2023/10/18 13:56:35
ironage
EVGA just reminds me of the black knight ...
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs
2023/10/18 14:23:12
nekrosoft13
How much longer before EVGA completly closes their doors?
 
don't get me wrong, EVGA was my favorite video card manufacture, for more than a decade I was only buying EVGA video cards, but I don't see any future ahead of them.
2023/10/18 15:23:41
ilukeberry
Ravenmaster
ty_ger07
EVGA CS said to me:
The BIOS to support the Raptor Lakes has been requested. Unfortunately we do not have an ETA at this time.

Regards,
EVGA



Sounds like the original BIOS team has already left the company and now they're trying to hire some temps to do one last update


Funny enough EVGATech_ChrisB said on 31th of August that they are "already working on it", idk who is lying now.
2023/10/18 15:26:47
ilukeberry
nekrosoft13
How much longer before EVGA completly closes their doors?
 
don't get me wrong, EVGA was my favorite video card manufacture, for more than a decade I was only buying EVGA video cards, but I don't see any future ahead of them.




Probably soon... their support became a joke.
2023/10/18 23:04:39
Yjagor
Dear friends, has anyone tried if the 14900k on the Z790 DK runs on the actual released BIOS?
After reading everything written above, I too feel the urge to say goodbye to EVGA. 
2023/10/19 03:42:36
Nereus
 
I'm guessing that the likelihood of a BIOS update is similar to the likelihood of the 'renovations' to ModsRigs being completed.
 
Is there much point 'upgrading' from 13900k to 14900k anyway? Cache and power limits are the same, P-core and E-core count is the same, just the spec clocks are a little higher on the newer CPU, which is relatively easy to achieve with a small manual OC on the 13900K, depending on the individual chip. Other than that, on paper they're almost identical CPU's. Some performance improvements at spec, as you can see in this review, but otherwise.. meh. 
 
Seems the biggest advantage in EVGA putting out an updated BIOS would be resale value for the motherboard. :)
 
2023/10/19 04:15:19
ilukeberry
Again: It doesn't matter if Intel line of 14th Gen is worse, equal or better performer.
 
The thing is that we paid big money for this boards and we expect proper support for the product. There was no EOS (End Of Support/Sale), EOL (End Of Life) announcement for this products from EVGA. So it's reasonably to expect from them they will support the product and provide updates for BIOS that they still SELL!
2023/10/19 04:30:39
Nereus
ilukeberry
Again: It doesn't matter if Intel line of 14th Gen is worse, equal or better performer.
 
The thing is that we paid big money for this boards and we expect proper support for the product. There was no EOS (End Of Support/Sale), EOL (End Of Life) announcement for this products from EVGA. So it's reasonably to expect from them they will support the product and provide updates for BIOS that they still SELL!

Agree on that point - I have the Z790 Dark Kingpin.
 
My question about whether it was worth upgrading from 13900 to 14900 was intended as a side point, not whether the BIOS update should or shouldn't happen. :)   Also there may well be more than a few people who purchased the EVGA Z790 more recently and were waiting on the 14900K to come out before using the board.
 
2023/10/19 04:35:47
nlodeserto
ilukeberry
Again: It doesn't matter if Intel line of 14th Gen is worse, equal or better performer.
 
The thing is that we paid big money for this boards and we expect proper support for the product. There was no EOS (End Of Support/Sale), EOL (End Of Life) announcement for this products from EVGA. So it's reasonably to expect from them they will support the product and provide updates for BIOS that they still SELL!


I totally agree, and as I've pointed out several times SW/FW support was already extremely lacking well before this issue.
Nereus
I'm guessing that the likelihood of a BIOS update is similar to the likelihood of the 'renovations' to ModsRigs being completed.
...

I didn't pay €1042 for ModRigs, but I did for the Z790 Dark KP, and I expect a minimum of support.
 
And for the validity or otherwise of RaptorLake-Refresh, again, this is not the question.
2023/10/19 04:42:49
Nereus
nlodeserto
ilukeberry
Again: It doesn't matter if Intel line of 14th Gen is worse, equal or better performer.
 
The thing is that we paid big money for this boards and we expect proper support for the product. There was no EOS (End Of Support/Sale), EOL (End Of Life) announcement for this products from EVGA. So it's reasonably to expect from them they will support the product and provide updates for BIOS that they still SELL!

I totally agree, and as I've pointed out several times SW/FW support was already extremely lacking well before this issue.
Nereus
I'm guessing that the likelihood of a BIOS update is similar to the likelihood of the 'renovations' to ModsRigs being completed.
...

I didn't pay €1042 for ModRigs, but I did for the Z790 Dark KP, and I expect a minimum of support.
 
And for the validity or otherwise of RaptorLake-Refresh, again, this is not the question.

Yeah I agree, I already clarified that. :)
"My question about whether it was worth upgrading from 13900 to 14900 was intended as a side point, not whether the BIOS update should or shouldn't happen. :)   Also there may well be more than a few people who purchased the EVGA Z790 more recently and were waiting on the 14900K to come out before using the board."
 
 

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