2023/11/12 18:40:07
gavinheng
ty_ger07
 
When you say it "works", not properly, right?  By default, the CPU has complex boost properties which are essentially built-in overclocking.  Those don't work properly either, right?  So, it behaves worse that it should, right?



thanks for your reply, I was referring more towards stability, so if it doesn't boost like what it should but is still able to function like a normal CPU with some minor compromise of performance due to the lack of support for all the newest boost features it should be ok temporary until evga officially releases the Bios (definitely not ideal tho)
2023/11/12 18:44:28
redarman
gavinheng
ty_ger07
 
When you say it "works", not properly, right?  By default, the CPU has complex boost properties which are essentially built-in overclocking.  Those don't work properly either, right?  So, it behaves worse that it should, right?



thanks for your reply, I was referring more towards stability, so if it doesn't boost like what it should but is still able to function like a normal CPU with some minor compromise of performance due to the lack of support for all the newest boost features it should be ok temporary until evga officially releases the Bios (definitely not ideal tho)


I have my 14900k in my z690 dark and it functions just as my 13900k did.
2023/11/12 19:19:05
Talon2020
My 14900K in my Z690 Dark boosts properly to 5.7Ghz all cores and 6Ghz 2 cores just as it should. The problem is that the default voltage/power is a bit higher than what it runs in other boards. And I can't undervolt/tune the chip down as low as my other Z790 Apex. But overall it runs fine, and I have not had any stability issues to speak of. 
 
Now that I patched in APO support, all I'm really missing is the updated Microcode and ME to ensure it's running 100% proper. Hopefully EVGA eventually provides that. 
2023/11/13 02:24:57
gavinheng
Talon2020
My 14900K in my Z690 Dark boosts properly to 5.7Ghz all cores and 6Ghz 2 cores just as it should. The problem is that the default voltage/power is a bit higher than what it runs in other boards. And I can't undervolt/tune the chip down as low as my other Z790 Apex. But overall it runs fine, and I have not had any stability issues to speak of.
Now that I patched in APO support, all I'm really missing is the updated Microcode and ME to ensure it's running 100% proper. Hopefully EVGA eventually provides that. 



Awesome, thank you! this is great to hear, if that's the case I can live with this for the time being until and when Evga comes up with the official bios support for 14th Gen
2023/11/13 02:56:35
rjohnson11
As I have mentioned previously EVGA is aware of this needed update, but no ETA is yet known. 
2023/11/13 10:33:03
gungstar
Talon2020
 I think it's the old Intel ME that is the hang up here. I know that newer BIOS require newer Intel ME firmware, so we might just need to flash the updated Intel ME first in order to get it to POST. At least on Asus boards it will update the Intel ME when you do a newer BIOS update if required, EVGA doesn't update the ME with their BIOS updates. I was thinking doing the Intel ME update last night but got busy with other stuff. 
 
I may need to go back and take a look tonight to see which microcode the BIOS attempt to load as default. Maybe it always attempts to load the newest for the CPUsignature B0671 and without the supported ME were hitting a show stopper. 


looks like this ME version is compatible - 16.1.30.2264

2023/11/13 11:39:39
Talon2020
gungstar
Talon2020
 I think it's the old Intel ME that is the hang up here. I know that newer BIOS require newer Intel ME firmware, so we might just need to flash the updated Intel ME first in order to get it to POST. At least on Asus boards it will update the Intel ME when you do a newer BIOS update if required, EVGA doesn't update the ME with their BIOS updates. I was thinking doing the Intel ME update last night but got busy with other stuff. 
 
I may need to go back and take a look tonight to see which microcode the BIOS attempt to load as default. Maybe it always attempts to load the newest for the CPUsignature B0671 and without the supported ME were hitting a show stopper. 


looks like this ME version is compatible - 16.1.30.2264
 




Yea, I've personally decided to wait on updating the Intel ME until EVGA updates it on their own or the BIOS. Looking at the different BIOS switches it appears that Intel ME firmware does not change based on the BIOS switch. So it's stored in a different chip? I didn't know that, I always thought it was apart of the BIOS chip itself but apparently not. And given you can't downgrade Intel ME firmware, I don't want to be stuck with a non-reversible issue. 
2023/11/15 13:37:31
cdc-951

Testing the 14900K in my dark I can confirm that auto settings work and your PC will boot on the 2.13 firmware, but overclocking is a stability... nightmare it will not work if you try, you cannot OVERCLOCK AT ALL. I mean at ALL!!!!! No cache, no cores, it screws with the voltage time tables I think causing stability issues... (you can mess with ram just fine) Just running the core at stock at ram at 6800 Mhz with tight timings Hynix Mdie. Stock 14900K can confirm works, but EVGA needs to hurry with this firmware update and at lease release a beta for it and then we can help their software engineers with diagnosing here on the forums if there is an issue 


Leaving this here for those who are curious 
2023/11/17 11:08:31
Ravenmaster
cdc-951

Testing the 14900K in my dark I can confirm that auto settings work and your PC will boot on the 2.13 firmware, but overclocking is a stability... nightmare it will not work if you try, you cannot OVERCLOCK AT ALL. I mean at ALL!!!!! No cache, no cores, it screws with the voltage time tables I think causing stability issues... (you can mess with ram just fine) Just running the core at stock at ram at 6800 Mhz with tight timings Hynix Mdie. Stock 14900K can confirm works, but EVGA needs to hurry with this firmware update and at lease release a beta for it and then we can help their software engineers with diagnosing here on the forums if there is an issue 


Leaving this here for those who are curious 


I'm pretty sure all their BIOS team members have already left the company. I doubt we'll get another BIOS update now.
2023/11/21 11:11:46
cdc-951
...... EVGA......... Please 

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