it again bit by bit .
XMP1 6000 42 42 42 was used for the final two tests, default 4400 for the first test . This machine likes the 6000 RAM speed with loose timings .
It does not like tighter timings, even at 5600 MGhz . Intel specifies memory support up to 5600 .
The Supermicro BIOS has three canned setups called Quiet mode, Default mode, and Performance mode .
Below, Quiet mode first, then Performance mode . The Brown and Orange bars on left .

 
Quiet mode scores 30819, temps. were below 70C, and Performance mode scores 37112 at 71C .
Maximum CPU Package power is 252 watts .
 
2024/09/14 17:56:27
cotter32
The above results were similar to the 14900K in the Gigabyte machine .  The Supermicro BIOS is complicated, and meant
for very experienced personnel .  The board even has jumpers to "change how it operates", but the manual does not elaborate .
So, I used a simple overclocking procedure for the Supermicro Z490 board from TweakTown videos .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MTB7NwxmAs
The Z490 BIOS GUI is nearly the same .  Below are the results "locked", which is not really locked, to 5.7 GHz .

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Score is now 41538, temp. 102C, but no thermal throttling .  Power consumption is up to 413 watts max.
Intel max. operating temp. is 100C, so this was not acceptable to me .
 

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