Hey all, I was wondering if anyone would have any recommended manual settings to get the 14900k to run at stock speeds? I've been reading the posts saying you need to manually set things as official bios support hasn't come out yet. My 14900k and Z790 Classy came in, excited to get it up and running.

I have no info on this query so I suggest you contact EVGA directly. 

mattman657
Hey all, I was wondering if anyone would have any recommended manual settings to get the 14900k to run at stock speeds? I've been reading the posts saying you need to manually set things as official bios support hasn't come out yet. My 14900k and Z790 Classy came in, excited to get it up and running.

I'm in the same boat.. I have Z790 Classy and 14900K still in packaging.. waiting for EVGA to give us some support on this motherboard since they haven't officially announced EOS (End Of Support) or EOL (End Of Life) for this board. They did however stop selling Z790 series online without any End Of Sales announcement.

I can't remember EVGA ever making a EOL or EOS announcement.  You get what they give you, on their schedule.  And if you never get what you are expecting, what they tease, all that happens is that people grumble a bit until time passes.

Yea, the question wasn't really about EOL or EOS announcements. It was more about recommended manual bios settings to get the 14900k to run at stock speeds on the Z790 Classy between now and when an official bios comes out... IF an official bios comes out.

ty_ger07
I can't remember EVGA ever making a EOL or EOS announcement.  You get what they give you, on their schedule.  And if you never get what you are expecting, what they tease, all that happens is that people grumble a bit until time passes.

They kinda did it when they said they are no longer making any NVIDIA cards, but they released that info to media not like official announcement on website.
@mattman657 There are no settings so far that have been released that I know of.. I suggest you call EVGA and ask their support via phone since they don't post any info on forum regarding motherboards anymore.

ilukeberry

ty_ger07
I can't remember EVGA ever making a EOL or EOS announcement.  You get what they give you, on their schedule.  And if you never get what you are expecting, what they tease, all that happens is that people grumble a bit until time passes.

They kinda did it when they said they are no longer making any NVIDIA cards, but they released that info to media not like official announcement on website.
@mattman657 There are no settings so far that have been released that I know of.. I suggest you call EVGA and ask their support via phone since they don't post any info on forum regarding motherboards anymore.

Again, I'm not really referring to any official recommendations from EVGA. I'm more wondering if anyone within the community had any ideas/recommendations, based on settings used on the 13900K/13900KS, that may be a good starting point to get the 14900K up and running. I'm not expecting anything from EVGA right now. Core multiplier and vCore for P-Cores and E-Cores, LLC/Vdroop, etc. 

Sure. Based on how I run my 13900k and what the 14900k specifications are, I would try this to get it running stock clocks correctly:
CPU Multiplier Control: Manual - RatioLimit
CPU Multiplier Setting: 60
1 Core Ratio Limit: 60
2 Core Ratio Limit: 60
3 Core Ratio Limit: 56
4 Core Ratio Limit: 56
5 Core Ratio Limit: 56
6 Core Ratio Limit: 56
7 Core Ratio Limit: 56
8 Core Ratio Limit: 56
Ring Ratio: Auto
(I have AVX2 Ratio offset at 3 and AVX512 Ratio Offset at 0...I think those are default)
 
Atom Ratio Control:
Atom Multiplier Control: Manual - RatioLimit
Atom Multiplier Setting: 44 (all ratios 44, voltage auto)
 
You can start here. Based on how these boards run, I would set FLL Override to Mode 1, Vcore Vdroop to -75% - Min Droop, and VCore PWM to 600.
 
As for voltage, you have a few options. You can start with VCore on auto. Do some temperature testing. See where things shake out. If it is running a bit hot, you can either go into the V/F Control menu and start putting negative offsets in for the 5400 and 5700 points. I'd start with -25, test stability and performance, work towards -40. You'll want to test single core and multi-core when doing stability tests with that. You can also leave the V/F Control points alone and change the main VCore setting to Override. Then try to lock in a specific voltage. You'd have to do some trial and error there to check stability. 
 
If you want to go beyond the "stock" clocks, I am betting you can run your e-cores up to 46x and you can almost definitely boost your 3-6 core ratios up to 58x. If you have good cooling, you may also be able to do 58x all the way up to 8 cores and 60x on more than 2. The benefit beyond 56 on all-core will likely only be seen in benchmarks. It's the lower threaded boosts to 6GHz that help the most with gaming. If it were me, I'd try to get 1-4 to boost to 60x, then do 59, 58, 57, 56 from 5-8 cores and see how performance and heat are with my e-cores at 45x or 46x. Override voltage control is the best way to minimize power draw while doing all-core overclocking, but it can be a bit limiting in your ability to boost individual cores higher. So if you were looking for 61x or even trying 62x 1-2 cores, it would be hard to do that with an override under-volt that minimizes all-core power. If you don't care about those individual boosts, it's a great way to drop temps while keeping an all-core overclock.

B0baganoosh
Sure. Based on how I run my 13900k and what the 14900k specifications are, I would try this to get it running stock clocks correctly:
CPU Multiplier Control: Manual - RatioLimit
CPU Multiplier Setting: 60
1 Core Ratio Limit: 60
2 Core Ratio Limit: 60
3 Core Ratio Limit: 56
4 Core Ratio Limit: 56
5 Core Ratio Limit: 56
6 Core Ratio Limit: 56
7 Core Ratio Limit: 56
8 Core Ratio Limit: 56
Ring Ratio: Auto
(I have AVX2 Ratio offset at 3 and AVX512 Ratio Offset at 0...I think those are default)
 
Atom Ratio Control:
Atom Multiplier Control: Manual - RatioLimit
Atom Multiplier Setting: 44 (all ratios 44, voltage auto)
 
You can start here. Based on how these boards run, I would set FLL Override to Mode 1, Vcore Vdroop to -75% - Min Droop, and VCore PWM to 600.
 
As for voltage, you have a few options. You can start with VCore on auto. Do some temperature testing. See where things shake out. If it is running a bit hot, you can either go into the V/F Control menu and start putting negative offsets in for the 5400 and 5700 points. I'd start with -25, test stability and performance, work towards -40. You'll want to test single core and multi-core when doing stability tests with that. You can also leave the V/F Control points alone and change the main VCore setting to Override. Then try to lock in a specific voltage. You'd have to do some trial and error there to check stability. 
 
If you want to go beyond the "stock" clocks, I am betting you can run your e-cores up to 46x and you can almost definitely boost your 3-6 core ratios up to 58x. If you have good cooling, you may also be able to do 58x all the way up to 8 cores and 60x on more than 2. The benefit beyond 56 on all-core will likely only be seen in benchmarks. It's the lower threaded boosts to 6GHz that help the most with gaming. If it were me, I'd try to get 1-4 to boost to 60x, then do 59, 58, 57, 56 from 5-8 cores and see how performance and heat are with my e-cores at 45x or 46x. Override voltage control is the best way to minimize power draw while doing all-core overclocking, but it can be a bit limiting in your ability to boost individual cores higher. So if you were looking for 61x or even trying 62x 1-2 cores, it would be hard to do that with an override under-volt that minimizes all-core power. If you don't care about those individual boosts, it's a great way to drop temps while keeping an all-core overclock.

This is incredibly helpful. Thank you so much!
 
Cooling wise I'm in good shape so I definitely want to try your recommendations on going the extra mile. Three 60mm thick Alphacool radiators, one 480mm and two 360mm. I'm going to rearrange my loop tubing route a bit to be able to fit a slim 120mm in the rear slot too when I do my tear down.
 
Thank you again, this is exactly what I was looking for! I'm sure some other folks are in the same boat as me and will find this super helpful.

Thank you for that info @B0baganoosh definitely will play around with those numbers on my Z790 Dark KP with 14900K - Maybe (just a suggestion) we could also get Vince KINGPIN to mention his stock settings and above average settings for 14900K? I know you had access to his FB posts and if he was willing to share might be very helpful as a comparison what his recommended settings are as well